Apartment for sale - West Flanders (Province) (page 4)

This move-in-ready studio is located on the first floor of building 20 in the Green Garden residence, just a stone’s throw from the centre of De Haan.The property includes an entrance hall/sleeping area, a bathroom with toilet, a living room with open kitchen, and a terrace. The domain offers several bicycle storage areas, a fully renovated outdoor swimming pool, and a central location close to both the beach and the town centre.Surface areas are indicative in accordance with the EPC certificate.For more information or to schedule a visit, please contact Anthony van Wijk at ### or by email at ### . Do you have a property you would like to sell? We would be happy to assist you with our expertise and provide a free valuation. Want to know more?

This sunny corner apartment is located on the second floor of building 4 in the Green Garden residence. Thanks to its southern orientation and its location in one of the most beautiful corners of the domain, you can enjoy plenty of natural light and a pleasant view.The apartment comprises an entrance hall, two bedrooms, a bathroom, a separate toilet, a living room with open kitchen, dining area and lounge, as well as a terrace. The domain offers several bicycle storage areas, a fully renovated outdoor swimming pool and a central location close to both the beach and the town centre.Surface areas are indicative in accordance with the EPC certificate. For more information or to schedule a visit, please contact Anthony van Wijk at ### or by email at ### . Do you have a property you would like to sell? We would be delighted to assist you with our expertise and provide you with a free valuation. Want to know more?

Discover this exceptional opportunity to acquire a modern, turnkey apartment in the charming town of Ruddervoorde, perfectly situated in the heart of the community. Priced at €235,000, this property offers an attractive investment potential or a comfortable home for those seeking a contemporary living space. Built in 2025, this new-build apartment showcases high-quality, durable materials, and benefits from the latest energy-efficient features, including double glazing and gas central heating. The residence is part of the 'Syslo' development, situated on the ground floor, and offers a generous living environment with a total living area of 75 square meters. This apartment features two spacious bedrooms, providing ample space for family life or guests, along with a well-appointed bathroom equipped with a shower and modern lavabomeubel. The open-plan living room with a kitchen enhances the sense of space and light, creating an inviting atmosphere for everyday living or entertaining. Beyond the interior, residents can enjoy a private terrace that leads to a charming backyard garden, oriented to the north, ideal for outdoor relaxation or gardening. Practical storage is catered for with a dedicated storage room, while a separate toilet adds to the convenience. This property also includes access to a personal parking space behind the building and a shared bicycle storage facility, making daily commutes and leisure activities straightforward. Located in Ruddervoorde, this residence benefits from a prime position within walking distance of essential amenities such as supermarkets, healthcare providers, sports complexes, and other services that enhance everyday convenience. The surrounding environment is characterized by peaceful residential areas within a well-maintained and thriving community. The property’s zoning as residential ensures a quiet, family-friendly atmosphere, with no flood risk or overflooding concerns nearby. With its excellent location, modern construction standards, and attractive price point, this apartment is suitable both as a primary residence and as an investment property for rental purposes. For those interested in exploring this unique opportunity further, professional contact details are available for scheduling a visit and obtaining additional information on this promising real estate offering. Want to know more?

