Apartment for sale - West Flanders (Province) (page 8)

This modern, energy-efficient apartment for sale in Sint-Andries offers a contemporary lifestyle combined with sustainable living solutions. Situated on the second floor of a newly constructed building completed in 2025, this spacious 81 m² unit features two bedrooms and one bathroom, designed with comfort and practicality in mind. The apartment boasts a bright and airy interior with an open kitchen that flows seamlessly into the generous living area, which opens onto a sunny terrace at the rear. Additional conveniences include a separate toilet, a storage/laundry room, and double-glazed windows across two facades, ensuring both tranquility and natural light throughout the day. The building itself is part of a carefully planned project comprising 14 well-lit apartments, each equipped with private terraces or gardens. The property benefits from state-of-the-art energy technologies such as a heat pump, floor heating, solar panels, and a ventilation system, all contributing to an exceptional energy performance rating of E30. Residents will appreciate the presence of two elevators in the building, intercom access for security, and the availability of 20 parking spaces at the rear, with each apartment required to purchase one dedicated parking spot. Additional options include acquiring a cellar storage unit and access to a bicycle storage facility. The apartment’s finishing can be tailored to your preferences, allowing you to select the kitchen, bathroom fittings, and flooring according to your personal taste. Located at Gistelse Steenweg 238 in the vibrant town of Sint-Andries, this property is ideally positioned within walking distance of essential amenities including shops, public transport, schools, and major roadways. The proximity to Bruges city center and nearby green spaces such as Tilleghem Forest and Koude Keuken enriches the living experience with both urban convenience and natural surroundings. Offered at €345,000 (excluding costs), this apartment is sold under the VAT regime, with the possibility of benefiting from a reduced rate of 6% VAT subject to conditions. For those seeking a stylish, sustainable home in a prime residential area, this property represents an excellent opportunity. Please contact us to arrange a viewing or to receive further information. Want to know more?

This commercial ground floor space for sale is situated in Sint-Andries at Gistelse Steenweg 238, offered at €200,000. Newly constructed in 2025, this property boasts a living area of 40 m² and presents an excellent opportunity for various professional uses such as a shop, office, or independent practice. The premises feature a prominent street-facing large display window ensuring maximum visibility along a busy commercial access road. The unit includes its own entrance, storage room, and toilet, designed to meet high energy efficiency standards with features like super-insulating double glazing, a heat pump, underfloor heating, ventilation system, and solar panels. Located on the ground floor of a modern building with three floors, the property benefits from two facades and access to essential amenities including water connection, a video intercom system, and two lifts serving the building. The project includes 20 outdoor parking spaces at the rear, with each apartment required to purchase a parking spot; this unit includes one parking place. Additionally, residents and users can acquire private cellar storage if desired. The building is situated within a residential urban zone and conforms to strict energy performance ratings (E-level 30), ensuring a sustainable and cost-effective environment. This property is part of an energy-efficient new-build project comprising 14 bright and spacious apartments ranging from 70 m² to 97 m² with private terraces or gardens and one to three bedrooms, although this listing concerns the commercial ground floor space exclusively. The site enjoys a top location in Sint-Andries within walking distance to all facilities, including shops, public transport, schools, Bruges city center, and nearby green spaces. The asking price of €200,000 is subject to VAT with potential eligibility for a reduced 6% VAT rate under certain conditions. Interested parties are invited to contact the seller for further information and to arrange a viewing in this outstanding commercial property opportunity. Want to know more?

Voor meer informatie over dit appartement of bezoek, contacteer Florence De Smedt op ### Dit 2-slaapkamerappartement biedt een uitstekende basis voor wie op zoek is naar een eigen woonst of een interessante investering. Het appartement bevindt zich in te renoveren staat waardoor je de mogelijkheid hebt om het volledig naar eigen smaak en wensen in te richten. De indeling is als volgt: de inkomhal die rechtstreeks uitgeeft op de leefruimte met open keuken. Vanuit de keuken is er toegang tot de badkamer. Verder beschikt het appartement over twee slaapkamers, waarvan één slaapkamer toegang biedt tot de overdekte koer. Daarnaast zijn er nog twee afzonderlijke bergruimtes en een apart toilet. Na renovatie is dit appartement bijzonder geschikt als vaste woonst of als investering voor langdurige verhuur. Op technisch vlak: - EPC: C - 211 kWh/m² jaar - Elektriciteit conform - Recente condensatieketel - Vaillant KI: 401,00 EUR Stedenbouwkundige inlichtingen: in aanvraag sinds 11/08/2026 Watertoets: P-score: D, G-score: D Want to know more?

