House for sale with 3 bedrooms - Thiméon

Pour tout renseignement et visite, veuillez contacter : Di Girolamo Michel – ### Adresse : 6040 Jumet, rue de la Prévoyance 3 — maison deux façades rénovée Maison 2 façades de 117m² nets habitables, rénovée, située sur une parcelle de 1a45ca, comprenant 3 chambres, terrasse orientée Nord-Ouest, cave, raccordée au réseau d’égouttage avec une électricité conforme jusqu’en 2047. Composition : au rez-de-chaussée : hall d’entrée (5,58m² ), logette de toilette (1,32m² / WC + lave-mains), séjour (19,20m² – poêle à pellets 2023 chauffant l’entièreté du bien), cuisine (21,11m² – taques vitrocéramiques Beko, hotte Whirlpool, four AEG, frigo combiné congélateur, lave-vaisselle – ouverture sur terrasse – plancher massif), buanderie (9,80m² / plancher massif ). Au 1er étage : palier/hall de nuit (4,80m²), chambre (21,11m² – châssis PVC double vitrage + moustiquaire – accès grenier via trappe), chambre/bureau (10,65m²), salle de bains (10,48m² – baignoire, douche, meuble simple vasque, WC classique, boiler électrique 100L). Au 2ème étage : chambre (12,81m²), grenier (13,95m² – accès partiel par escalier fixe et autre accès via une trappe dans l'une des chambres). Sous-sol : cave de 7,15m² (via buanderie + cave sous cuisine). À l’extérieur : terrasse orientée Nord-Ouest. Équipements : châssis PVC double vitrage de 2024, chauffage au pellets (2023), toiture en bon état et isolée, boiler électrique de 100L, compteurs individuels eau/gaz/électricité, électricité conforme jusqu’en 2047. R.C. : 416 € Faire offre à partir de : 195.000 € - Prix d'achat immédiat : 215.000 € PEB C n°20251122003145 – 247 kWh/m².an – 42.396 kWh/an Cliquer ici pour le PEB Want to know more?

Discover this charming residence located in the peaceful neighborhood of Jumet, offering an attractive opportunity for those seeking a comfortable family home with practical amenities. Priced at €199,000, this well-maintained house stands out with its traditional two-facade design, featuring a lovely garden area and the potential to add a garage, making it an ideal property for both everyday living and future expansion. The property boasts a total living area of 132 square meters, distributed across multiple floors, with three bedrooms, two bathrooms, and a spacious living room that includes a veranda with a cozy pellet stove. The interior is designed for convenience and comfort, with a fully equipped kitchen featuring modern appliances such as a stove, oven, hood, dishwasher, and fridge, along with practical storage solutions like built-in closets in one of the bedrooms. The ground floor encompasses an inviting entrance hall that leads into the bright and open living spaces. The living room connects seamlessly with the veranda, providing additional space for relaxation or entertainment. Adjacent to the kitchen, there is a bathroom and a separate shower room, alongside two bedrooms—one of which features integrated closets—making it suitable for families or individuals needing dedicated workspaces. The upper floor hosts a large bedroom accessible via a staircase from the first floor, increasing the home’s versatility. In the basement, you'll find a vaulted cellar and a wine cellar, offering ample storage options. Outside, the property is complemented by a small garden equipped with a terrace and a shelter, perfect for outdoor gatherings and enjoying the tranquility of this quiet area. The house is equipped with modern features such as double-glazed PVC windows, gas central heating installed in 2020, an alarm system, and an insulated slate roof, ensuring both comfort and security. Located at Rue Maximilien Wattelar 110 in Jumet, this residence benefits from its proximity to essential amenities, making daily life convenient while enjoying the serene environment. The property’s energy performance is rated at EPC C with an annual primary energy consumption of 225 kWh/m². Additional options include purchasing a large garage measuring 7.8 meters by 4 meters for €17,500 or a smaller garage for €12,500, both situated within 30 meters of the house—adding valuable parking solutions for residents or visitors. With its well-thought-out layout, charming outdoor space, and potential for future upgrades, this property presents an excellent opportunity for buyers seeking a versatile and comfortable home in Jumet. Don't miss the chance to make this delightful residence your new home—contact us today to arrange a viewing or to request further information about this exceptional offer. Want to know more?

