SURROUNDINGS The location at Muidepoort offers a perfect balance between urban living and serene green surroundings. The proximity of parks, walking paths along the Leie river, and a range of shops and restaurants make this the ideal place to live. Muidepoort is known for its cozy and dynamic atmosphere, making it an attractive living environment for both young professionals and families. Here you can enjoy the best that Ghent has to offer, with easy access to the city center and excellent public transport connections. LAYOUT The apartments offer a harmonious blend of space and light, with large windows filling each room with natural daylight. The open-plan living areas are perfect for both relaxation and entertainment, and the modern kitchens are equipped with the latest appliances. Each apartment has one to three bedrooms, ideal for families, professionals, and investors. The living area of the apartments varies from 67m² to 137m². E-LEVEL 30 Built with sustainability in mind, the apartments are energy efficient and equipped with a heat pump and solar panels. This not only results in lower energy costs, but also contributes to a greener future. Contact Krista for more information on ### Want to know more?
New construction: flat for sale with 1 bedrooms - Gent / Gand
Discover De Stip Appartementen, a modern residential project located at Bruiloftstraat 42 in Gentbrugge. Situated in a peaceful, car-free neighborhood, this development offers a unique living experience just a short distance from the city center. The area is renowned for its proximity to the Gentbrugse Meersen, a vast 240-hectare park and nature reserve, providing residents with ample opportunities for outdoor activities and relaxation. The project features a selection of 14 high-quality apartments and houses designed by reputable architects Bontinck, Denc, and Areal. The living spaces range from 67 to 130 square meters and include options with one to three bedrooms, catering to a variety of needs. All units benefit from bright, open interiors and are complemented by amenities such as bicycle storage and private gardens for some homes. Parking is conveniently available underground, maintaining the neighborhood’s fully pedestrian-friendly atmosphere. De Stip emphasizes quality living with a focus on green spaces and community integration. Its location offers easy access to public transportation and cycling routes into Gent, making commuting straightforward. The neighborhood is well-equipped with local shops, sports facilities, and schools, ensuring a comfortable and convenient lifestyle for residents seeking a balanced urban environment with a touch of nature. Prices for available units range from €281,000 to €528,000. Want to know more?
SURROUNDINGS The location at Muidepoort offers a perfect balance between urban living and serene green surroundings. The proximity of parks, walking paths along the Leie river, and a range of shops and restaurants make this the ideal place to live. Muidepoort is known for its cozy and dynamic atmosphere, making it an attractive living environment for both young professionals and families. Here you can enjoy the best that Ghent has to offer, with easy access to the city center and excellent public transport connections. LAYOUT The apartments offer a harmonious blend of space and light, with large windows filling each room with natural daylight. The open-plan living areas are perfect for both relaxation and entertainment, and the modern kitchens are equipped with the latest appliances. Each apartment has one to three bedrooms, ideal for families, professionals, and investors. The living area of the apartments varies from 67m² to 137m². E-LEVEL 30 Built with sustainability in mind, the apartments are energy efficient and equipped with a heat pump and solar panels. This not only results in lower energy costs, but also contributes to a greener future. Contact Krista for more information on ### Want to know more?
Our website only shows a small part of what's on offer in the “Bloei” project. The last four apartments in Bloei Phase 1 will be finished in 2025 and will be ready to move into right away. This means that the new residents can enjoy their new home straight away, without any further renovations or refurbishments. Feel free to contact us for an overview of all available properties in Bloei and to visit the show apartment. Bloei stands for greenery, accessibility, and affordability in Ghent, with nature as a common thread running through it, located between a new sustainable park and an existing forest. Bloei is being built between Ghent-Sint-Pieters, The Loop, and AZ Maria Middelares. The city of Ghent will be investing in this project area in the coming years to create a new and vibrant district. The Project The Bloei residential project, spread over several buildings along the Vossenbos, consists of a mix of 1, 2, 3, and 4-bedroom apartments, all with a spacious terrace. Bloei's large windows draw light in, while you enjoy an open view of the park or forest, with privacy preserved. The Bloei apartments are practically laid out so that you can make optimal use of all the space and furnish it according to your own style and wishes. Thanks to stylish and high-quality finishes, the Bloei residential units have an attractive appearance. In phase 2, we offer you the Marjolein (4) building and the Steenanjer (5). Sustainability All Bloei residential units are nearly energy neutral (BEN) and fully comply with stricter energy consumption requirements. Among other things, solar panels and heat pumps are used. The Bloei park, which is currently under construction, is also dedicated to biodiversity. Optimally designed apartments with spacious terraces, a safe living environment, and multiple meeting places ensure that both young and old feel at home in “Bloei.” Location With a mobiscore of 8.9/10, Bloei is perfectly located near the Gent-Sint-Pieters station and the main roads to and from Ghent. The center of Ghent—with all its shops, cultural sites, and cozy restaurants—is easily accessible by bike and public transport. You can also easily reach Bloei by bike thanks to the multiple bike routes. A beautiful new apartment or a smart investment? Bloei has it all! Fixed and non-revisable price. Make your appointment now with Anthony on ### for detailed information. Want to know more?
