Apartment for sale with 3 facades - Vlaams-Brabant (Province) (page 2)

This newly built duplex apartment for sale in Opwijk offers contemporary living with a focus on energy efficiency and comfort, priced at €350,000. Completed in 2025, this residence features a spacious 96.5 m² of living space distributed over two floors. The first floor welcomes you with a bright living and dining area that seamlessly connects to an open, fully equipped kitchen. From here, you can step out onto a generous 25 m² terrace, perfect for enjoying peaceful outdoor moments. Additional amenities on this level include a laundry room and a separate guest toilet, providing practicality alongside style. Upstairs, the duplex boasts two comfortable bedrooms and a well-appointed bathroom that includes a walk-in shower, washbasin, and toilet. There is also extra storage space conveniently located on this floor. The property benefits from private access ensuring privacy and exclusivity, along with two private bicycle storage hooks for added convenience. Heating is efficiently provided by a heat pump combined with underfloor heating, while double-glazed windows contribute to its excellent energy performance rating of 44 kWh/m² per year, earning it an A label. Residents can also consider acquiring an underground garage and storage unit if desired. The sale is subject to VAT regulations. Situated in a quiet setting near the centre of Opwijk, this duplex enjoys proximity to local shops, schools, and public transport, with easy connections to nearby towns such as Asse, Merchtem, and Dendermonde. The location offers the advantages of tranquility while remaining close to everyday amenities. This property represents an excellent opportunity for those seeking a modern, turnkey home or a sustainable investment in a high-quality new development. For further information or to arrange a viewing, please do not hesitate to contact us. Want to know more?

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This bright and modern apartment for sale in Vilvoorde offers a remarkable living experience on the sixth floor of a contemporary building completed in 2013, equipped with a lift. Priced at 315,000 €, this well-designed property features a practical layout with a clear separation between living and sleeping areas, ensuring comfort and functionality. The spacious living room, covering approximately 30 m², seamlessly connects to a fully equipped open kitchen, providing ample space for both relaxing and dining. Large windows on three façades flood the apartment with natural light throughout the day, while the west-facing 8 m² terrace extends the living space outdoors, offering stunning panoramic views over Brussels and the nearby green Domaine des Trois Fontaines. The apartment encompasses two full bedrooms and two bathrooms—one fitted with a bathtub and sink, the other with a shower and sink—along with a separate toilet for convenience. Practical features include a storage room equipped with connections for a washing machine and dryer. The property also includes one outdoor parking space and a private cellar, with an option to acquire a second parking place. Thanks to its favorable EPC label B, indicating an energy consumption of 105 kWh/m²/year, the apartment combines modern comfort with energy efficiency. Heating is provided by gas, and the electrical installation is certified, ensuring compliance with safety standards. Located in Vilvoorde (postal code 1800), this apartment benefits from proximity to the lush green spaces of Domaine des Trois Fontaines, offering residents a peaceful environment while remaining connected to Brussels. The building comprises 14 floors, and this particular unit enjoys expansive views from its elevated position on the sixth floor. With maintenance costs of approximately 100 € per month and no applicable VAT, this property represents an excellent investment opportunity or a comfortable home in a sought-after area. Interested parties are encouraged to contact the seller promptly to arrange a viewing or obtain further information about this exceptional apartment. Want to know more?

*** UNDER OPTION *** Just a stone’s throw from Lembeek train station and all amenities, IVA offers this charming fully and tastefully renovated triplex without common charges, with a gross floor area of 155 m² (according to EPC) on a plot of approximately 1 are 22. The ground floor features a spacious and bright living area including a lounge with an elegant decorative ethanol stove and a dining room with a pellet stove, opening onto a recent fully equipped kitchen. A separate toilet completes the ground floor. Outside, you will enjoy a pleasant landscaped terrace of approximately 40 m², partly covered, as well as a garden storage space. On the first floor, the night hall leads to a spacious 17 m² bedroom and a modern bathroom, renovated in 2024, fitted with a bath, shower and toilet. The second floor hosts a 13 m² bedroom with built-in wardrobes and an additional 10 m² floor area room that can be adapted to your needs as an office, child’s bedroom or future bathroom thanks to the already installed connections. The triplex also benefits from a fitted cellar including a laundry area and workshop, offering valuable storage and working space. Features and equipment: shutters, wooden and PVC window frames, pellet stove, decorative ethanol stove, gas condensing boiler, compliant electrical installation and EPC C. *** Offers starting from 369,000 EUR *** A great opportunity not to be missed! Contact us on ### to arrange a viewing. Want to know more?