Discover this charming residence for sale in Gosselies, perfectly suited for those seeking a spacious and luminous family home. Located at Courtil Mouton 1D, this beautiful three-façade property offers an impressive living experience with well-designed interiors and versatile spaces. The total habitable surface amounts to 150 square meters, providing ample room for comfortable living. Built in 2010, the house boasts modern features, including PVC double-glazed windows, a central heating system fueled by oil, and a rainwater collection tank with a pump. The property comprises a welcoming entrance hall, a two-car garage with an automatic door, a practical office with outdoor access, a boiler room, a terrace, and a garden that enhances outdoor enjoyment. The interior layout is thoughtfully designed, with a ground floor featuring an entrance hall, a separate toilet, a laundry room, an equipped kitchen with a dining area, and a spacious living room ideal for relaxing or entertaining guests. Upstairs, you will find a night hall leading to three comfortable bedrooms and a full bathroom — perfect for families or those needing extra space. The property's external features are equally impressive, with three façades that bring in abundant natural light and add to its aesthetic appeal. Parking is convenient with three outdoor spaces directly in front of the house, complemented by the two-car garage. The outdoor areas include a terrace and a garden, ideal for outdoor gatherings or gardening. Located in Gosselies, this house benefits from proximity to essential amenities and facilities, making daily life convenient and enjoyable. The property is well-maintained and offers excellent energy efficiency with an EPC rating of D at 219 kWh/m² per year, with certificates valid until June 2026. The house is available for purchase at the price of €325,000, subject to the owner's acceptance. Whether you're seeking a family home or an investment opportunity, this residence combines comfort, practicality, and location. If this exceptional property aligns with your needs, don’t hesitate to contact us for further information or to schedule a visit. This is a rare opportunity to acquire a spacious and luminous family home in Gosselies that offers both comfort and convenience in a thriving area. We look forward to assisting you in making this beautiful house your new home. Want to know more?

Maison rénovée située à proximité des grands axes et facilités comprenant: Rez: Living - cuisine équipée - Cour Etage: Hall de nuit - SDD + WC - 1 chambre - Grenier aménagé (poss. 2 chambres) - Caves en sous-sol - Châssis PVC DV - CC Gaz - PEB Label F 505 Kwh/m².an (avant travaux) - Electricité CONFORME - TB état, habitable de suite - Maison actuellement louée 800€/mois - Faire Offre à partir de 155.000€ (L'agent n'a aucun pouvoir de décision quant aux offres reçues) Want to know more?

DELFIMMO, votre agence immobilière à 1%* de commission, vous propose cette vaste maison de commerce à vendre. Excellente situation, sur la Place des Martyrs de Gosselies, à proximité de la gare, des transports en commun, des commerces et des écoles. Elle se compose, au rez de chaussée, d'un commerce, d'une arrière cuisine, d'une réserve et d'une pièce bureau. Le premier étage est composé d'un premier appartement qui comprend un espace buanderie, une cuisine équipée, un salon, une chambre et une salle de bains. Le deuxième étage est composé d'un seconde partie qui comprend 3 chambres supplémentaires ainsi qu'un salon. Le bâtiment possède deux entrées. L'immeuble est équipé de châssis double vitrage en pvc et en bois, d'un chauffage central au mazout, de deux compteurs électriques, d'un parlophone et d'une cave carrelée. Belle opportunité à saisir. Prix : Faire offre à partir de 249.000€. Informations complémentaires par mail : ### et visites sur rdv au ### Commission d'agence uniquement à la charge du vendeur en cas de vente : *1%HTVA soit 1,21%TVAC, avec un minimum de 2900€HTVA soit 3509€TVAC. Want to know more?