This luxurious newly built apartment is now available for sale in Koksijde, offered at the price of €359,000. Situated on the third floor of the modern residence Isabella, completed in 2025, this stylish unit features a living area of 74 m² complemented by a spacious 9 m² sunny terrace. The apartment comprises two fully equipped bedrooms and one bathroom fitted with a double sink and shower. The interior layout includes an entrance hall, a guest toilet, and a storage room with washing machine connections. The open-plan living room with kitchen flows seamlessly onto the south-facing terrace, ideal for enjoying abundant natural light. The property benefits from high-quality finishes and state-of-the-art installations, including underfloor heating powered by an energy-efficient heat pump and double glazing throughout. The building is designed with optimal sound insulation to ensure privacy and tranquility in this small-scale residence of only nine apartments. Additionally, residents can take advantage of underground parking spaces and storage rooms. The apartment is fitted with modern conveniences such as an intercom system and elevator access. With an impressive energy score of A and a P-score of A, this home meets contemporary standards for sustainability and comfort. Located in the heart of Koksijde, the residence offers a perfect balance between proximity to the town centre’s shops, restaurants, and the beach, while maintaining a peaceful and private setting. The building benefits from full planning permission and is not situated in a flood risk area. Available immediately for occupancy, this apartment presents an exceptional opportunity to acquire a refined coastal home under 6% VAT conditions. For further information and to arrange a viewing, please contact Christian at ### Want to know more?

This bright and modern apartment for sale in Blankenberge offers an exceptional opportunity to own a seaside property with stunning ocean views. Situated on the fifth floor of a contemporary residence built in 1994, this 34 m² apartment features a spacious and luminous living room with direct access to a sunny terrace overlooking the sea. The layout includes an open and functional kitchen, one bathroom, and a separate bedroom area, creating a comfortable and practical living space. Additional conveniences such as double glazing, electric heating, and an intercom system enhance the apartment’s comfort and security. The building is equipped with a lift for ease of access, although it does not have facilities for disabled access. Located centrally on the Zeedijk at number 96-513, this property enjoys a prime position directly on the seawall, allowing residents to enjoy breathtaking sea views daily. Its proximity to the harbor, local shops, the lively town center, and public transport provides excellent convenience and lifestyle benefits. The apartment is sold under emphyteutic lease terms, which include a fiscal advantage making it an interesting investment option as well as a potential pied-à-terre by the sea. The energy performance certificate rates this property with a G-score A and P-score A, highlighting its good energy efficiency despite its coastal location. Offered at a price of €175,000, this apartment represents a unique chance to invest in Blankenberge’s sought-after coastal real estate market. Whether you are seeking a personal retreat by the sea or a valuable investment, this residence combines an attractive location with practical amenities. For more information or to arrange a visit, please contact Maarten at ### Don’t miss the opportunity to acquire this charming property with magnificent sea views in a vibrant seaside town. Want to know more?

Bright apartment with lateral sea view in the heart of Nieuwpoort-Bad. This well-maintained apartment, built in 2005, is ideally located in the vibrant centre of Nieuwpoort-Bad, within walking distance of the beach, shops and public transport. The terrace with lateral sea view and the presence of 3 bedrooms make this property an excellent choice for those looking to enjoy comfortable coastal living. The spacious living area connects seamlessly to the terrace and benefits from plenty of natural light. Located in a popular tourist area, this apartment offers easy access to everything Nieuwpoort-Bad has to offer. The property also benefits from an energy-efficient EPC label B. Main rooms: • Entrance hall with access to the different rooms • Bright living room with access to the terrace • Practical kitchen • Functional bathroom • Separate toilet • 3 full-sized bedrooms • Terrace with lateral sea view Highlights: • Lateral sea view and terrace • 3 bedrooms, ideal as family home or second residence • Prime location in the heart of Nieuwpoort-Bad Contact your ERA agent today to arrange a viewing. YOUR DREAM APARTMENT. FOUND! Want to know more?