WOLUWE-SAINT-ETIENNE, just steps away from the Woluwe Shopping Center and UCL, and a short distance from NATO and the airport, stunning NEW PENTHOUSE (3bed/2shower) of 170 m² with a wide 27 m² TERRACE and access to a SECURE COMMUNAL GARDEN. Located on the 3rd floor, it comprises an entrance hall with cloakroom and guest WC. Living room of +/- 55 m² with a fully equipped open-plan kitchen opening onto the S-W facing terrace. Laundry room. Master bedroom of 18.5 m² with en-suite shower room (double sink, shower, WC), a nighthall, two additional bedrooms (15.5 and 13 m²) and a shower room (double sink, shower). The apartment benefits from a privileged setting on a green 3-hectare site, harmoniously combining urban living with the tranquility of nature. Designed with an ECOLOGICAL and SUSTAINABLE approach, it features high-performance technologies (GEOTHERMAL ENERGY, heat pumps, solar panels, underfloor heating, …) as well as high-quality construction materials ensuring a high level of comfort and excellent energy performance. EPC A. Cellar and 2 parkings required for an additional cost. Sale of the land subject to registration fees (full ownership share: 12% + remaining share: 12% on the subsoil and 5% on the emphyteusis). Sale of the buildings subject to VAT 21%. !! POSSIBILITY OF VAT at 6%, under conditions !! To be discovered at L&P! Want to know more?

Located in a peaceful residential neighborhood, just a short walk from Stockel and all its amenities, this beautiful apartment offers approximately 81 square meters of living space. It was tastefully renovated in 2020 and occupies the ground floor of a well-maintained building dating from 1953, which does not have an elevator. It is laid out as follows: Entrance hall Bright living room of approximately 25 m² with hardwood floors Fully equipped open-concept kitchen of approximately 7.5 m² Bedroom hallway Bedroom 1 of approximately 15 m² with hardwood floors Bedroom 2 of approximately 11 m² with hardwood floors Bathroom of approx. 4 m² featuring a vanity unit, shower, and toilet On the 3rd floor: Private maid’s room In the basement: Bicycle storage accessible directly from the street Two private storage units Additional information: Ground floor (floor 0/3) Building without an elevator Double-glazed PVC windows Completely renovated in 2020 Individual gas boiler Common charges: approx. €100/month Energy Performance Certificate (EPC): E – 423 kWh/m²/year This apartment stands out for its brightness, excellent overall condition, and prime location in close proximity to shops, public transportation, schools, and green spaces. An ideal opportunity for a first-time buyer, an investor, or anyone looking for a move-in ready property. Want to know more?

Cet appartement magnifiquement rénové, situé au 1er étage (sans ascenseur), offre un cadre de vie agréable et confortable dans un quartier calme de Dilbeek, avec un accès facile à Bruxelles, à l'E40 et au Ring. Agencement : hall d'entrée, pièce à vivre spacieuse et lumineuse, cuisine entièrement équipée, buanderie/débarras, salle de douche et 3 chambres. L'appartement dispose également d'une cave et offre la possibilité d'acquérir un garage fermé. Prix demandé : 25 000 € Atout supplémentaire : les résidents peuvent profiter d'un jardin commun, idéal pour se détendre au vert. Un logement idéal pour ceux qui recherchent de l'espace, du confort et un emplacement stratégique à proximité de toutes les commodités. 💶 Charges communes : +/- 85 €/mois (entretien des parties communes, assurance, syndic et entretien du jardin) 🔥 Provision pour le chauffage et l'eau chaude : +/- 230 €/mois (en fonction de la consommation individuelle) 📩 Intéressé(e) ? Contactez-nous à l'adresse ### pour plus d'informations ou pour organiser une visite ! Traduit avec DeepL.com (version gratuite) Want to know more?