We Invest Centre Hainaut vous présente cette maison bel-étage accompagnée d’un rez commercial, idéalement située à proximité immédiate de la place de Courcelles. Le duo parfait pour allier vie privée et activité professionnelle. Le rez commercial se compose d’un hall d’entrée, de deux bureaux de 11 m² et 9 m², d'un garage, des caves offrant un espace de stockage supplémentaire. Cet espace est idéal pour une profession libérale, un indépendant ou toute activité complémentaire. La maison bel-étage se compose au premier étage d’un living lumineux, d’une cuisine équipée et d’une buanderie. Au deuxième étage, vous trouverez un hall de nuit desservant deux chambres ainsi qu’une salle de bain équipée. Le troisième étage propose une grande chambre supplémentaire, avec la possibilité de la diviser selon vos besoins. Eléments techniques: toiture en bon état, châssis en bois en double vitrage, chauffage central mazout. PEB=C (254Kwh/m².an). Code unique 20251121001117. E total=80603kWh/an Idéale pour concilier vie privée et activité professionnelle, cette maison offre flexibilité et emplacement central. Offre àpd: 335.000€ Infos et visites, n'hésitez pas à contacter Luca au ### Pour toute demande d'évaluation GRATUITE et SANS ENGAGEMENT, contactez-moi au ### ou au ### !!! We Invest Centre Hainaut - Votre agence de proximité sur La Louvière, Binche, Thuin, Anderlues, Chapelle, Morlanwelz, Manage, Seneffe, Courcelles et Pont-à-Celles !!! Want to know more?

Discover this charming renovated house located at Rue de l'Observatoire 21 in Gosselies, an attractive suburb renowned for its peaceful ambiance and convenient accessibility. Priced at €180,000, this property offers an excellent opportunity for first-time buyers or families seeking a comfortable home in a quiet neighborhood. The house boasts a practical layout with a total living area of approximately 97 square meters, spread across two façades that enhance its character and charm. Built in 1874, it has been modernized to provide contemporary comfort while preserving its historical appeal. With no work required, this home is move-in ready, allowing new owners to settle in without delay. The interior features include a spacious hall at the ground floor that can serve as an office or additional bedroom, alongside a bright and modern living and dining area connected to a fully equipped kitchen. A separate toilet on the ground floor adds to the practicality of the layout. Upstairs, there are three bedrooms, including one notably large at 17m², perfect for family use or guest accommodation. The renovated bathroom further enhances the home's comfort, providing a stylish and functional space. External amenities are equally impressive, with a generous sunny terrace and a well-maintained garden, perfect for outdoor living and entertaining. Additional features such as gas heating, double-glazed windows, shutters, and compliance with electrical standards contribute to the property's overall appeal and energy efficiency. Situated within Gosselies, this residence benefits from a tranquil environment with easy access to local amenities, transport links, and essential services. The property is connected to the sewer system and boasts an energy performance certificate rated at C, with a primary energy demand of 227 kWh/m² per year. Its excellent condition and strategic location make it an attractive option for buyers looking for a comfortable, ready-to-move-in home in this dynamic area. For more information or to schedule a viewing, interested parties are encouraged to contact the agency at ### Don't miss the opportunity to make this lovely house your new home—contact us today to start your journey towards ownership. Want to know more?

Rêvimmo Charleroi presents this lovely 3-bedroom house. Located in a cul-de-sac in a quiet neighborhood of Ransart, close to schools, shops, public transportation, and major roads. Living area of ​​approximately 102 m². Layout: Ground floor: living room, dining room, fitted kitchen, shower room with toilet, laundry room (annex), cellar. 1st floor: night hall, 3 bedrooms of 7, 8, and 22 m². Attic storage. Amenities: Double-glazed PVC windows and shutters, oil-fired central heating (Viessmaan boiler) with a 2,000 L tank, 150 L electric water heater, 42 m² terrace, roof in perfect condition, private side passage, compliant electrical installation, 2 private parking spaces. Information and visits at ### or ### or by email ### Want to know more?

Contact agence : Thomas Pirquet au ### ou par mail à l'adresse ### We Invest Charleroi vous présente cet immeuble mixte. Idéal pour les investisseurs, il bénéficie d'un potentiel revenu locatif mensuel de 2.050€. Situé à Ransart, ce bien unique offre de nombreuses possibilités grâce à son emplacement stratégique, à seulement 1,5 km de l’aéroport. Cette propriété comprend une surface commerciale de 170m² et un duplex de 118 m² comprenant deux chambres. Chauffage central au gaz de ville individualisé , PEB D pour les appartements, RC : 1.070€. Attention, le studio n'est pas reconnu et n'est pas régularisable et doit faire partie du rez-commercial. Prix : 297.000 € sous réserve d’accord du propriétaire. (Annonce à titre indicatif et non contractuelle, sous réserve d’inexactitudes). Informations complémentaires ou visites au ### ou par mail à l'adresse ### Want to know more?

