Apartment for sale with 4 bedrooms - Spain (page 2)

At the heart of the new and expanding district of Marbella West is a visionary residential proposal that will mark a before and after in the way people live on the Costa del Sol. This exclusive complex of 101 homes offers a modern and carefully planned environment, where urban design, natural spaces and first class services are integrated to create a new standard of quality of life. Surrounded by green areas, international schools, luxury hotels and only minutes away from Puerto Banús and the beaches, this project represents a unique opportunity for investment and wellbeing.OUTDOOR AREASThe exterior design features elegant, clean-lined architecture, with low-rise buildings that respect the surroundings and ensure unobstructed views and abundant natural light. The ground floor homes have private gardens and beach-style swimming pools, while the penthouses offer spectacular panoramic terraces with private pools, perfect for enjoying the sunny weather and sunsets. Each unit has spacious terraces that act as a natural extension of the home, inviting you to experience the outdoors in total comfort and privacy.INDOOR AREASFrom functional studios to four-bedroom flats, all homes feature open-plan layouts, generous spaces and high-end finishes. The interior design prioritises light, functionality and a contemporary aesthetic that conveys calm and sophistication. The spaces are designed to suit different lifestyles, combining comfort, energy efficiency and versatility. Large windows, integrated kitchens and a careful selection of materials guarantee a modern, welcoming and practical residential experience.COMMON AREASThis exclusive complex redefines the concept of community with a range of amenities that act as an extension of the home. Facilities include a beach-style swimming pool surrounded by Mediterranean gardens, rooftop infinity pool, indoor pool, full gym, spa with sauna, locker rooms, coworking spaces and a social club. It also offers 24-hour security, reception, concierge service, underground parking with electric vehicle chargers and private storage rooms. All in a perfectly connected environment, with quick access to the A-7 and Malaga airport, without traffic lights, and just a few steps away from the beaches and the shopping area of Nueva Alcántara. Want to know more?

Nestled in a privileged natural environment between Chipiona and Rota, this new residential development offers a unique lifestyle on the northwest coast of Cadiz. Just 900 metres from the Playa de las Tres Piedras beach, this complex of multi-family homes is an unbeatable opportunity for those seeking tranquillity, quality of life and proximity to the sea, surrounded by natural landscapes and with excellent road connections.OUTDOOR AREASSpread over five elegant buildings, the homes - from 2 to 4 bedrooms - stand out for their contemporary design, clean lines and careful integration into the landscape. The layout of the blocks guarantees spaciousness, light and privacy, while the materials used ensure sustainability and efficiency. The project has a B energy rating, aerothermal systems, charging points for electric vehicles and the prestigious BREEAM® certification, endorsing its commitment to the environment.INDOOR AREASEach home has been designed to offer comfort, spaciousness and a high standard of finish. The interior spaces flow naturally thanks to functional layouts and large windows that let in natural light and connect with pleasant terraces. The quality of the materials and the efficiency of the installations provide wellbeing and energy savings, ensuring a superior residential experience all year round.COMMON AREASThe residential complex has large garden areas, three swimming pools for adults and children, paddle tennis courts, children's playground, social club, mini golf course and a security checkpoint. All this framed in a well-kept urban space, with wide streets, green areas, bicycle lanes and surveillance, ideal for family life both in summer and all year round. Just a few steps away from one of the best white sandy beaches in Spain, this development offers a unique environment where nature, sport, gastronomy and wellbeing come together in one of the most desirable areas of the Cadiz coast. Want to know more?

A stunning high-end luxury 3/4 bedroom, 4 bathroom first floor apartment situated in a prestige community on the front line of the Mediterranean sea between Estepona ands Marbella. This development has been conceived to be the best in its class and will delight even the most particular buyer. Beautifully maintained gardens and a stunning swimming pool make the most of the views.The apartment features the highest standards of fixtures and fittings throughout and is designed to give the ambience of a private villa whilst having the convenience and ease of maintenance of an apartment. The rooms are both elegant and spacious and include a hallway with guest w.c. off leading through to a wonderful open plan living area giving sitting and dining space and leading on to a wonderful terrace which capitalises on the sea view. The fitted kitchen includes Miele appliances.The master bedroom suite includes a walk in wardrobe and leads directly out to the terrace and there is an en-suite bathroom with state of the art fittings. There are two further guest bedroom suites with wardrobes and luxury bathrooms.A private lift will take you down to a multi-function area which gives you the option of a 4th bedroom and could also include a gym, media centre or office to suit your requirements. From here there is direct access to the garage where 3 parking spaces are included in the sale.How and cold air conditioning, under floor heating and electric blinds are fitted. The is also a smart home or domotics system, included.The photos show an adjoining apartment which has been furnished Want to know more?