Our website only shows a small part of what's on offer in the “Bloei” project. The last four apartments in Bloei Phase 1 will be finished in 2025 and will be ready to move into right away. This means that the new residents can enjoy their new home straight away, without any further renovations or refurbishments. Feel free to contact us for an overview of all available properties in Bloei and to visit the show apartment. Bloei stands for greenery, accessibility, and affordability in Ghent, with nature as a common thread running through it, located between a new sustainable park and an existing forest. Bloei is being built between Ghent-Sint-Pieters, The Loop, and AZ Maria Middelares. The city of Ghent will be investing in this project area in the coming years to create a new and vibrant district. The Project The Bloei residential project, spread over several buildings along the Vossenbos, consists of a mix of 1, 2, 3, and 4-bedroom apartments, all with a spacious terrace. Bloei's large windows draw light in, while you enjoy an open view of the park or forest, with privacy preserved. The Bloei apartments are practically laid out so that you can make optimal use of all the space and furnish it according to your own style and wishes. Thanks to stylish and high-quality finishes, the Bloei residential units have an attractive appearance. In phase 2, we offer you the Marjolein (4) building and the Steenanjer (5). Sustainability All Bloei residential units are nearly energy neutral (BEN) and fully comply with stricter energy consumption requirements. Among other things, solar panels and heat pumps are used. The Bloei park, which is currently under construction, is also dedicated to biodiversity. Optimally designed apartments with spacious terraces, a safe living environment, and multiple meeting places ensure that both young and old feel at home in “Bloei.” Location With a mobiscore of 8.9/10, Bloei is perfectly located near the Gent-Sint-Pieters station and the main roads to and from Ghent. The center of Ghent—with all its shops, cultural sites, and cozy restaurants—is easily accessible by bike and public transport. You can also easily reach Bloei by bike thanks to the multiple bike routes. A beautiful new apartment or a smart investment? Bloei has it all! Fixed and non-revisable price. Make your appointment now with Anthony on ### for detailed information. Want to know more?
Discover this exceptional and modern ground-floor apartment located in the vibrant city of Gent, offering a perfect blend of comfort, practicality, and sustainable living. Priced at €379,000, this property provides an attractive opportunity for those seeking a contemporary home with energy-efficient features in a highly accessible location. Its strategic position on the border of Bloemekenswijk and Mariakerke ensures proximity to green spaces such as the Westerbegraafplaats and the Guislainsite, making it an ideal choice for individuals or families looking for tranquility without sacrificing convenience. This thoughtfully designed apartment boasts a total living area of 91 m², with one spacious bedroom that offers a cozy retreat. The open-plan living space seamlessly integrates a fully finished kitchen and bathroom, creating a welcoming environment suitable for both relaxation and entertaining. Large windows ensure ample natural light, while the south-facing terrace of 20 m² invites you to enjoy outdoor living in a private setting. Additional features include a dedicated storage room and an underground parking space, enhancing the overall comfort and practicality of the property. Modern amenities such as a geothermal heat pump, underfloor heating, solar panels, and a heat recovery ventilation system demonstrate a commitment to energy efficiency and reduced utility costs, aligning with contemporary sustainability standards. Situated in a newly constructed complex, this residence is part of the 'Westerhof' project, characterized by its peaceful yet central location in Gent. The building benefits from an elevator and adheres to high-quality standards, with the property being sold as a “turnkey” solution by Danneels, who guarantees a fixed price and delivery timeline. The apartment’s orientation and state-of-the-art installations make it an appealing choice for those seeking a low-maintenance, eco-friendly home close to the city’s amenities and green zones. With its combination of modern design, excellent energy performance, and prime location, this property represents an outstanding investment opportunity. Contact us today to schedule a viewing and take the first step toward your new home in Gent. Want to know more?