This beautifully renovated and fully furnished studio apartment is located at Tervuursestraat 117 in Leuven, offered for sale at €279,000. Situated on the second floor of a well-maintained building dating from 1974, this contemporary living space underwent a complete refurbishment in 2014 using high-quality materials and luxurious finishes. The studio comprises a bright, open-plan living area of approximately 35 m², which comfortably accommodates a lounge, dining space, workspace, and a double bed. The separate, modern kitchen features a stone countertop and is fully equipped to meet daily culinary needs. Additionally, the bathroom stands out with its elegant walk-in shower and matching washbasin, covering around 3 m². Recent upgrades include all new taps in both the kitchen and bathroom, enhancing the overall functionality and aesthetics of the apartment. The property further benefits from a south-facing terrace of about 4 m² that extends from the living space, offering an open view over greenery—an excellent spot for relaxation and enjoying natural light. Additional storage is available in a 4 m² cellar equipped with electricity, providing practical space for belongings. Convenience is assured with an underground covered parking spot (number 4), included in the sale price and located behind the building. This parking facility is complemented by a communal bicycle storage area for residents’ use. The apartment’s energy performance certificate rates it at 185 kWh/m² per year (B-label), and it features double glazing along with gas heating. The electrical installation complies with current safety regulations, and the building is certified asbestos-free. Elevator access within the four-story building adds ease of mobility. Situated in a residential urban zone of Leuven, this studio offers immediate availability as it is currently not rented out, making it ideal for the upcoming academic year or as an investment. The cadastral income is listed at €638 annually, and VAT does not apply to this sale. Its location near UZ Gasthuisberg underscores its appeal for students or professionals seeking proximity to key city amenities. For further information or to arrange a viewing, interested parties are encouraged to contact the seller directly via phone at ### or by email at ### . Additional documentation such as the EPC certificate and soil attestation can be found on the agency’s website, providing full transparency on this compelling property opportunity in Leuven. Want to know more?

Investment property—two apartments. Located in the center of Scherpenheuvel, with shops and public transportation within walking distance. Both apartments are rented to creditworthy tenants. There is no obligation to renovate the apartments; both have an EPC rating of D and have passed a compliance electrical inspection. Contact us to view the rental file and/or schedule a visit. Want to know more?

Ideally located in the De Hoek neighbourhood, within immediate proximity to the Rhode-Saint-Genèse and De Hoek train stations, IVA presents this ground-floor property to renovate, offering approximately 75 m² of living space and a private garden of approximately 75 m², set within a small co-ownership with no common charges. The property comprises an entrance hall with a guest toilet, a bright living and dining room, and a separate kitchen. The sleeping area features two generously sized bedrooms (approximately 12 m² and 14 m²), a shower room with toilet, and a covered courtyard currently used as a laundry area. Additional features include a large garage box accommodating two cars in tandem, a cellar, and a pleasant southeast-facing private garden. Technical features: individual gas boiler, aluminium window frames (to be replaced), non-compliant electrical installation, individual gas and electricity meters, and a shared water meter with a submeter. EPC rating: E. Key assets: independent entrance, strong renovation potential, small co-ownership with no common charges, large garage, and a well-oriented private garden. Offers starting from €249,000, subject to acceptance by the owners. Interested in a viewing? Contact us. Want to know more?

Discover this practical single-floor apartment in Grimbergen, ideal for own occupation or as an investment. Upon entering the apartment you enter the entrance hall, which gives access to the bright living room. Following this are the dining area and the kitchen. Furthermore, the apartment has a separate toilet, two bedrooms and a bathroom. Both the living space and the bedrooms enjoy beautiful natural light. There is also a cozy garden, ideal for unwinding, and a garage, so parking is never a problem. The apartment could be lightly refreshed, but offers a very functional and pleasant layout. The apartment is currently rented at €1,000/month and becomes vacant on 01/04/2026, which also makes it interesting for investors. A practical and quiet apartment with great potential. EPC attest 20251204-0003734040-RES-1 with a score of 650kWh/year - Label F - This property may be subject to the renovation obligation imposed by the Flemish government for residential buildings. For more information, consult the website of the Flemish Energy and Climate Agency at vlaanderen.be. P-score: D, G-score: D Urban planning information in request For more information do not hesitate to contact Danté at ### Want to know more?