This is a brilliant family apartment in a superb community situated directly opposite the beach at San Pedro de Alcantara. From here there is a wide choice of chiringuitos, bars and restaurants within a short walk in addition to San Pedro Town with all its facilities. By car Marbella, Puerto Banus and Estepona are all within easy reach.Las Aldefas is a landmark gated community situated on the San Pedro Paseo Maritimo and in addition to 24-hour security it offers beautifully maintained gardens together with large swimming pools for the use of the residents.The apartment has been updated to include a large open plan living room including dining and sitting areas with a feature fireplace and an open plan kitchen with island unit / breakfast bar and a range of integrated appliances. From the living room there is direct access to a large, south facing, covered terrace and to the gardens beyond. There is also a laundry room.There are four bedrooms together with three bathrooms including the master suite which has a walk-in dressing room and an ensuite bathroom.Hot and cold air conditioning is installed together with double glazing.There is a garage parking space in the underground garage together with a storeroom and lift access to the apartment level. Want to know more?

This fabulous 4 bedroom & 3-bathroom duplex penthouse has been fully refurbished and now features an open concept contemporary design with a luxury kitchen high-quality electric appliances. It is rare to find properties of this quality and size on the front line of the beach in this area and it is therefore a rare opportunity on the local market. The apartment is located in “Bahía del Velerín” which is a luxurious first beach line community at one of the finest beaches between Marbella and Estepona. It is in walking distance to several good restaurants as well as the new Laguna Village and has direct access to the newly built coastal path and the sea. The community has a fantastic pool area with a snack bar, tropical gardens and 24 hour security. The property is sold fully firnished and all rooms have been carefully furnished by professional interior designers and feature many luxurious details such as tailormade wardrobes, walk- in showers, a freestanding bathtub, a Bang & Olufsen sound system or a modern fireplace. The impressive roof terrace offers you unobstructed sea views over the Mediterranean and is equipped with a dining, wellness and chill out area. This stunning property comes with an underground parking and a storage room. Want to know more?

Set in the heart of Marbella's Ricardo Soriano district, this meticulously renovated home offers unparalleled comfort and style. Newly upgraded plumbing and electrical systems ensure both efficiency and safety throughout the property. With four bedrooms, three bathrooms, a laundry room, and an office, this home provides a spacious and practical layout. Natural light floods through two enclosed terraces, ideal for unwinding or hosting guests. The open concept kitchen is well appointed with integrated appliances and there is also a utility room.The addition of an Airzone hot and cold air conditioning system ensures customizable climate control in every room, while superior acoustic insulation guarantees peace and privacy. There is a lift for easy access.Located in a well-maintained community, residents also benefit from access to a tennis court. Included in the sale are a garage and storage room, providing added convenience and space. With a total area of 211m², plus a 20m² terrace, this property offers ample room to live and entertain comfortably.Situated amidst a wealth of amenities and leisure activities, this home presents a rare investment opportunity. Don't let this chance slip away to own your own piece of paradise in this prime location. Want to know more?

This is a spacious, recently built apartment with four bedrooms and three bathrooms, situated in the gated community of Alborada Homes at La Quinta in Benahavís. This is a brilliant location for enjoying all that the Costa del Sol has to offer, with La Quinta Golf on the doorstep, together with the shops and amenities of Monte Halcones and La Heredia close at hand. There is easy access by car to the golf courses of Nueva Andalucía’s Golf Valley and down to the coast at Puerto Banús, Marbella, and San Pedro de Alcántara.Alborada Homes is a gated community with 24-hour security, landscaped gardens, and views towards the coast. Residents also have the use of a fully equipped gymnasium, and there is underground parking. The apartment comes with two parking spaces and a storeroom, with lift access up to the apartment floor.The home features a bright and spacious open-plan living room, giving sitting and dining areas with glazed doors opening out to the southwest-facing terrace, which provides further space for relaxing and dining alfresco. There is an open-concept kitchen with an island unit and a full range of integrated appliances, and there is also a separate utility room.There are four bedrooms in total. The main bedroom has fitted wardrobes and an en-suite bathroom. The three family bedrooms have wardrobes and share two well-appointed bathrooms.The home has hot and cold air conditioning, together with double glazing and electric shutters. There is also underfloor heating in the bathrooms.The apartment is sold unfurnished, but there is a furniture package available as an option. Want to know more?