Discover this charming one-bedroom apartment located on the first floor of the well-maintained Nieuw Helmond residence, situated in the vibrant heart of Oostende. With an inviting living room that benefits from abundant natural light and a separate kitchen, this property offers a comfortable and functional layout. The living space opens onto a pleasant terrace, which provides direct access to the peaceful communal rooftop garden, creating an ideal outdoor retreat in the midst of a lively city environment. Behind the living area is the bedroom, offering a tranquil space to unwind after a day exploring the seaside town. Thanks to its serene and green surroundings, residents can enjoy the tranquility of a quiet urban oasis while remaining within walking distance of essential amenities, including shops, restaurants, public transportation, and the beach. Built in 2006, this apartment combines modern comfort with practicality, featuring double-glazed windows for energy efficiency, electric heating, and a recent EPC score of 159 kWh/m²/year. The residence also includes a bicycle storage area and is equipped with audio intercom and lift facilities, enhancing convenience for everyday living. Located in Oostende, this property embodies the perfect blend of city life and seaside relaxation. The apartment's strategic position ensures that residents can fully enjoy the coastal lifestyle, with all necessary services and leisure options just steps away. The apartment's interior encompasses approximately 48 square meters of living space, including an 11-square-meter bedroom and a bright 21-square-meter main living area. The bathroom covers about 5 square meters and is fitted with modern fixtures. The orientated southeast garden and terrace, measuring approximately 7 square meters, invite outdoor enjoyment and are connected to water supply for added convenience. The building’s construction adheres to legal standards, with no flood risk and clearly designated residential zoning. The property is currently not rented out, making it an excellent choice either as a holiday retreat or secondary residence by the sea. Priced at €215,000, this apartment offers exceptional value for its location and features. The absence of VAT simplifies the purchasing process for prospective buyers. With low running costs and a well-maintained infrastructure, it presents an attractive opportunity for those seeking a comfortable seaside residence in Oostende. Whether you are looking for a vacation home or a permanent base near the coast, this property provides an excellent foundation. Don’t miss the chance to own this remarkable apartment—schedule your visit today and explore the potential of seaside living in Oostende. Contact us to arrange a viewing or for more information about this unique opportunity to acquire a cozy yet modern residence in one of Belgium’s most desirable coastal towns. Want to know more?

Deze charmante, volledig ingerichte studio biedt het perfecte toevluchtsoord aan de kust. Gelegen in een groene en rustige buitenwijk van Blankenberge, bevindt ze zich op wandelafstand van de zeedijk en het strand. De praktische indeling en het complete meubilair zorgen voor een comfortabel en zorgeloos verblijf. De rustige ligging biedt een oase van rust, terwijl alle nodige voorzieningen vlot bereikbaar zijn. Het private terras maakt het plaatje compleet en is de ideale plek om van de zeelucht te genieten. Daarnaast is deze studio momenteel verhuurd voor €650 per maand, wat het een interessante investeringskans maakt. Optioneel is er ook een staanplaats aan te kopen voor €15.000. Pending legal proceedings: No / Site of untapped activity: Yes Want to know more?

Discover this exceptional investment opportunity or your first step into homeownership with this charming studio for sale in Roeselare. Located at Rumbeeksesteenweg 262 A 11, this property offers an ideal combination of modern comfort and a prime central location. Priced at €112,500, this well-presented studio presents a lucrative option for both investors seeking a rental property with a gross yield of 5.3% and young buyers looking for an easily accessible and fully renovated home. The property is not only affordable but also boasts recent upgrades, including a complete renovation in 2024, and features that cater to contemporary living standards. Situated on the fourth and top floor of a building constructed in 1977, this 33 m² living space benefits from ample natural light and spectacular panoramic views from its two spacious roof terraces. The interior layout of the studio is thoughtfully designed to maximize space within a compact setting. Upon entering through a well-maintained entrance hall with elevator access, residents or tenants are greeted by a bright, open-plan living and sleeping area. The space seamlessly integrates a modern, brand-new open kitchen equipped with essential appliances such as a cooktop, range hood, and sink. From this central area, you can step directly onto two generous terraces—measuring 23 m² and 15 m² respectively—each offering breathtaking views and abundant sunlight throughout the day. The south-facing orientation ensures optimal sunlight exposure, enhancing the overall living experience. The bathroom has been stylishly renovated with contemporary finishes and includes a shower, washbasin, and toilet, providing all necessary amenities within a sleek, functional space. This well-maintained property is also compliant with electrical safety standards until 2049, asbestos-free, and features modernized lift infrastructure completed in 2023, ensuring ease of access and safety for all occupants. Situated in a vibrant and convenient neighborhood, this property benefits from close proximity to shops, bakeries, butchers, schools, and various local amenities. Its central location offers excellent accessibility to public services and transportation links, making it an attractive choice whether you are starting your property portfolio or seeking a comfortable city base. The apartment’s compact yet functional design, combined with its appealing outdoor spaces and recent upgrades, makes it a truly compelling option. For investors, the project promises attractive rental yields with minimal maintenance thanks to its recent modernization and compliance certifications. If you are interested in exploring this opportunity further or scheduling a visit, contact us today to secure this fantastic property in Roeselare—an excellent investment or home that combines value, comfort, and location seamlessly. Want to know more?