150 metres from Brussels, we offer this very attractive 2-bedroom duplex of 100 m² (according to the EPC), located on the top floor (with lift) of a small co-ownership building. It is composed as follows: entrance hall, separate toilet, beautiful living room with recent open-plan kitchen, bedroom. Upstairs: lovely shower room with toilet and a large bedroom. Cellar in the basement. Provision for ordinary charges (heating + water included): €276/month (€214/month after the 2025 statement), reserve fund: €69/month. Information and visits: RESIDENCY ### Want to know more?

VALIMMAS verkoopt in het centrum van Asse dit verzorgde en direct instapklare hoekappartement op de derde verdieping (met lift). Het appartement bestaat uit een inkomhal met vestiairekast, een toilet, een ruime living, een ingerichte keuken, een badkamer met douche, en twee slaapkamers. Inclusief een kelder en het gebruik van de gemeenschappelijke fietsenberging. Hoekappartement = veel lichtinval ! Gelegen in de onmiddellijke nabijheid van winkels, scholen, Markt, bushalte en station. Mobiscore 8,6/10. Want to know more?

This ground floor apartment located at Wolvertemsesteenweg 98 001 in Grimbergen offers an exceptional opportunity for those seeking an affordable home or a promising investment. Priced at €249,000, this property provides approximately 75 m² of living space within a small-scale residence characterized by limited communal charges. Built in 1958, the apartment is currently available for occupation upon deed transfer and requires some refreshing, presenting a canvas to tailor it to your personal taste and needs. Inside, the apartment comprises a welcoming entrance hall leading into a bright living room, complemented by a kitchen and one spacious bedroom. The presence of a single bathroom and separate toilet ensures practical convenience. A storage room adds to the functionality of the space. One of the apartment’s key features is the veranda adjoining the living area, which opens onto an outdoor garden and terrace. This extension of living space allows for comfortable year-round enjoyment of the outdoors, enhancing the property’s appeal. Heating is gas-powered, and the electrical installation is certified in compliance with current standards. The front facade of the building faces northeast, and the apartment enjoys three exterior walls across two floors. Situated in the residential area of Grimbergen, this property benefits from good accessibility to Brussels while being set in a tranquil environment. The building is not equipped with a lift but stands in a designated residential zone free from pre-emptive rights or flood risks. The EPC rating is marked by a specific primary energy consumption of 326 kWh/m²/year. Whether you are looking for a first home or a reliable investment in this sought-after location, this apartment offers considerable potential. For further information or to arrange a visit, please contact us at ### or via ### . Want to know more?

This exceptional penthouse apartment, located in the heart of Scherpenheuvel-Zichem at Diestsestraat 11-13, offers an outstanding living experience within the exclusive “Basiliek” residence. Priced at €575,000, this newly built property spans 122 square metres of bright and spacious living space on the third floor of a modern, six-apartment building. The apartment features three bedrooms, one bathroom, and one toilet, complemented by multiple terraces that provide open views and ample outdoor space. Designed with three facades, the unit benefits from natural light and privacy, making it a unique gem in this boutique development. Quality and comfort have been primary focuses throughout the construction of this residence. Equipped with a heat pump and double glazing, the apartment meets high energy efficiency standards for sustainable living. A lift services all floors, ensuring easy access, while a secured intercom system adds convenience. The building includes an underground level offering nine parking spaces and private storage units available for purchase. The interior also boasts a sizable budget allocated for a high-quality kitchen installation and custom-built wardrobes valued at €3,000, enhancing both functionality and style within the home. Situated within walking distance of the renowned Basilica of Scherpenheuvel, this residence benefits from a prime location surrounded by green spaces, shops, restaurants, and public transport options. Despite its central position, the environment remains calm and peaceful, ideal for those seeking a balanced urban lifestyle. The property is not currently rented and is sold under VAT conditions. For further information or to arrange a viewing of this outstanding penthouse in Scherpenheuvel-Zichem, please contact us at ### or visit ### This is a rare opportunity to acquire a top-tier home in a small-scale, quality development with modern amenities and excellent living comfort. Want to know more?