For sale: well-maintained closed apartment in the heart of Oostduinkerke, just a short walk from the sea, dunes, and public transport. Built in 1965, this apartment offers a practical layout with two bedrooms and a side sea view. Located on Trumelet Faberstraat, you will enjoy a central position with shops, restaurants, and the beach within walking distance. With an EPC label B, it is energy-efficient and ready for comfortable living. Its proximity to public transport makes it perfect for easy commuting. Main rooms: • Living room with natural light and access to the terrace • Functional kitchen • Two quietly located bedrooms • Bathroom with shower and toilet • Entrance hall with additional toilet • Basement for extra storage • Terrace with side sea view Highlights: • Central location in Oostduinkerke, near beach and dunes • Side sea view from the terrace • Energy-efficient with EPC label B Contact your ERA agent today to arrange a viewing. YOUR DREAM APARTMENT. FOUND! Want to know more?

🏡 Beautiful 2-bedroom apartment 200 metres from the sea, with terrace and garage 📍 Koninklijke Baan – Yzzis residence Looking for an apartment close to the sea with two bedrooms and a spacious garage? This well-maintained, move-in-ready apartment is located on the 2nd floor of the Yzzis residence, a modern building constructed in 2004, just 200 metres from the sea. The apartment offers 67 m² of living space and comprises: • A spacious living room with dining and sitting areas • A terrace overlooking the Koninklijke Baan • A fitted kitchen with 4 ceramic hobs, integrated extractor hood, refrigerator and built-in combination oven • 2 spacious bedrooms, each with a wall unit and window • A bathroom with bathtub and washbasin • A separate laundry area • A storage room in the basement A garage is available on the other side of the street for an aditionnal 69000€. Key features ✅ Only 200 metres from the sea ✅ 2 bedrooms ✅ Terrace ✅ Spacious 17 m² garage ✅ Basement storage ✅ Lift in the building ✅ High-efficiency glazing ✅ Electric heating ✅ EPC: 149 kWh/m²/year ✅ P-score: A | G-score: A ✅ No renovation obligation Areas: 🏠 Apartment: 67 m² A practical, well-located apartment within easy walking distance of the sea, suitable as a permanent residence, second home or investment. 📩 Interested? Contact us for more information or to arrange a viewing on ### ### .htm Want to know more?

A pleasant apartment on the 2nd floor in a relatively recent building in the quiet Gardens of Hollebeke with A-rated EPC! The apartment, almost 100m² in size (+ terrace), consists of a large and bright living space with an open kitchen and a storage/laundry room at the back. The floor-to-ceiling windows open up to the attractive 15m² terrace, which eagerly welcomes the evening sun from the west and offers a view of the towers of Bruges. The spacious entrance hall leads to the bathroom, a first bedroom, a second bedroom with a dressing room (where all the facilities for a second bathroom are also available), and a separate toilet. The apartment also comes with a cellar storage space. Residence Allegri is a high-quality and beautiful building, very peacefully located on a dead-end street, and offers parking for your guests, a communal bike storage. There is also an option to purchase an underground parking space. In summary: a pleasant, spacious, very well-maintained, and peacefully yet centrally located 2-bedroom apartment (with the possibility for a second bathroom). Don't miss this opportunity, as they are in high demand! Want to know more?

Bray-Dunes: Exclusive 3-bedroom apartment with sea views, terrace and 3 parking spaces Enjoy space, natural light and stunning sea views! This stylish 81 m² apartment is located on the top floor of a secure residence with lift, ideally situated in Bray-Dunes. The property offers a bright living area with fully equipped kitchen, 3 bedrooms, a bathroom, a separate shower room, a sunny balcony and a spacious terrace. A rare advantage on the coast: 3 private parking spaces and 2 private cellars are included. Ideal as a permanent residence, second home or investment. Key features Stunning sea views Spacious terrace and sunny balcony Ideal for living, holidays or investment For this property, we are working together with a local expert. For more information or to arrange a viewing, please contact us at ### or ### Want to know more?