Discover this charming and spacious apartment located in the heart of Nieuwpoort, offering an excellent opportunity for those seeking comfortable seaside living or a lively yet peaceful residence. Priced at €219,000, this property presents an attractive option for buyers looking to invest in a well-situated real estate asset within this renowned coastal town. With a total living surface area of 203 square meters, this apartment is positioned on the first floor of a small-scale residential building, providing convenient access without an elevator. It features two bedrooms, a single bathroom equipped with gas heating and double-glazed windows, and a bright, open-plan living space that benefits from natural light. The kitchen is fully functional and seamlessly connected to the living room, creating an ideal environment for relaxation or gatherings with friends and family. Additionally, the apartment includes a terrace for outdoor enjoyment and a garage, offering both practicality and comfort. Situated in the lively centre of Nieuwpoort, this property benefits from proximity to local amenities such as shops, restaurants, and public transportation, making daily life effortless and convenient. The neighborhood is not prone to flooding and is not located within a protected environmental zone, ensuring peace of mind for future homeowners. The residence is not equipped with an elevator nor adapted for disabled access; however, its manageable layout and the presence of a garage add to its overall appeal. The property has been certified with basic energy usage documentation showing a primary energy consumption of 525 kWh/m²/year and lacks specific electrical installation certificates. This well-maintained apartment offers an excellent balance of location, comfort, and value, making it suitable for both primary residence or secondary seaside retreat. If you are interested in this property or wish to explore further details, we encourage you to contact us today. Whether you are looking to establish a permanent home or secure a charming pied-à-terre by the sea, this apartment in Nieuwpoort presents an exceptional opportunity. Arrange a viewing or request additional information to experience firsthand what this delightful property has to offer. Our team is ready to assist you in making this desirable residence your new address on the Belgian coast. Want to know more?

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Discover this promising ground floor property for sale in the charming seaside town of Blankenberge. Priced at €149,000, this unit presents a fantastic opportunity for renovation enthusiasts looking to create a personalized home or investment property in a vibrant coastal setting. Situated at Graaf Jansdijk 16 GLV, the apartment offers a living space of approximately 80 square meters, providing a comfortable and practical layout that can be tailored to meet modern living standards. With one bedroom and two bathrooms, this property is designed to accommodate diverse needs, whether as a primary residence, holiday home, or rental investment. This property features essential comforts such as double-glazed windows for energy efficiency and gas heating to ensure comfort throughout the year. The building comprises six floors, and this particular unit is located on the ground floor, facilitating easy access and convenience. While requiring renovation, the apartment is structurally sound with a good energy score of A, indicating potential for substantial improvements and modernization. It also benefits from a security intercom system for added safety and privacy. Notably, the property does not include an elevator or accessibility features for persons with reduced mobility, which should be considered during renovation planning. Blankenberge’s lively atmosphere, proximity to the beach, and excellent amenities make it an attractive location for both residents and investors. The property is not situated in a flood-prone area, and it is not part of a protected environment, offering peace of mind regarding environmental restrictions. The cadastral income of €763 and a monthly rental potential make this an appealing opportunity for investment-minded buyers. Whether you’re seeking to craft your ideal seaside retreat or expand your real estate portfolio, this property represents a compelling chance to establish a foothold in one of Belgium’s most beloved coastal towns. Contact us today to arrange a viewing or to learn more about this unique opportunity. Want to know more?

Discover this ready-to-move-in apartment located in Harelbeke — an ideal home for those looking for comfort, space, and quality. The apartment has been completely renovated and offers a modern, light-filled living space, a fully equipped kitchen connected to a practical storage room, two spacious bedrooms, a stylish bathroom with walk-in shower, and extra storage space and a garage on the ground floor. With an EPC label B, this apartment is also energy efficient and completely ready to move into. ADVANTAGES: Completely renovated, 2 spacious bedrooms, bathroom with walk-in shower, bright living room, fully equipped kitchen + storage room, garage and extra storage room downstairs, EPC B. Visit by appointment via ### Want to know more?