Combine comfortable living with excellent accessibility, so you can fully enjoy your new home! LOCATION Experience optimal living in one of the 16 energy-efficient new apartments of Project CARSE, located on the popular Antwerpsesteenweg in Oostakker. Thanks to the central location between Ghent and Lochristi and the proximity of the R4, you can be in Ghent with all its facilities within minutes. Public transport, numerous stores and eateries are also nearby. PROJECT AND FINISHING The apartments have 1 to 3 bedrooms, each with a private terrace. The energy-efficient finishing ensures optimal living comfort with underfloor heating via heat pump (incl. passive cooling), a D ventilation system and solar panels on the residential building. Furthermore, the ecological building choices, efficient space layout and the use of sustainable materials complete the living experience. The project offers additional amenities such as a communal garbage and bicycle storage area and a green area in the back, to be arranged according to the residents' wishes. As an added convenience, the option of purchasing an underground parking space and/or underground storage room is offered. ADVANTAGE OF 6% VAT Benefit from the reduced VAT rate of 6%, if you meet the conditions. Be quick and grab this unique opportunity now! New for investors: the 6% VAT rate now also applies to purchases that are rented out for 15 years (under the applicable legal conditions). This reduces the purchase cost and can significantly improve your net return. More info? Call Kevin at ### (Area estimated, photos are reference images) Want to know more?
Welcome to De Stip, a progressive new-build project in Gentbrugge, located between Tennisstraat, Arthur Van Laethemstraat, and Bruiloftstraat, on the former site of AA Gent and La Gantoise. Here you will live in a modern, green neighborhood with a strong focus on sustainability and quality of life. The De Stip project comprises 135 residential units, spread over 11 buildings: - 66 single-family homes with private outdoor space - 69 apartments with spacious terraces - Commercial spaces that provide extra liveliness The neighborhood is designed as a low-rise residential environment with lots of light, greenery, and a shared park. De Stip is fully committed to sustainability with: - E-level lower than E10 - Collective geothermal heating (BEO field) - Water buffering and biodiverse planting plan - Use of sustainable materials - Low energy costs, optimal comfort, and 6% VAT possible upon purchase. In collaboration with Areal Architecten, Bontinck Architecture and Engineering, and denc-studio, De Stip offers contemporary, high-quality architecture with an eye for detail and sustainability. De Stip is strategically located in Gentbrugge, close to schools, shops, and public transportation. Advantages: - Energy-efficient homes (E-level lower than E10) - Collective geothermal energy via ESCO - 6% VAT possible - Quiet, green location - High-quality architecture Contact us today for more information about the available apartments and homes on ### Want to know more?
Location: B'eau Kouter is a residential project in the heart of Ghent. The Kouter, the historic center of the city. A vibrant square where you have everything within walking distance: stores, bakeries, restaurants, terraces and a flower market on Sundays. This new residence is a combination of apartments overlooking the Kouter as well as the Ketelvest. The combination of this historical location, bringing together its authenticity of the square and existing buildings, creates from B'eau Kouter a classy new building with apartments and commercial spaces. Project - entities: There are different types of apartments available; both on the Kouter and on the Ketelvest side. There are 1 and 2 bedroom apartments between 77m2 and 135M2 available all with a terrace. So some apartments have terraces overlooking the water or the courtyard garden or the Kouter. All apartments are finished and available on short notice. Are you looking for a new apartment on a TOP location in the vibrant heart of Ghent? Then be sure to contact us. Want to know more?
Location: B'eau Kouter is a residential project in the heart of Ghent. The Kouter, the historic center of the city. A vibrant square where you have everything within walking distance: stores, bakeries, restaurants, terraces and a flower market on Sundays. This new residence is a combination of apartments overlooking the Kouter as well as the Ketelvest. The combination of this historical location, bringing together its authenticity of the square and existing buildings, creates from B'eau Kouter a classy new building with apartments and commercial spaces. Project - entities: There are different types of apartments available; both on the Kouter and on the Ketelvest side. There are 1 and 2 bedroom apartments between 77m2 and 135M2 available all with a terrace. So some apartments have terraces overlooking the water or the courtyard garden or the Kouter. All apartments are finished and available on short notice. Are you looking for a new apartment on a TOP location in the vibrant heart of Ghent? Then be sure to contact us. Want to know more?