The term spacious is often used in property description, but this stunning four-bedroom apartment in Atalaya really does deserve the term. With four bedrooms and three bathrooms and multiple areas for relaxing studying watching tv and entertaining indoors and out it is a true family home, ideal for full time living or as a brilliant holiday destination.The apartment is in Nordica Royal Club on Avenida Pernet, in Atalaya, which is an exclusive gated community with lovely gardens, a large pool, gymnasium and sauna for the residents.This is a middle floor apartment with lift access from the entrance from the entrance and parking garage where a parking space is included.The accommodation is exceptional with an entrance hallway leading into a large living room with multiple areas for a dining area, sitting area with an open fireplace, tv lounge and reading area etc all leading out to large terrace, which is south facing, part open, and part covered providing further areas for relaxing and dining al fresco. From the terrace there are open views to the Mediterranean coastline.There is a large fitting kitchen with a central island unit and integrated appliances which has further dining space and there is a utility room. The large master bedroom has a bathroom ensuite and there three further bedrooms one with access to a private terrace. These bedrooms share two bathrooms, oner with a shower and one with a bath.There is also a storeroom accessed form the terrace.Hot and cold air conditioning is installed together with double glazing. Want to know more?

Modern Apartments With Balconies and Terraces in Santa EulàliaThe Hospitalet de Llobregat area is lively and well-developed, offering parks, cultural spots, sports facilities, and many services like restaurants, shopping centers, and healthcare. It is close to public transportation, making it easy to travel around Barcelona and nearby areas.The apartments for sale in Santa Eulàlia are located in Hospitalet de Llobregat, 100 m from public transport stations and 800 m from the Gran Via 2 shopping center and 9.7 km from the Josep Tarradellas Barcelona-El Prat Airport. It is surrounded by everything needed for a convenient lifestyle, including shops, schools, and parks.The building has multiple floors and includes parking spaces, storage rooms, and terraces. Apartments are modern, well-designed, and built with quality materials. They use an energy-efficient aerothermal system for heating and cooling.The apartments come with an open kitchen with built-in appliances, an en-suite bathroom, a balcony, and stylish finishes throughout. BCN-00017 Want to know more?

Townhouses in Cambrils With Modern AmenitiesThe townhouses for sale are located in the peaceful "La Ardiaca" area of Cambrils, Costa Dorada. This serene neighborhood is surrounded by beautiful beaches and offers easy access to local amenities and attractions. The area is surrounded by local shops, restaurants, and cultural attractions.The townhouses for sale in Cambrils Spain are located 5 minutes from city center and close to key attractions: 400 m from the main road connections, 600 m from the nearest train station and 700 m from the marina and beach.The complex consists of 8 modern townhouses with private gardens and terraces. Each home includes: a spacious interior across three levels (basement, ground floor, and first floor), open-plan kitchen, dining, and living areas, modern bathrooms, including en-suite options, balcony and private garden.The complex includes: indoor and outdoor spaces for relaxation and activities, private parking and secure access and cycling and running trails nearby for an active lifestyle. REU-00002 Want to know more?

LUXURY FLATS IN SAN PEDRO DE ALCÁNTARA Exclusive complex of luxury flats. Flats and penthouses from 2 to 4 bedrooms, with spacious interiors of up to 195 m2 and fabulous terraces of up to 189 m2. Air conditioning by aerothermal heating, fitted kitchens, built-in wardrobes, generous dressing areas, spacious bedrooms with floor-to-ceiling windows leading to the terraces, so that your new home will be flooded with Mediterranean light. Homes that combine luxury and functionality, exemplifying excellence and a healthy, relaxed lifestyle. The communal spaces are a joy for the soul: lush gardens, coworking space, electric vehicle charging points, indoor heated pool, outdoor saltwater pool, and fully equipped gym and spa. Fully gated complex with security entrance and checkpoint. In an enviable location next to the palm-lined promenade and within walking distance to the coastal town of San Pedro de Alcántara and its wide range of amenities. Very close to Puerto Banús and Marbella's Golden Mile. Easy access to the motorway, with Malaga airport only 40 minutes away. Imagine waking up in the morning and taking a leisurely stroll to watch the sunrise over the Mediterranean. Average temperature of 20°C and over 300 days of sunshine a year. Waking up to warm Mediterranean sunshine almost every day of the year... What more could you want? Want to know more?