Voor meer informatie over deze woning, contacteer Marie Gouwy op ### Deze ruime studio biedt alles wat je nodig hebt voor comfortabel wonen op een unieke locatie. De indeling omvat een leefruimte met grote raampartijen, een keuken, een kamer die kan dienen als dressing, bureau, berging of slaapkamer, een badkamer en een apart toilet. De leefruimte sluit aan op een ruim terras, waar je kunt genieten van het prachtige uitzicht op de Wellington Golf, de thermen en de paardenrenbaan. Dankzij de twee ingangen — één aan de straatkant en één aan de zeedijk — is de studio vlot bereikbaar en uiterst praktisch. Bovendien geniet je van veel lichtinval en bevind je je vlakbij winkels, Kinepolis en andere voorzieningen. Deze eigendom is ideaal als investering voor verhuur of vakantieverhuur, maar ook perfect geschikt als tweede verblijf aan de kust. Stedenbouwkundige inlichtingen in aanvraag sinds 23/10/2025. Want to know more?

Discover this exceptional opportunity in Koekelare with this beautifully renovated apartment listed at €229,000. Situated at Ichtegemstraat 16, this property offers a perfect blend of modern comfort and energy efficiency within a peaceful setting. The apartment has been completely renovated, reflecting contemporary design and high-quality finishes, making it an attractive choice for those seeking a stylish and sustainable home. The renovation includes a fully updated kitchen and bathroom, ensuring a move-in ready experience for its new owners. Equipped with energy-saving features such as solar panels and triple glazing, the property boasts an EPC label A and an energy consumption of 554 kWh/m² per year, underlining its commitment to sustainability. The apartment’s layout comprises two bedrooms within 87 square meters of living space, providing versatility for families or professionals looking for a comfortable residence. Additional highlights include modern air conditioning for optimal comfort, a garage with a sectional door, and access to a communal garden and terrace, perfect for outdoor leisure and relaxation. Located in the serene environment of Koekelare, this residence benefits from a peaceful yet accessible neighborhood. The property is situated in a residential zone with no overflows or environmental restrictions, ensuring peace of mind for future residents. Built in 1977, the building has been maintained to modern standards with approved electrical systems and triple-glazed windows that enhance insulation and energy efficiency. The apartment is currently available for immediate possession upon signing the deed, making it an ideal purchase for those looking to settle quickly into their new home. Its strategic location offers convenient access to local amenities and services, all while enjoying the tranquility of residential Koekelare. The property’s thoughtful upgrades and prime positioning make it a compelling choice for discerning buyers seeking quality, comfort, and sustainability. If you are interested in this remarkable apartment or wish to schedule a viewing, do not hesitate to contact us. Our team is ready to assist you in exploring this unique property further and guiding you through the purchasing process. With its combination of modern renovations, energy efficiency, and prime location, this apartment represents a fantastic investment in Koekelare’s real estate market. Reach out today to discover more details and take the next step toward your new home. Want to know more?

Discover this charming ground-floor apartment located in the heart of Roeselare, offering an ideal combination of comfort, practicality, and central convenience. Priced at €165,000, this property presents an excellent opportunity for buyers seeking a move-in-ready residence within a vibrant urban setting. Situated at Désiré Mergaertstraat 4, 8800 Roeselare, this apartment benefits from its prime location within walking distance of the town's main shopping street and Geitenpark, providing both accessibility and leisure options. Its central position ensures easy access to local amenities, shops, and public services, making it an appealing choice for those looking to enjoy the lively Roeselare lifestyle without sacrificing comfort. This spacious, ground-floor apartment encompasses a total living area of approximately 93 m². It features a welcoming entrance hall leading into a large living room that provides ample space for relaxation and entertaining. The fully equipped kitchen is designed for practicality and convenience, complemented by a separate storage room and laundry area that enhance everyday living. The accommodation comprises two well-sized bedrooms, ideal for families or individuals needing extra space, alongside a modern bathroom fitted with a bathtub, double sink, and toilet. The apartment also includes two toilets, adding to its functionality. An outdoor terrace offers a private outdoor area, perfect for enjoying fresh air during warmer months. Furthermore, the property benefits from a dedicated underground garage parking spot, which is available for an additional €20,000, providing secure parking and peace of mind in this busy urban environment. Built in 1994 and currently unoccupied, this property is presented in excellent condition and is ready for immediate occupation. Its energy performance certificate (EPC) indicates a favorable label C, with an energy consumption of 285 kWh/m² per year—ensuring reasonable running costs. The apartment is heated electrically and features double-glazed windows, enhancing its energy efficiency. Although it does not have air conditioning or an elevator, the layout’s accessibility on the ground floor makes it suitable for most residents. Surrounded by residential areas designated for living use, this property is neither located in an overrun flood area nor within protected zones, adding peace of mind regarding its location. The building’s construction has been maintained well over the years, and the absence of a balcony maintains a clean, straightforward design that maximizes interior space. If you are seeking a centrally located, move-in-ready apartment in Roeselare that combines comfort with practicality at an attractive price point, this property warrants serious consideration. Contact us today to arrange a viewing or to receive further details about this exceptional opportunity. Whether you are looking for a spacious residence or an investment property in Roeselare’s vibrant community, this apartment offers a compelling option with its excellent location and comprehensively equipped interior. Don’t miss your chance to own a piece of Roeselare’s lively urban landscape—schedule your visit today and explore all that this property has to offer. Want to know more?