Mooi afgewerkt en instapklaar duplex appartement gelegen in een kleinschalige residentie op wandelafstand van het strand, het treinstation en diverse winkels. Het appartement bestaat uit een ruime en lichtrijke leef- en eetruimte, een volledig geïnstalleerde keuken, een praktisch ingerichte badkamer met ruime inloopdouche en lavabomeubel, een apart toilet, een was- en bergruimte en een gezellig zonnig zuidgericht terras. Op de verdieping bevinden zich de nachthal, twee slaapkamers en een extra kamer die perfect kan worden ingericht als babykamer, bureau of dressing. Dankzij de verzorgde afwerking, praktische indeling en gunstige ligging is dit appartement onmiddellijk instapklaar. Alle ramen voorzien zijn van op maat gemaakte gordijnen. Er is een geïsoleerde zolder met zoldertrap aanwezig is die voldoende opbergruimte bied. Ideaal voor eigen bewoning, als tweede verblijf of als investering. Extra troeven: Energiezuinig Conforme elektriciteit Veluxramen voorzien van zonwering Geen syndicuskosten Instapklaar Op wandelafstand van het strand Op wandelafstand van het treinstation Kleinschalige residentie Het appartement is momenteel verhuurd Kandidaat-kopers hebben steeds het recht een bod uit te brengen, zowel onder, op als boven de richtprijs. De verkoper behoudt zich het recht voor om elk bod al dan niet te aanvaarden. Te koop zonder makelaar via Smart Houses. Wenst u meer informatie of een bezoek? Contacteer rechtstreeks de eigenaar ### Want to know more?

Voor meer informatie of een bezoek, contacteer Daan Seys op ### Dit penthouse is gelegen op een AAA-locatie aan de Jachthaven van Oostende. Kijkdag 1/08 In de nabije omgeving bevinden zich het station, de visserskaai en de winkelstraten. Er is een groot terras rondom het appartement met een oppervlakte van ± 61 m², waardoor je hier werkelijk de ganse dag in alle rust kan genieten van de zon. Dankzij de unieke ligging bovenaan het gebouw geniet je van het magnifieke zicht. Overname meubilair mogelijk. Ideaal voor vaste bewoning of vakantieverhuur! Qua buitenruimte: 61 m2 terras, hele dag zon! Toegang via leefruimte en via slaapkamer. De indeling is als volgt: inkomhal, zithoek, leefruimte, berging, slaapkamer en badkamer. Extra privatieve kelder berging op het gelijkvloers. Op technisch vlak: - Vloerverwarming aanwezig - Automatische zonnewering - Recente residentie, bouwjaar 2013! KI: XXX, CV: gas, EPC: 200 kwh/m2jaar. Stedenbouwkundige inlichtingen in aanvraag sinds 21/04/2026 Watertoets, P-score: D, G-score: D Want to know more?

This charming furnished studio apartment is for sale at Zeelaan 170, 8670 Koksijde, offered at 99,500 €. Situated on the second floor of a well-maintained building constructed in 1973, the property benefits from excellent condition and includes an elevator for convenient access. The studio features a practical layout with an entrance hall, a bathroom equipped with a shower, washbasin, and toilet, as well as an open kitchen that flows into the living and dining area furnished with a sofa bed. A terrace extends the living space outdoors, while two cellars provide additional storage options. The apartment is located within the residential zoning of Koksijde, offering a peaceful living environment away from flood-prone areas. It has a primary energy consumption of 243 kWh/m²/year and holds an EPC rating that reflects responsible energy performance. The presence of gas and water connections further ensures modern living comforts. With five floors in the building, this property sits comfortably on the second level, combining ease of access with privacy. Positioned in the heart of Koksijde, this studio benefits from proximity to local amenities and is just a short walking distance from the beach, ideal for those seeking a coastal lifestyle. The property is currently not rented, providing an immediate opportunity for ownership or personal use. To explore this excellent real estate offer or arrange a viewing, please contact the seller referencing Immovlan number RBW63028 or vendor reference 4415202. Want to know more?