Looking for the perfect location? Enjoy the beach, shops, and all modern comforts within walking distance! Then don’t miss this unique project! Welcome to Flamenca Sun, an exclusive residential development in the heart of Playa Flamenca, on Spain’s sunny Costa Blanca South. This high-end complex offers a rare combination of modern comfort, prime location, and luxury finishes – ideal as a permanent residence, holiday home, or investment property. Flamenca Sun features spacious apartments with 2, 3, or 4 bedrooms, each including: Private underground garage and storage room Fully fitted kitchen with built-in appliances Porcelain floors and PVC windows Air heating system and pre-installed air conditioning You can choose between ground-floor units with private gardens, mid-floor apartments with spacious terraces, or penthouses with their own private rooftop solarium. Each home is designed for maximum comfort, natural light, and top-quality living. Top-Class Amenities – For Every Lifestyle This gated community includes: Two large swimming pools surrounded by sunny terraces Lush gardens, walking paths, and relaxing green areas Children’s playground Lifts to all floors Secure underground parking All this, just 500 meters from the beach – perfect for sea and sun lovers. Prime Location – Everything Within Easy Reach Flamenca Sun is located in one of the most sought-after areas of Orihuela Costa: Walking distance to restaurants, bars, and shops Just 900 meters from the renowned Zenia Boulevard shopping center Close to several Blue Flag beaches like Cala Captain, Cala Cerrada, and Playa Flamenca Multiple golf courses only minutes away Located on the southern coast of Alicante, just 4 km from Torrevieja, Flamenca Sun is ideal for both peace-seekers and those looking for an active Mediterranean lifestyle. Delivery in 2026 Click above on “Request Latest Price List” to get the most up-to-date pricing and availability. Visit Flamenca Sun today and discover your dream home by the sea. Contact us for availability, floor plans, and private viewings. Want to know more?

NEW BUILD RESIDENTIAL COMPLEX IN CASARES Situated halfway between Marbella and Sotogrande, next to Estepona in the Andalusia Region, New Build residential complex holds a privileged location on the Costa del Sol, inviting you to enjoy the Mediterranean lifestyle and the characteristic joy and wellbeing the southern part of Spain has to offer. New Build gated residential, with exclusive amenities offering spectacular panoramic views of the Mediterranean Sea. Light floods into every corner of this luxurious residential complex, creating a warm and welcoming atmosphere, making you feel in harmony with the sun, sea and surrounding nature. Enjoy the peaceful surroundings and experience the privilege of living in this place. Casares, on the Costa del Sol, Malaga. Puerto Banus is 30 minutes away, 35 minutes from Marbella, 10 minutes from the marina of Sotogrande. Located close to the magnificent beaches of Tarifa in the province of Cadiz. Some of the best Golf Courses are located just 10 minutes from the development. Road communication is excellent, connecting with the N340 at km 145 and also well connected to the toll road. The international airport at Malaga and AVE train station is just 1 hour away and Gibraltar airport 25 minutes. Want to know more?