Discover this charming residence for sale in Jumet, a welcoming property that combines comfort and practicality in a desirable location. Priced at €218,000, this well-maintained home offers an inviting living space designed to meet the needs of modern families or those seeking a comfortable lifestyle. With a total living area of approximately 200 m², the house features three spacious bedrooms, perfect for family living or guest accommodation. The interior includes a bright and cozy living room of around 42 m², an ideal space for relaxation or entertaining guests. The house benefits from a recently installed gas central heating system, with a boiler dating from 2023, ensuring energy efficiency and warmth throughout the year. The roof has been recently updated and insulated, adding to the property's overall durability and energy performance. Notably, the house includes a functional cellar, providing ample storage, and an attic space that can be converted into two additional bedrooms, offering excellent potential for customization. The property’s exterior complements its interior charm, with a west-facing facade that bathes the garden and terrace in sunlight during the afternoon and evening hours. The outdoor space comprises a 100 m² garden and a 24 m² terrace, perfect for outdoor dining, relaxing in the sun, or enjoying a variety of leisure activities. The garden's orientation and size make it an appealing feature for those who appreciate outdoor living or wish to cultivate their own garden oasis. The property boasts two façades and offers practical amenities such as double glazing in PVC, which helps with insulation and noise reduction. The house is not currently rented, providing immediate availability for new owners. Situated in Jumet, this location offers the benefits of a peaceful residential environment while maintaining easy access to local amenities and services. This attractive residence is an excellent opportunity for buyers seeking a move-in-ready home with room for future expansion. The asking price of €218,000 reflects its value in a popular area, with no VAT applicable. Interested parties are encouraged to contact the agency for further information or to arrange a viewing. This property represents a well-balanced combination of comfort, functionality, and potential, making it an ideal choice for those looking to settle in Jumet. Take the next step towards your new home by reaching out today—this welcoming house awaits its new owners and could be yours with just a call or visit. Want to know more?

Discover this charming residence for sale in Jumet, located at Rue Maximilien Wattelar 108. Priced at €145,000, this property presents a wonderful opportunity for buyers seeking a home with potential. Situated in a neighborhood offering a range of amenities, this house combines comfort with practicality, making it an attractive choice for families or those looking to customize their living space. With a solid structure and promising features, this property invites you to imagine its full potential. This house offers a total living area of approximately 115 m², with three bedrooms on the first floor providing ample space for family members or guests. The ground floor features a welcoming entrance hall, a living room, dining area, and a veranda that can serve as a versatile living space. The kitchen is equipped with essential appliances including a stove, refrigerator, and freezer, ready for immediate use. The bathroom includes a shower, and there is a separate toilet for added convenience. An attic space on the second floor is convertible into an additional bedroom, expanding the existing accommodation. The exterior boasts a lovely garden at the rear, ideal for outdoor activities or relaxation. A notable feature is the PVC double-glazed windows that enhance insulation, while heating is provided via a pellet stove and gas system, offering efficient comfort. Security is addressed through an alarm system, though some updates are recommended for electrical and heating installations to meet current standards. A nearby garage for one vehicle is available for purchase at €12,500, located just 80 meters from the house, providing convenient parking options. The property benefits from a strategic location in Jumet, a vibrant area well-connected and rich in local amenities. The current energy performance certificate (EPC) indicates a rating of D, with an energy consumption of 326 kWh/m²/year. This property is ideal for buyers looking to invest in a home that allows customization and future improvements. Whether you are seeking a family residence or an investment project, this house offers the flexibility and potential to meet your needs. Interested buyers are encouraged to contact us for further information or to arrange a viewing, as this opportunity awaits those ready to transform this promising property into their new home. Want to know more?