Location: Residence Hutsepoort is located in Zwijnaarde, a residential area near Parkbos. The Technology Park, stores, schools, University Hospital, public transport and recreational facilities are in the immediate vicinity. From this location, Ghent Center is easily accessible by bicycle or public transportation. By car you reach within a few minutes the E40, E17, R4, ... Project - layout: In this small-scale residence of 20 apartments, we can offer you 1, 2 and 3 bedroom apartments with spacious terraces. Hutsepoort will be a BEN project (Nearly Energy Neutral). The underfloor heating, heat pump with possibility of cooling, ventilation D and veneer flooring will provide you with optimal living comfort. You also have a say in the finishing of the apartment. The communal garden has a green area with pond and a sun terrace. There is a possibility to purchase an underground parking space. In short, a wonderful location to live or to invest. For info call Anthony at ### Want to know more?
Combine comfortable living with excellent accessibility, so you can fully enjoy your new home! LOCATION Experience optimal living in one of the 16 energy-efficient new apartments of Project CARSE, located on the popular Antwerpsesteenweg in Oostakker. Thanks to the central location between Ghent and Lochristi and the proximity of the R4, you can be in Ghent with all its facilities within minutes. Public transport, numerous stores and eateries are also nearby. PROJECT AND FINISHING The apartments have 1 to 3 bedrooms, each with a private terrace. The energy-efficient finishing ensures optimal living comfort with underfloor heating via heat pump (incl. passive cooling), a D ventilation system and solar panels on the residential building. Furthermore, the ecological building choices, efficient space layout and the use of sustainable materials complete the living experience. The project offers additional amenities such as a communal garbage and bicycle storage area and a green area in the back, to be arranged according to the residents' wishes. As an added convenience, the option of purchasing an underground parking space and/or underground storage room is offered. ADVANTAGE OF 6% VAT Benefit from the reduced VAT rate of 6%, if you meet the conditions. Be quick and grab this unique opportunity now! New for investors: the 6% VAT rate now also applies to purchases that are rented out for 15 years (under the applicable legal conditions). This reduces the purchase cost and can significantly improve your net return. More info? Call Kevin at ### (Area estimated, photos are reference images) Want to know more?
Combine comfortable living with excellent accessibility, so you can fully enjoy your new home! LOCATION Experience optimal living in one of the 16 energy-efficient new apartments of Project CARSE, located on the popular Antwerpsesteenweg in Oostakker. Thanks to the central location between Ghent and Lochristi and the proximity of the R4, you can be in Ghent with all its facilities within minutes. Public transport, numerous stores and eateries are also nearby. PROJECT AND FINISHING The apartments have 1 to 3 bedrooms, each with a private terrace. The energy-efficient finishing ensures optimal living comfort with underfloor heating via heat pump (incl. passive cooling), a D ventilation system and solar panels on the residential building. Furthermore, the ecological building choices, efficient space layout and the use of sustainable materials complete the living experience. The project offers additional amenities such as a communal garbage and bicycle storage area and a green area in the back, to be arranged according to the residents' wishes. As an added convenience, the option of purchasing an underground parking space and/or underground storage room is offered. ADVANTAGE OF 6% VAT Benefit from the reduced VAT rate of 6%, if you meet the conditions. Be quick and grab this unique opportunity now! New for investors: the 6% VAT rate now also applies to purchases that are rented out for 15 years (under the applicable legal conditions). This reduces the purchase cost and can significantly improve your net return. More info? Call Kevin at ### (Area estimated, photos are reference images) Want to know more?