Goed onderhouden appartement op wandelafstand van allerlei faciliteiten, bestaande uit een inkomhal met vestiaire en afzonderlijk toilet, een lichtrijke leefruimte met eet- en zithoek en open zicht, een uitgeruste keuken met aanpalende berging, twee volwaardige slaapkamers, een ingerichte badkamer (ligbad, lavabo en aansluiting voor wasmachine), een klein terras en een garage met sectionale poort die kan worden bijgekocht voor €20.000 . Extra troeven: Energiezuinig (Label – C) Conforme keuring elektriciteit Lichtrijke leefruimte Lift aanwezig Private kelderberging Op wandelafstand van scholen, winkels, station en het centrum Dit appartement is te koop ZONDER makelaar via het concept van Smart Houses ! Wenst u verdere inlichtingen of bezoek? Contacteer rechtstreeks de eigenaar via ### Want to know more?

Discover a charming opportunity in the heart of Kortrijk with this spacious apartment listed at €210,000. Situated at Rijselsestraat 40, this property offers a blend of authentic character and practical living space. Boasting a generous living area of approximately 99 square meters, this apartment features two comfortable bedrooms that provide ample room for relaxation and personal comfort. The apartment’s layout benefits from a corner position, allowing an abundance of natural light to flood the interior through numerous windows, creating a bright and inviting atmosphere. The original parquet flooring and white marble in the kitchen and bathroom add a touch of elegance and timeless appeal, making this apartment a unique find in the local market. The property, built in 1968, is currently in need of renovation, presenting a fantastic opportunity for buyers to customize and modernize according to their tastes and needs. It includes a functional kitchen equipped with space for a small breakfast table and leads out to a cozy terrace—perfect for enjoying outdoor moments or a morning coffee. The apartment also comes with practical amenities such as a lift, ensuring ease of access, along with a dedicated parking space and cellar storage, which add significant convenience for daily living. Heating is provided via oil (mazout), and while the current energy certificate indicates an energy consumption of 157 kWh/m²/year, prospective buyers should consider the potential for energy improvements. Located just steps from Kortrijk’s vibrant Grote Markt and the train station, this property offers excellent connectivity and access to the city’s lively square, shops, restaurants, and public transportation. The neighborhood’s dynamic atmosphere makes it ideal for those seeking both urban convenience and a touch of authenticity. Given its current condition, the apartment is available for occupancy upon signing the deed, making it suitable for investors or homeowners eager to create their ideal living space. With its blend of historic charm and practical features, this property represents a compelling opportunity in Kortrijk’s real estate market. Contact us today to arrange a viewing and take the first step toward making this unique apartment your new home. Want to know more?

strong>Blankenberge: Unique 1 bedroom apartment on prime location for sale At only 2 minutes walking distance from the market square and 5 minutes from the beach, you will find this bright apartment. With its central location, this apartment offers the best of Blankenberge within reach: the sea, lively stores and excellent public transport connections. Located on the second floor of Residence Nouvella, you will enjoy a stylish living experience with an open layout and a spacious terrace. This apartment is accessible via both the stairwell and a convenient elevator, ensuring comfort and convenience. Layout: Fourth floor: an open living space consisting of a bright living room, cozy dining room and fully equipped kitchen. Fifth floor: a spacious bedrooms with bathroom Advantages: Walking distance to the sea, beach, cozy stores and public transport and parking. Favorable EPC label A: energy efficient and sustainable. Lower purchase price thanks to the system of long lease on the land share. The sale of the land share is under the system of long lease. This makes it an exceptional opportunity for those looking for affordable luxury in a unique location. Offered with 1 year ERA COMFORT GUARANTEE Need more information? Contact Guilliano at ### Want to know more?