This spacious and energy-efficient apartment with an EPC label B is a remarkable opportunity to acquire a well-appointed residence in Heverlee, offered at €545,000. Located on the second floor of the intimate "De Speelman" building at Kardinaal Mercierlaan 10, this 150 m² property combines comfort and practicality with a thoughtful layout. The apartment features a generous living area of approximately 56 m² adorned with parquet flooring and large windows that fill the space with natural light while offering views of Kardinaal Mercierlaan. The living room opens onto a 5 m² terrace, providing an inviting outdoor extension of the home. Complementing the living space is a large separate kitchen, perfect for culinary activities, alongside three spacious bedrooms measuring 21 m², 18 m², and 12 m² respectively, and a well-sized bathroom of 10 m². Additional functionality comes from a wide entrance hall equipped with built-in wardrobes, a separate toilet, and practical storage options. The apartment includes notable amenities such as double glazing, individual gas heating, and is asbest-safe, ensuring safety and energy efficiency. Accessibility is enhanced by a lift serving the building’s four floors. Included in the price is a private garage box of 34 m² with an automatic door situated in the rear part of the building, along with an 8 m² cellar with direct lift access. There is also space for a second car parking spot outside the garage. Built in 1966, this residential property maintains good condition and is immediately available for occupancy. The cadastral income stands at €1,470, and no VAT applies to the purchase. The apartment is not currently rented, offering flexibility for immediate personal use or investment. Situated in Heverlee, this apartment benefits from a prime location close to local amenities such as the Heverlee market and main grocery stores. The Arenbergpark lies nearby, providing green leisure spaces, while important regional hubs like IMEC and Gasthuisberg are easily reachable by bicycle or public transit. This residence is ideal for buyers seeking a combination of urban convenience and comfortable living in a well-regarded residential area. For further information or to arrange a viewing, please contact the listing agent at ### or via email at ### . Additional documentation including EPC certificates and property details can be downloaded from the agency’s website. Don’t miss this opportunity to secure a quality apartment in Heverlee with excellent facilities and location advantages. Want to know more?

This modern apartment for sale is situated at Wolvertemsesteenweg 30 1.2 in Merchtem, offered at a price of 323,000 €. Built in 2017 within a small-scale residence, the property combines contemporary comfort with a central location. It offers a bright living room featuring an open, fully equipped kitchen covering 36.14 m², opening directly onto a south-facing terrace measuring approximately 6.65 m², complete with a sunshade. The apartment includes two bedrooms sized 11.60 m² and 7.89 m² respectively, a bathroom with both a shower and bathtub, a separate toilet, and a practical storage space. The total living area amounts to 88 m², with the living room itself offering 37 m². The property is located on the first floor of a three-storey building with three facades ensuring ample natural light. Additional highlights include an underground parking space (number 10) available for purchase at 22,000 €, and the apartment benefits from a gas heating system installed in 2021 with a condensing boiler. The electrical installation has been certified as compliant, contributing to the excellent energy performance rating of EPC label A, with a specific primary energy consumption of 94 kWh/m²/year valid until February 2034. Monthly communal charges are estimated at approximately 118 €, while general maintenance costs are around 90 €. This property is not subject to any pre-emption rights or administrative measures in the local register, and it is located in a residential urban zone free from flood risk. Merchtem offers a peaceful yet accessible living environment for those seeking quality housing within Flanders. This apartment’s location provides convenient access to local amenities, making it suitable for owner-occupiers or investors alike. The south orientation of the main facade and terrace ensures pleasant sunlight throughout the day. For further details or to arrange a viewing appointment, interested parties are invited to contact the agency via ### or by phone at ### This is an excellent opportunity to acquire a contemporary home in Merchtem at an attractive price point with certified energy efficiency and all modern conveniences. Want to know more?

UITZONDERLIJK INVESTERINGSDOSSIER met gegarandeerd huurrendement! LEEMANS IMMOBILIËN stelt u volgende opbrengsteigendom voor, uitermate gunstig gelegen op wandelafstand van het centrum van Zellik. Gelijkvloers: 2 afgesloten garages (garage 1: 49m2 / voor 2 wagens en garage 2: 18m2 / voor 1 wagen). Tevens zijn er nog 2 buitenstaanplaatsen. Ruime inkomhal en 2 afzonderlijke kelderbergingen + een gemeenschappelijk tellerlokaal. 1ste verdiep: appartement 1 (114,00m2 bew. oppervlakte) bestaande uit: een inkomhal, afzonderlijke watercloset, ruime leefruimte, keuken, 2 slaapkamers, badkamer en veranda evenals een mooie privatieve tuin met terras. EPC: C (287 kWh/(m2 jaar) - Asbestveilig - CV aardgas (individueel). 2de verdiep: appartement 2 (95m2 bew. oppervlakte) bestaande uit: een inkomhal, afzonderlijke watercloset, ruime leefruimte, keuken, 2 slaapkamers, badkamer en terras. EPC: B (200 kWh/(m2 jaar) - Asbestveilig - CV aardgas (individueel). 3de verdiep: studio (40m2 bewoonbare oppervlakte) bestaande uit: ruime leefruimte met open keuken en slaaphoek, afzonderlijke badkamer met watercloset. Asbestveilig - elektrische acc. Alle entiteiten zijn momenteel verhuurd (3 busnummers afgeleverd -vergunningstoestand studio momenteel in onderzoek). PRIMA HUUR RENDEMENT. PLANNEN EN INLICHTINGEN BESCHIKBAAR OP KANTOOR. BEZOEKEN OP AFSPRAAK: ### - ### Want to know more?