This ground-floor apartment for sale in Sint-Kruis offers a perfect combination of comfort and tranquility, featuring a generous private garden and a bright, energy-efficient living space of 94 m². Situated in a pleasant and quiet neighborhood, the property benefits from three facades that provide abundant natural light and a pleasant outlook over the garden. The apartment includes a spacious entrance hall with a separate toilet, a luminous living room, a newly fitted kitchen, a brand-new luxury bathroom with a walk-in shower, and two ample bedrooms. With its ready-to-move-in condition, this home provides an excellent opportunity for those seeking peaceful and comfortable living in Sint-Kruis. Additional notable features encompass recent roof insulation and replacement, including new gutters, as well as new exterior joinery with high-performance glazing. Utility meters for water, gas, and electricity are private to the unit, ensuring independent consumption monitoring. The electrical installation complies with current standards, supported by an official certificate. Furthermore, an optional garage box with a private electricity connection is available separately for €25,000. This apartment combines modern comfort with functional living spaces and outdoor pleasure, making it suitable for both owner-occupiers and investors. Located in Sint-Kruis, this property is offered at the price of €299,900 without VAT. It is not currently rented and will be available upon deed transfer. For buyers intending to make it their sole and main residence and meeting legal conditions, a reduced registration fee of 2% may apply. The apartment also presents interesting rental potential, with an indicative monthly rental value of €900. Prospective buyers interested in a turnkey, energy-efficient residence with two bedrooms and a spacious private garden are encouraged to contact us for further details or to arrange a viewing of this attractive offering. Want to know more?

This newly built apartment for sale in Sint-Idesbald offers a superb living experience within the prestigious Strandzicht project, ideally situated in the town center at Strandlaan 259, 03.02. Priced at €385,000, this residence is set to be completed in 2025 and features a modern design blending luxury and comfort. With a total living area of 72 m², it comprises a spacious entrance hall, a bright living room, and a modern open kitchen equipped with a dining area that opens directly onto a generous 14 m² sun terrace. The apartment includes one full bedroom with an additional private terrace, a luxurious bathroom, separate toilet, storage space, and a dedicated office area. Additional conveniences include a bicycle hook and essential building features such as a lift and intercom system. Energy efficiency and comfort are key highlights of this property. The apartment benefits from underfloor heating powered by electricity and a heat pump, along with double glazing throughout to ensure optimal insulation. It also features a modern ventilation system designed to promote energy savings while maintaining indoor air quality. Soundproofing measures provide enhanced privacy, creating a peaceful living environment. The building comprises six floors, with this apartment located on the third floor, and offers access to underground parking spaces and storage rooms for residents’ convenience. The property holds an A energy label and is not situated in any flood risk area. Located just 400 meters from the beach promenade, this apartment grants easy access to the coastal lifestyle of Sint-Idesbald. Its central position within the town makes it perfect for those seeking proximity to local amenities while enjoying a serene seaside atmosphere. Whether as a permanent residence or a holiday home, this exclusive new development combines modern architecture with high-quality finishes tailored for comfort and style. For further information or to arrange a viewing, please contact Simon at ### This opportunity represents an exceptional chance to invest in contemporary coastal living in one of Belgium’s most desirable locations. Want to know more?

This brand-new apartment for sale is part of the prestigious Strandzicht project located at Strandlaan 259 01.01 in Sint-Idesbald. Priced at €390,000, this modern residence offers a contemporary living experience with high-quality finishes and an emphasis on comfort and luxury. Built in 2025, the apartment spans 85 square meters of living space and includes two full bedrooms, a spacious and bright living room, and a modern open kitchen with a dining area. The layout also features a luxurious bathroom, separate toilet, two storage rooms, and an additional terrace accessible from the bedrooms, complementing the large 14 m² sun terrace adjacent to the living area. The apartment benefits from several advanced features aimed at enhancing energy efficiency and comfort. It is equipped with an electric heating system supported by underfloor heating and a heat pump, ensuring optimal climate control throughout the year. Double glazing and optimal sound insulation contribute to a peaceful indoor environment. Additional conveniences include a videophone system and lift access within the six-story building. Parking spaces and storage rooms are available on the underground level. The property is compliant with local building permits and holds an excellent P-score rating for energy performance. It is situated outside any flood-prone zones and is not subject to heritage protection constraints. Situated in the heart of Sint-Idesbald, this apartment offers an exceptional location just 400 meters from the sea dike, combining the benefits of coastal living with easy access to the village center. The exclusive Strandzicht development provides a unique opportunity to enjoy a luxurious lifestyle on the Belgian coast with modern amenities and spacious outdoor living areas. Interested buyers are encouraged to contact Simon at ### for more information or to arrange a viewing. This is an excellent chance to secure a high-quality new apartment in one of the most sought-after coastal towns in Flanders. Want to know more?