Combine comfortable living with excellent accessibility, so you can fully enjoy your new home! LOCATION Experience optimal living in one of the 16 energy-efficient new apartments of Project CARSE, located on the popular Antwerpsesteenweg in Oostakker. Thanks to the central location between Ghent and Lochristi and the proximity of the R4, you can be in Ghent with all its facilities within minutes. Public transport, numerous stores and eateries are also nearby. PROJECT AND FINISHING The apartments have 1 to 3 bedrooms, each with a private terrace. The energy-efficient finishing ensures optimal living comfort with underfloor heating via heat pump (incl. passive cooling), a D ventilation system and solar panels on the residential building. Furthermore, the ecological building choices, efficient space layout and the use of sustainable materials complete the living experience. The project offers additional amenities such as a communal garbage and bicycle storage area and a green area in the back, to be arranged according to the residents' wishes. As an added convenience, the option of purchasing an underground parking space and/or underground storage room is offered. ADVANTAGE OF 6% VAT Benefit from the reduced VAT rate of 6%, if you meet the conditions. Be quick and grab this unique opportunity now! New for investors: the 6% VAT rate now also applies to purchases that are rented out for 15 years (under the applicable legal conditions). This reduces the purchase cost and can significantly improve your net return. More info? Call Kevin at ### (Area estimated, photos are reference images) Want to know more?
Combine comfortable living with excellent accessibility, so you can fully enjoy your new home! LOCATION Experience optimal living in one of the 16 energy-efficient new apartments of Project CARSE, located on the popular Antwerpsesteenweg in Oostakker. Thanks to the central location between Ghent and Lochristi and the proximity of the R4, you can be in Ghent with all its facilities within minutes. Public transport, numerous stores and eateries are also nearby. PROJECT AND FINISHING The apartments have 1 to 3 bedrooms, each with a private terrace. The energy-efficient finishing ensures optimal living comfort with underfloor heating via heat pump (incl. passive cooling), a D ventilation system and solar panels on the residential building. Furthermore, the ecological building choices, efficient space layout and the use of sustainable materials complete the living experience. The project offers additional amenities such as a communal garbage and bicycle storage area and a green area in the back, to be arranged according to the residents' wishes. As an added convenience, the option of purchasing an underground parking space and/or underground storage room is offered. ADVANTAGE OF 6% VAT Benefit from the reduced VAT rate of 6%, if you meet the conditions. Be quick and grab this unique opportunity now! New for investors: the 6% VAT rate now also applies to purchases that are rented out for 15 years (under the applicable legal conditions). This reduces the purchase cost and can significantly improve your net return. More info? Call Kevin at ### (Area estimated, photos are reference images) Want to know more?
Welcome to De Stip, a progressive new-build project in Gentbrugge, located between Tennisstraat, Arthur Van Laethemstraat, and Bruiloftstraat, on the former site of AA Gent and La Gantoise. Here you will live in a modern, green neighborhood with a strong focus on sustainability and quality of life. The De Stip project comprises 135 residential units, spread over 11 buildings: - 66 single-family homes with private outdoor space - 69 apartments with spacious terraces - Commercial spaces that provide extra liveliness The neighborhood is designed as a low-rise residential environment with lots of light, greenery, and a shared park. De Stip is fully committed to sustainability with: - E-level lower than E10 - Collective geothermal heating (BEO field) - Water buffering and biodiverse planting plan - Use of sustainable materials - Low energy costs, optimal comfort, and 6% VAT possible upon purchase. In collaboration with Areal Architecten, Bontinck Architecture and Engineering, and denc-studio, De Stip offers contemporary, high-quality architecture with an eye for detail and sustainability. De Stip is strategically located in Gentbrugge, close to schools, shops, and public transportation. Advantages: - Energy-efficient homes (E-level lower than E10) - Collective geothermal energy via ESCO - 6% VAT possible - Quiet, green location - High-quality architecture Contact us today for more information about the available apartments and homes on ### Want to know more?
Welcome to De Stip, a progressive new-build project in Gentbrugge, located between Tennisstraat, Arthur Van Laethemstraat, and Bruiloftstraat, on the former site of AA Gent and La Gantoise. Here you will live in a modern, green neighborhood with a strong focus on sustainability and quality of life. The De Stip project comprises 135 residential units, spread over 11 buildings: - 66 single-family homes with private outdoor space - 69 apartments with spacious terraces - Commercial spaces that provide extra liveliness The neighborhood is designed as a low-rise residential environment with lots of light, greenery, and a shared park. De Stip is fully committed to sustainability with: - E-level lower than E10 - Collective geothermal heating (BEO field) - Water buffering and biodiverse planting plan - Use of sustainable materials - Low energy costs, optimal comfort, and 6% VAT possible upon purchase. In collaboration with Areal Architecten, Bontinck Architecture and Engineering, and denc-studio, De Stip offers contemporary, high-quality architecture with an eye for detail and sustainability. De Stip is strategically located in Gentbrugge, close to schools, shops, and public transportation. Advantages: - Energy-efficient homes (E-level lower than E10) - Collective geothermal energy via ESCO - 6% VAT possible - Quiet, green location - High-quality architecture Contact us today for more information about the available apartments and homes on ### Want to know more?