In the quiet and family-friendly Het Heldenkwartier subdivision, on the border of Roeselare and Hooglede, Hectaar is developing 4 modern stacked homes. They combine contemporary architecture with a family-oriented environment and excellent accessibility. Moreover, schools, hospitals, shops, and recreational facilities are within easy reach — ideal for both young families and active seniors.You can choose between a ground-floor stacked home with two bedrooms and a garden, or an upper-floor stacked home with one or two bedrooms and a cozy terrace.These stacked homes not only guarantee comfortable and quality living but also represent a smart investment. Thanks to their location in a rapidly developing neighborhood, the high demand on the local rental market, and sustainable, energy-efficient construction, this project offers stable and future-proof added value for investors.Additional benefits: Worry-free and sustainable heating via the heat network Underfloor heating 5,000L rainwater tank — connected to toilets, washing machine, and outdoor tap (if applicable) Private parking space included Delivery is scheduled for August 2026.Contact us today for more information or to schedule a viewing appointment on-site. Want to know more?

In the quiet and family-friendly Het Heldenkwartier subdivision, on the border of Roeselare and Hooglede, Hectaar is developing 4 modern stacked homes. They combine contemporary architecture with a family-oriented environment and excellent accessibility. Moreover, schools, hospitals, shops, and recreational facilities are within easy reach — ideal for both young families and active seniors.You can choose between a ground-floor stacked home with two bedrooms and a garden, or an upper-floor stacked home with one or two bedrooms and a cozy terrace.These stacked homes not only guarantee comfortable and quality living but also represent a smart investment. Thanks to their location in a rapidly developing neighborhood, the high demand on the local rental market, and sustainable, energy-efficient construction, this project offers stable and future-proof added value for investors.Additional benefits: Worry-free and sustainable heating via the heat network Underfloor heating 5,000L rainwater tank — connected to toilets, washing machine, and outdoor tap (if applicable) Private parking space included Delivery is scheduled for August 2026.Contact us today for more information or to schedule a viewing appointment on-site. Want to know more?

In the quiet and family-friendly Het Heldenkwartier subdivision, on the border of Roeselare and Hooglede, Hectaar is developing 4 modern stacked homes. They combine contemporary architecture with a family-oriented environment and excellent accessibility. Moreover, schools, hospitals, shops, and recreational facilities are within easy reach — ideal for both young families and active seniors.You can choose between a ground-floor stacked home with two bedrooms and a garden, or an upper-floor stacked home with one or two bedrooms and a cozy terrace.These stacked homes not only guarantee comfortable and quality living but also represent a smart investment. Thanks to their location in a rapidly developing neighborhood, the high demand on the local rental market, and sustainable, energy-efficient construction, this project offers stable and future-proof added value for investors.Additional benefits: Worry-free and sustainable heating via the heat network Underfloor heating 5,000L rainwater tank — connected to toilets, washing machine, and outdoor tap (if applicable) Private parking space included Delivery is scheduled for August 2026.Contact us today for more information or to schedule a viewing appointment on-site. Want to know more?

In the quiet and family-friendly Het Heldenkwartier subdivision, on the border of Roeselare and Hooglede, Hectaar is developing 4 modern stacked homes. They combine contemporary architecture with a family-oriented environment and excellent accessibility. Moreover, schools, hospitals, shops, and recreational facilities are within easy reach — ideal for both young families and active seniors.You can choose between a ground-floor stacked home with two bedrooms and a garden, or an upper-floor stacked home with one or two bedrooms and a cozy terrace.These stacked homes not only guarantee comfortable and quality living but also represent a smart investment. Thanks to their location in a rapidly developing neighborhood, the high demand on the local rental market, and sustainable, energy-efficient construction, this project offers stable and future-proof added value for investors.Additional benefits: Worry-free and sustainable heating via the heat network Underfloor heating 5,000L rainwater tank — connected to toilets, washing machine, and outdoor tap (if applicable) Private parking space included Delivery is scheduled for August 2026.Contact us today for more information or to schedule a viewing appointment on-site. Want to know more?