This newly constructed apartment in Koksijde offers a luxurious and energy-efficient living experience within close proximity to the town center. Situated on the third floor of a modern four-story building at Zeelaan 211, this residence is part of the exclusive Residentie Helia project, scheduled for completion in 2025. The apartment spans a generous 101 m² of living space, featuring two well-sized bedrooms and one elegant bathroom. The design prioritizes comfort and modernity, with amenities such as underfloor heating powered by a heat pump and double-glazed windows ensuring optimal thermal performance and energy savings. Additional comforts include a videophone system and an elevator within the building, although accessibility for persons with reduced mobility is not provided. The interior layout comprises an entrance hall leading to a bright living room complemented by a modern kitchen, all thoughtfully arranged to maximize space and natural light. A separate toilet adds convenience to the functional design. Outdoor living is enhanced by an 8 m² terrace oriented northeast, ideal for enjoying fresh air in a peaceful setting. The apartment benefits from high-quality finishes, tailored to meet discerning tastes, and soundproofing measures that guarantee tranquility. On-site features include secure bicycle storage and a communal interior garden that fosters a sense of community while providing a green retreat. This property is classified as a Nearly Zero-Energy Building (BEN), equipped with solar panels to further reduce environmental impact and utility costs. Offered at a price of €479,500 including VAT, this apartment represents a prime opportunity for buyers seeking contemporary coastal living with exceptional energy standards in Koksijde. The property holds an official subdivision permit and sits outside any designated flood risk or protected zones. For further details or to arrange a viewing, interested parties are encouraged to contact Christian at ### This residence combines sustainable technology, refined design, and a strategic location, making it an outstanding choice on the Belgian real estate market. Want to know more?

This luxurious newly built duplex apartment is situated at Albert I laan 51, Nieuwpoort, offering an exceptional living experience within the prestigious Sailor’s Park 5 - Villa Manta project. Priced at €740,000, this spacious residence, completed in 2023, spans 181 m² of living space distributed over the third and fourth floors of the building. The apartment features four bedrooms and two bathrooms, complemented by double glazing and gas heating for comfort and efficiency. Residents benefit from modern conveniences such as a lift and an intercom system, ensuring security and accessibility. The layout is thoughtfully designed to maximize both functionality and comfort. On the third floor, the entrance hall leads to a guest toilet and a storage room equipped with washing machine connections. A staircase provides access to the upper level. The living area on this floor includes an open kitchen, a lounge area, a dining space opening onto a sizable terrace of approximately 14 m², and one bedroom with an en-suite bathroom that also enjoys access to a second terrace. Upstairs, the night hall connects three additional bedrooms, two terraces one of which features external storage, a bathroom with a double sink and walk-in shower, and a separate toilet. The apartment benefits from optimal sound insulation for enhanced privacy and incorporates energy-efficient ventilation systems in line with modern standards. Nestled within a quiet and residential neighborhood close to Nieuwpoort’s commercial center and just 2 km from the Zeedijk, this residence offers residents both tranquility and convenience near the Belgian coast. As part of the Sailor’s Park complex, occupants have access to extensive recreational facilities including heated swimming pools and petanque courts, ideal for leisure pursuits. This property is not subject to flooding risk designations nor is it protected as heritage. Interested parties are encouraged to contact Gert at ### for more information or to arrange a viewing appointment. This is a rare opportunity to acquire a bright, elegant duplex in one of Nieuwpoort’s most sought-after new developments. Want to know more?

For sale: spacious semi-detached apartment in the heart of Koksijde, within walking distance of the sea, dunes, and public transport. This apartment (built in 1993) offers an impressive 220 m² of living space, including a 70 m² living room. With a full south-facing orientation, you enjoy sunlight all day long, both indoors and on the two corner terraces. There is also the unique option to purchase a double-width garage in the residence – perfect for extra parking or storage. Main rooms: • Entrance hall with cloakroom • Very spacious living room (70 m²) with abundant natural light and access to both terraces • Fully equipped kitchen • Three comfortable bedrooms • Three bathrooms and separate toilet • Two sunny corner terraces • Option to purchase double-width garage in the residence Highlights: • Option to purchase double-width garage in the residence • Fully south-facing with two corner terraces • Very spacious apartment of 220 m² with 70 m² living room Contact your ERA agent today to arrange a viewing. YOUR DREAM APARTMENT. FOUND! Want to know more?