Welcome to De Stip, a progressive new-build project in Gentbrugge, located between Tennisstraat, Arthur Van Laethemstraat, and Bruiloftstraat, on the former site of AA Gent and La Gantoise. Here you will live in a modern, green neighborhood with a strong focus on sustainability and quality of life. The De Stip project comprises 135 residential units, spread over 11 buildings: - 66 single-family homes with private outdoor space - 69 apartments with spacious terraces - Commercial spaces that provide extra liveliness The neighborhood is designed as a low-rise residential environment with lots of light, greenery, and a shared park. De Stip is fully committed to sustainability with: - E-level lower than E10 - Collective geothermal heating (BEO field) - Water buffering and biodiverse planting plan - Use of sustainable materials - Low energy costs, optimal comfort, and 6% VAT possible upon purchase. In collaboration with Areal Architecten, Bontinck Architecture and Engineering, and denc-studio, De Stip offers contemporary, high-quality architecture with an eye for detail and sustainability. De Stip is strategically located in Gentbrugge, close to schools, shops, and public transportation. Advantages: - Energy-efficient homes (E-level lower than E10) - Collective geothermal energy via ESCO - 6% VAT possible - Quiet, green location - High-quality architecture Contact us today for more information about the available apartments and homes on ### Want to know more?
Welcome to De Stip, a progressive new-build project in Gentbrugge, located between Tennisstraat, Arthur Van Laethemstraat, and Bruiloftstraat, on the former site of AA Gent and La Gantoise. Here you will live in a modern, green neighborhood with a strong focus on sustainability and quality of life. The De Stip project comprises 135 residential units, spread over 11 buildings: - 66 single-family homes with private outdoor space - 69 apartments with spacious terraces - Commercial spaces that provide extra liveliness The neighborhood is designed as a low-rise residential environment with lots of light, greenery, and a shared park. De Stip is fully committed to sustainability with: - E-level lower than E10 - Collective geothermal heating (BEO field) - Water buffering and biodiverse planting plan - Use of sustainable materials - Low energy costs, optimal comfort, and 6% VAT possible upon purchase. In collaboration with Areal Architecten, Bontinck Architecture and Engineering, and denc-studio, De Stip offers contemporary, high-quality architecture with an eye for detail and sustainability. De Stip is strategically located in Gentbrugge, close to schools, shops, and public transportation. Advantages: - Energy-efficient homes (E-level lower than E10) - Collective geothermal energy via ESCO - 6% VAT possible - Quiet, green location - High-quality architecture Contact us today for more information about the available apartments and homes on ### Want to know more?
Discover the charm of living in Huize Stella: comfort, tranquility and city life in perfect harmony! LOCATION In this small new construction project, you will find this stylish ground floor apartment. Designed by the renowned architectural firm Caan, this project guarantees a quality finish and durable materials. Thanks to its location near Sint-Pietersstation, UZ-Ghent and De Sterre, you are assured of an easy connection to both public transport and the car. Within walking distance are the Citadelpark and the Paul de Smet de Naeyerpark, ideal for relaxing in green surroundings. (MOBISCORE: 9,5/10) DESCRIPTION The apartment is ready to move in except for the painting works. You enter through the entrance hall with separate storage room. An elegant glass door brings you to the living space with open kitchen equipped with cooking island. The kitchen is the beating heart of the apartment, perfect for cozy evenings with family or friends. Thanks to the large windows, the living space is bathed in natural light. From the living room you can access the sunny terrace with favorable orientation. Furthermore, the apartment has a guest toilet, a bedroom with ensuite a stylish bathroom where comfort and luxury come together seamlessly. EXTRA ASSETS The basement storage room, a private garden shed as well as the communal garden which is an inviting place for cozy summer days! Contact Kevin: ### (some photos are reference images, sizes are estimated) Want to know more?
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