Penthouse Walking Distance to the Beach with Huge Terrace in TorremolinosThis penthouse is located on the second line of the beach in Torremolinos, Los Álamos. Los Álamos is a vibrant beachside neighborhood located on the eastern edge of Torremolinos near the Málaga border. Known for its wide, golden-sand beach and relaxed atmosphere, it offers a perfect blend of leisure and activity. The beachfront promenade is ideal for walking, cycling, or rollerblading, while the beach itself is popular for volleyball, windsurfing, and kitesurfing. During the day, families and sunseekers enjoy its spacious layout and modern amenities. By evening, the area transforms into a trendy hotspot with stylish beach clubs, traditional chiringuitos, and a vibrant nightlife scene that attracts both locals and visitors.The penthouse for sale in Torremolinos, Málaga is located just 200 meters from the nicest and biggest beaches of Torremolinos, easily reachable within walking distance. The center of Torremolinos is about 3 km away, and the international airport of Málaga is only 5 km away. Málaga city center is 12 km away, and the lovely and well-known Marbella is 50 km from the penthouse.This complex is newly built and in perfect condition; it offers great communal areas and well-maintained gardens. It also has underground parking spaces and storage rooms. The apartment includes 2 parking spaces in this case. You will be able to enjoy a sunny communal swimming pool.The interior offers 2 main or master bedrooms with larger size and ensuite bathrooms, and 2 other smaller bedrooms, all 4 of them with fitted wardrobes. There is also a separate fully fitted kitchen and a toilet, plus a complete bathroom to share for the 2 smaller bedrooms. AGP-00986 Want to know more?

This beautiful 4 bedroom, 3 bathroom apartment is located in the Colina Real urbanization in Guardamar. Through the front gates you enter the well maintained communal areas, the communal areas and corridors are an impressive entrance leading to the front door. This apartment is on the 4th floor, so you have a great view from every room over Guardamar and other landscapes. The house has a total of 4 bedrooms, the master bedroom has an en-suite bathroom. All bedrooms have (clothing) closets. A spacious kitchen with a separate room for washing machine, dryer and possibly an extra fridge. In the large bright living room you can fully enjoy, through all windows it has a lot of light and always a beautiful view. Through the living room you reach the balcony where you can enjoy the sunrise every day. The property has central air conditioning and alarm. The block has lift access to the communal solarium which also has facilities of sunbeds and BBQs to enjoy the breathtaking views from above over the countryside to the sea or inland towards the mountains. The complex is very mobility/wheelchair friendly, with good access to all areas, including the pool. This complex also has a general office to access and meet with the community president, to access shared toilet and shower facilities, to store bicycles etc. Around the solar heated communal pool there are sunbeds in the summer months and seating areas provided, toilet and shower / changing area, from this relax area the views are amazing. Situated just a 5 minute drive from the beaches at Guardamar, and looking over the mountains to Elche from the other side, this is a truly peaceful place to be. Well maintained, sold partly furnished, this apartment is definitely worth a visit. Making a wise choice for everyone, whether it is a house, a retirement home, a rental investment or a holiday home by the sea, it really offers a lot of possibilities Guardamar del Segura is a village on the coast of the Costa Blanca South in Alicante. With 11 kilometers of natural beaches with blue flags and large stretches of pine trees, this creates a unique city with a microclimate with very good temperatures all year round. And only 30 minutes to Alicante airport. Guardamar also has good gastronomy, beautiful parks, sea and many other activities. Want to know more?

The origin of a new way of living in MarbellaThe first residential project in a new district set to transform the lifestyle in Marbella.More than just a new development, this development is the gateway to an innovative, sustainable, and thoughtfully designed environment that offers a superior living experience.With 69 homes ranging from 1 to 4 bedrooms, spacious terraces, penthouses with private pools, and communal areas that redefine the concept of well-being, this development is a smart investment and a sure bet on quality of life.The communal areas elevate the concept of residential well-being in Marbella. The development includes a rooftop infinity pool, garden-level beach-style pool, professional gym, spa with sauna and changing rooms, coworking space, social club, Mediterranean gardens, 24-hour security, concierge service, and an underground car park with storage rooms and electric vehicle chargers. A space designed for those seeking new-build homes with top-tier amenities on the Costa del Sol.***Additional garage and storage room: €30,000 + VAT Want to know more?

Ground Floor Apartment, Casares, Costa del Sol.4 Bedrooms, 3 Bathrooms, Built 179 m², Terrace 45 m², Garden/Plot 67 m².Setting : Close To Shops, Close To Town, Close To Schools.Orientation : South West, West.Condition : Excellent, New Construction.Pool : Communal.Climate Control : Air Conditioning, Hot A/C, Cold A/C.Views : Mountain, Golf.Features : Covered Terrace, Lift, Fitted Wardrobes, Private Terrace, Gym, Storage Room, Utility Room, Ensuite Bathroom, Double Glazing, Basement.Furniture : Not Furnished.Kitchen : Fully Fitted.Garden : Communal, Private, Landscaped.Security : Gated Complex, Entry Phone.Parking : Underground.Category : Holiday Homes, Investment, Off Plan, With Planning Permission, Contemporary. Want to know more?