Discover this charming residence for sale in Jumet, situated at Rue Daniel Kinet 4. This beautiful home, listed at €195,000, offers a fantastic opportunity for buyers seeking a completely renovated property with modern amenities and a comfortable layout. The house is a three-facade building, which was fully refurbished in 2019, ensuring contemporary standards and energy efficiency. It is located within an inner courtyard, providing a peaceful environment away from the street, and features a private garden and terrace that are perfect for outdoor living and relaxation. The interior of this residence comprises approximately 80 square meters of living space, thoughtfully designed to maximize comfort. On the ground floor, you'll find a welcoming living room, a well-equipped kitchen with a dining area, a bathroom with a shower and WC, an additional WC, and a laundry area. The first floor hosts two bedrooms, while the second floor offers an additional bedroom, making it suitable for families or those needing extra space. The property benefits from PVC double-glazed window frames, a new roof, and an efficient pellet stove for heating, contributing to reduced energy costs and a positive EPC rating of class E with a consumption of 423 kWh/m² per year. The house also includes a cellar underground, providing valuable storage space. Located in Jumet, this property is conveniently close to local amenities and infrastructure, making everyday living practical and comfortable. The property is currently rented at €950 per month, offering potential rental income for investors or future homeowners seeking tenants. The electrical installation is compliant until 2046, and the property holds a valid electrical certificate. With its attractive features, modern renovations, and excellent location, this residence presents a compelling opportunity for buyers looking to settle in Jumet. Priced at €195,000 and available upon offer subject to owner acceptance, this home invites you to contact us for further details or to arrange a viewing. Want to know more?

PERF ENERG : PEB N°20250924013661 - PEB : D - E spec 316 kWh/m² - E tot : 45325 kWh/m².an. Offer starting at 235,000 euros, subject to acceptance by the owner. Non-contractual information not binding on the real estate agent. Want to know more?

Located at 124 Chaussée de Courcelles in Gosselies, this property offers a versatile opportunity for both investors and homebuyers. The house is situated on a 4a40ca plot, providing outdoor space with a garden and a garage accessible from within the property. The main residence includes a living room, dining area, kitchen, bathroom with shower, and a garage on the ground floor. Upstairs, there are two bedrooms, with an attic space that can be converted into two additional bedrooms. Additionally, the home contains a basement cellar, enhancing storage options. An attractive feature of this property is the presence of an independent one-bedroom apartment, accessible either via a path from the street or through the basement of the main house. The apartment comprises a kitchen with a shower room, a living area, and a bedroom, making it suitable for rental income or extended family use. The property benefits from double-glazed windows and has basic amenities, though some renovation work is needed to update the interiors. The location offers convenient access to major roads and highways, making it ideal for commuters. The property is available immediately and is offered at €165,000. It is currently not occupied and does not include additional certifications for energy or electrical installations. This residence provides a solid foundation for those seeking a project with potential for personalized upgrades and investment returns. Want to know more?

🏚️ L’agence immobilière KIMMO vous présente Maison déclarée insalubre, située Rue Lagasse 33 à 6040 Jumet et proche de toutes les commodités (transports, commerces, écoles). Idéale pour les amateurs de rénovation complète ou les investisseurs à la recherche d’un projet à petit prix 💥 📐 Composition : – Sous-sol : cave. – Rez-de-chaussée : salon, salle à manger et cuisine donnant accès au jardin arrière 🌿 – Étage : 3 chambres. 🏗️ Cette habitation nécessite une rénovation totale (toiture, électricité, chauffage, sanitaires, etc.), projet idéal pour investissement locatif ou revente après rénovation. 🔎 Aspects techniques : – PEB : classe F – Espec 486 kWh/m².an – C.U 20250131025546 – Chauffage : à réinstaller – Châssis : à remplacer 💶 FO APD frais d’agence non-inclus : 59.000 € (sous réserve d'acceptation des vendeurs) 💼 Frais d’agence : 3,63 % TVAC (min. 6.655 € TVAC) 💶 Prix indicatif frais d’agence inclus : 65.655 € 📞 Contact - ### – ### 📌 Annonce à titre informatif et non contractuel. 📌 L’agent immobilier ne prend aucune décision sur les offres reçues. ✨ KIMMO, Plus Que Des Mots ! Want to know more?

🏡 FOR SALE - Superb fully renovated 3-front house + second dwelling suitable for conversion Side passage - Large garden - Workshop / second house suitable for conversion This unique property offers modern comfort, large volumes and exceptional potential thanks to a second house to the rear, currently used as a workshop but which could be redeveloped into a separate dwelling (2 possible addresses). 🔹 Recent renovations (main house): All redone! New roof + insulation New window frames (double and triple glazing) Electrical installation compliant until 2040 All interior finishes redone Renovated front gable A healthy, modern house with no work to be done. 🔹 House features: 3 bedrooms Large convertible attic: possibility of creating 2 additional bedrooms Town gas central heating 2 TOILETS 3-sided house with side passage Terrace + garden for a total of approx. 280 m² 🔹 The second house / workshop: Located at the rear of the plot Currently used as a workshop Can be rehabilitated as a home (rental potential, independent living, liberal profession, etc.) Possibility of 2 separate addresses A rare asset, offering numerous business opportunities! 🌳 Exterior: Beautiful terrace Large, well-oriented garden Convenient side passage to workshop / second home Want to know more?