Superbe appartement duplex immédiatement habitable avec 2 chambres et grenier aménagé, idéalement situé au centre de Teralfene. Grâce à sa situation centrale, commerces, écoles et transports en commun se trouvent à proximité immédiate. Les gares de Liedekerke et Denderleeuw ainsi que l’accès à l’E40 à Affligem sont facilement accessibles. L’appartement fait partie d’une petite copropriété construite en 2005 et offre une disposition pratique et confortable. Le premier étage comprend un hall d’entrée avec toilette séparée, un lumineux séjour avec cuisine ouverte, un débarras pratique et une agréable terrasse avec vue dégagée. Le deuxième étage se compose de deux chambres et d’une salle de bains. La seconde chambre dispose également d’un escalier fixe menant à un grenier entièrement aménagé pouvant servir de chambre supplémentaire, bureau ou espace hobby. Il est possible d'acheter séparément un emplacement couvert (ce n'est pas obligatoire). L’installation électrique est conforme et le bien bénéficie d’un excellent PEB B. Grâce au caractère intimiste de l’immeuble, les charges mensuelles restent limitées (+- 74euro/mois). Vous souhaitez plus d’informations ou une visite ? N’hésitez pas à nous contacter via ### Want to know more?

This exceptional apartment for sale is located in the heart of Leuven at Marrainenplein 8, offering a spacious and modern living environment spread over the third and fourth floors of a well-maintained building constructed in 2009. Featuring a total living area of 165 m², the property boasts four bedrooms, including a master bedroom of 20 m² and three additional bedrooms each measuring 12 m². The apartment also includes two bathrooms, one of which is approximately 4 m² in size, a separate laundry room, and a storage area. Designed with comfort and functionality in mind, this residence benefits from multiple terraces totaling 34 m², allowing residents to enjoy outdoor space with pleasant views over the Dijle river and Leuven’s city center. The apartment is equipped with gas heating, double glazing, a lift, and an intercom system for added convenience and security. The property’s layout is thoughtfully divided across two floors connected by an internal staircase. On the third floor, you enter into a welcoming hallway with a separate toilet and find four bedrooms with built-in wardrobes, two bathrooms, a laundry room, and storage spaces. One of the bedrooms opens onto a terrace that adds to the apartment’s appeal. The fourth floor houses a second entrance hall with another separate toilet, as well as the main living area. This includes an open-plan fully equipped kitchen that flows into a spacious living room, which in turn grants access to the large terrace overlooking the city and river. This design creates an airy and versatile living space ideal for families or those who enjoy generous room proportions combined with practical amenities. The building has been well cared for and offers excellent energy efficiency with an EPC rating of 109 kWh/m²/year (B-label), and its electrical installation is certified compliant. Situated in Leuven’s residential zone, this apartment is offered at the price of €660,000. The cadastral income is listed at €1,742, and there is no VAT applicable on this sale. A private underground parking space is available for an additional cost of €30,000 if desired. The location provides a quiet setting while being close to central Leuven’s amenities, blending urban convenience with tranquility. For anyone interested in discovering more about this remarkable property or arranging a viewing, professional contact can be made through the email ### or by phone at ### Additional documentation such as EPC certificates and legal attestations are accessible through the listing on the agent’s website. This apartment represents an outstanding opportunity to acquire spacious, contemporary living space in one of Belgium’s most vibrant university cities. Want to know more?