Discover, an incredible new development in one of Estepona's most exclusive areas. This private residential complex features apartments, including flats, penthouses, and ground-floor units with 2, 3, and 4 bedrooms each thoughtfully designed with layouts, finishes, and quality tailored to your needs.Enjoy the paces dedicated to relaxation and wellness, such as yoga areas and a spa with a Turkish bath, jacuzzi, and sauna. You'll also have access to a fully equipped indoor gym, coworking space, multimedia zones, game areas and beautiful pools with green areas.Every detail of these amenities has been designed to provide a unique experience, ensuring comfort and enjoyment.Nestled in the exclusive area of Arroyo Enmedio, in the charming city of Estepona. Surrounded by unparalleled natural beauty and just 800 meters from the nearest beach, this enclave offers a perfect combination of tranquility and convenience.Enjoy excellent connectivity to major services: more than 7 golf courses in a ratio of 7km, shopping centers, restaurants, and schools, all within easy reach. Additionally, its proximity to the A-7 highway allows for quick access to Marbella and Malaga Airport, ideal for those seeking the Mediterranean lifestyle without sacrificing connectivity.This is the place where the serenity of the surroundings merges with the modernity of a project designed for the fullest enjoyment of life. The spacious common areas have been designed to offer a wide range of amenities, services and fun for everyone.Your exclusive home in a boutique resort with large gardens with pools with saline chlorination, solarium, relaxation and yoga area, spa with Turkish bath, jacuzzi and sauna, indoor fitness area, leisure room withcoworking, multimedia and games area, surrounded by gardens with landscape treatment and picnic area.Let yourself be enveloped by the warm natural light that floods every corner of the development. Large windows that open up to stunning views of the surroundings will allow you to enjoy a unique sense of spaciousness and well-being. Each room has been carefully designed to make the most of natural light, creating bright and welcoming spaces where you can relax and recharge. Want to know more?

Apartments in Complex with Rich Amenities in Mijas CostaThe apartments are located in Mijas, a beautiful city in the Costa del Sol region. Mijas is located between the famous cities of Malaga and Marbella. The apartments are situated in the Mijas Costa area, one of the ideal places to buy apartment in Mijas Spain.The apartments have an ideal location of 25 km from Marbella, 35 km from the airport, and 45 km from the city center of Malaga.The luxe apartments are situated in a complex with a wide range of amenities. In the complex, there is a communal garden, a swimming pool, a fitness, a sauna, SPA, a Turkish bath, a playground, a tennis court, indoor and outdoor car park areas, a solar energy system, a lift, 24/7 security cameras, and security.The apartments in the complex are equipped with kitchen appliances, white goods, blinds, a bathtub, a shower cabin, an air-conditioning system, internet, an underfloor heating system, a central heating system, and a TV satellite. Some apartment options in the project have a solarium or terrace, a separate storage room, and an en-suite bathroom. AGP-00055 Want to know more?

2, 3, and 4-Bedroom Flats in an Exclusive High-Rise Building in Malaga Costa del SolMalaga is the city of Costa del Sol. It is known as Spain's Silicon Valley due to its Technological Park, which houses worldwide corporations, such as Google, Oracle, Bombardier, Siemens, and others. In terms of standards for quality of life, it ranks among the top Spanish cities. Malaga is also a significant cultural hub in Spain due to its 36 museums, which include the Picasso, Thyssen, and Pompidou, and an average annual visitor count of 4.000.000.The flats are well connected with Malaga Center. They are 10 minutes from the Malaga Port and the international airport. This modern and high-tech compound is located in a privileged area of Malaga that offers sports facilities, hospitals, schools, restaurants, universities, and outdoor sports areas with an idyllic southern climate. Additionally, you can find green spaces and resting spots here.Three 22-floor buildings make up the residential complex, each of which has a sea view and an inner area that provides the apartments with an immediate feeling of spaciousness. There are extensive communal areas, one heated and two outdoor swimming pools, a spa, a gym, a cinema, car parking areas, a playroom, and a children's playground.The flats for sale in Malaga overlook the Mediterranean Sea. It has high ceilings, patios that overlook the sea, storage room, and air conditioning. AGP-00361 Want to know more?