We Invest Centre Hainaut vous présente cette belle propriété bien située composée d’une maison de maître, d’un espace commercial/horeca (anciennement à usage de salle de fête et de magasin artisanal) et d'une prairie avec accès carrossable séparé! La maison comprend: hall d'entrée, cuisine équipée, living, salle de douche équipée, bureau, buanderie, hall de nuit, 3 chambres, grenier aménageable. Elle vous offre également: plusieurs caves avec chaufferie/buanderie, cour, terrasse et jardin. La partie professionnelle comprend: salle principale (+/-110m²) avec coin bar et sono, arrière salle (+/-25m²), chambre froide, cuisine professionnelle, sanitaires (avec accès PMR) et terrasse. Eléments techniques: toiture correcte, châssis PVC en double vitrage avec volets, chauff. central mazout, électricité conforme, compteur bi-horaire, citerne eau de pluie avec groupe hydro. PEB=D (283Kwh/m².an). Code unique 20250914003588. E total=79394Kwh/an. RC=2170€ Propriété avec beaucoup de potentiel et une prairie de +/-28ares. Idéal pour profiter de son habitation juste à côté de son activité professionnelle telle que commerce, salle de sport, horeca, bureaux,... Prix souhaité 299.000€ Visites sur rdv avec l'agence au ### Pour toute demande d'évaluation GRATUITE et SANS ENGAGEMENT, contactez-moi au ### !!! We Invest Centre Hainaut - Votre agence de proximité sur La Louvière, Binche, Thuin, Anderlues, Chapelle, Morlanwelz, Manage, Seneffe, Courcelles et Pont-à-Celles !!! Want to know more?

Maison 3 chambres avec jardin ! Située à Rue des Protestants, 1 à 6040 Jumet, cette maison offre un gros potentiel de vie. Elle est également proche de toutes les commodités (commerces, écoles, …) et des axes autoroutiers. Composition : Superficie +/- 130m² Sous-sol : Cave Rez-de-chaussée : Hall d’entrée, Salon, Salle à manger, Cuisine non équipée, Buanderie et salle de bain 1er étage : Hall de nuit et 2 chambres Grenier : Aménageable en chambre Extérieur : Passage latéral, grand jardin avec terrasse, possibilité de parking en devanture. Confort : Châssis PVC double vitrage, PEB : G ( 840 kWh/m².an) - Code unique : 20251108006906 À noter : Maison à rénover, travaux à prévoir. PRIX : 97.000 € A saisir ! Pour plus d’informations ou pour organiser une visite, contactez-nous au ### Want to know more?

Maison en cour de rénovation Immo service a le plaisir de vous proposer cette maison proche de toutes les commodités ainsi que de l’autoroute E42. Elle se compose d’un hall d’entrée, d’un premier salon idéal pour une profession libérale, d’un living, cuisine ouverte, buanderie avec wc séparé, accès au garage via une porte et une cave. Au premier étage se trouve 2 chambres et une salle de bain. Au second étage : une suite parentale avec salle de douche. La maison est en cours de rénovation totale : A l’extérieur, la façade avant a été sablée et repeinte, le pignon et la façade arrière sont en cours de sablage , le garage a été refait et il va y avoir une terrasse sur le toit (plateforme de la cuisine et garage).A l’intérieur pose de châssis double vitrage PVC, les portes vont être changées, Au rez-de-chaussée tout sera carrelé, pose de la cuisine, wc séparé. A l’étage il y aura du parquet dans les 2 chambres ainsi que dans la suite parentale, la salle de bain du premier sera carrelée entièrement avec pose d’une baignoire, lavabo et wc, celle de la suite parentale sera carrelée avec une douche , lavabo et wc. Pose d’un isolant intérieur puis plafonnage dans la chambre parentale, chaudière à gaz neuve. Superbe opportunité à saisir ! Want to know more?