House for sale - less than 250000 euros - Namur (Province) (page 2)

Idéalement située Rue Jacquet 74, à Rochefort, cette maison 3 façades au charme authentique bénéficie d’un emplacement exceptionnel, littéralement au pied du Château de Rochefort, dans un cadre chargé d’histoire et de caractère. De forme atypique, cette habitation séduit immédiatement par son potentiel remarquable et ses éléments de style ancien. Les deux premiers étages offrent de belles hauteurs sous plafond, renforçant l’élégance et le cachet de l’ensemble. Certaines caractéristiques rappellent une maison de maître, notamment un superbe escalier en chêne et de nombreux détails architecturaux à mettre en valeur. Actuellement, la maison est aménagée avec deux chambres et une salle de bain, mais sa configuration permet d’envisager aisément une restructuration ambitieuse en créant une salle d'eau supplémentaire (ou un bureau/ une chambre) et une suite parentale au dernier étage. À l’extérieur, le jardin en trois paliers constitue un véritable atout. Il offre une vue dégagée et pleine de charme sur la ville, avec une vue sur l’Hôtel de Ville de Rochefort, idéal pour profiter d’un environnement urbain tout en conservant une atmosphère paisible. La maison est habitable immédiatement, ce qui permet d’y emménager sans délai tout en réalisant progressivement les travaux selon vos envies et vos projets. Un bien rare, alliant emplacement exceptionnel, cachet de l’ancien et fort potentiel d’aménagement, idéal pour les amateurs de caractère et de rénovation. Want to know more?

Vos Agences Condrogest Dinant vous présente dans le centre de Florennes cette charmante maison 3 chambres entièrement rénovée en 2022 et bénéficiant d'un PEB C. Elle se situe à proximité immédiate du centre, de ses commerces et services. Idéale pour une famille avec enfant. La maison bénéficie d'un jardin privatif ainsi qu'un garage une voiture. Composition : - Rez-de-chaussée : hall d'entrée avec wc, salon, salle à manger avec cassette à bois, cuisine meublée ; - 1er étage : hall de nuit, 3 chambres, salle de bains ; - 2e étage : grenier de 48 m² isolé et aménageable ; - Sous-sol : hall, buanderie, 3 caves. Remarques : châssis PVC double vitrage avec volet - installation électrique conforme jusqu'en 2045 - chauffage par poêle à pellet - nouvelle toiture - façades et toiture entièrement isolées - garage indépendant. Faire offre à partir de 185.000€ sous réserve d'acceptation du vendeur. Want to know more?

Discover this charming chalet for sale in the peaceful and scenic area of Somme-Leuze, offering an ideal retreat for nature lovers and those seeking tranquility. Priced at €225,000, this well-maintained property presents an excellent opportunity to own a cozy and fully furnished holiday home in a lush, wooded setting. The chalet boasts a generous living space of 56 square meters, thoughtfully designed to maximize comfort and functionality. It features two bedrooms, measuring 8 m² and 6 m² respectively, perfect for accommodating family or guests. The bright and inviting living room provides a warm atmosphere, complemented by an open-plan equipped kitchen that makes meal preparation enjoyable. An essential attribute of this property is the south-east facing terrace of 8 m², ideal for outdoor relaxation and enjoying the surrounding natural beauty. Situated just about 15 minutes from the picturesque town of Durbuy, this chalet offers unparalleled access to scenic landscapes and outdoor activities. The surrounding environment enhances its appeal as a tranquil getaway or a potential rental investment, with very good prospects for rental income. The property is equipped with electric convector heating, controlled remotely for added comfort, and benefits from double-glazed windows to ensure energy efficiency. Additional features include a large cellar beneath the house, connection to sewage and water systems, and an energy certificate indicating a primary energy consumption of 340 kWh/m² per year. The chalet is sold in excellent condition, fully furnished, and immediately available for new owners to enjoy or rent out. This property truly combines comfort, practicality, and natural beauty in one appealing package. Its strategic location in a serene environment makes it perfect for unwinding or exploring the local natural attractions. Whether you're considering a personal retreat or an investment opportunity, this chalet in Somme-Leuze is worth a visit. For further information or to arrange a viewing, please contact E Bauraind at ### Do not miss the chance to own this delightful property in one of the most charming regions of Belgium. Want to know more?

Discover a rare investment opportunity in Jemeppe-Sur-Sambre with this versatile property located at Rue des Trois Frères Servais 5. Priced at €210,000, this building offers a unique blend of potential and flexibility, making it an attractive choice for investors, families, or those seeking to optimize their living arrangements. The property comprises two fully independent apartments, each with its own entrance, heating system, and water and electrical meters, providing a multitude of options for usage. Whether you envision combining both units into a spacious single-family home, renting out one or both apartments to generate income, or hosting multi-generational living, this property adapts to your vision. Each apartment features a practical layout: a welcoming hall, a comfortable living room, a kitchen (which could benefit from refreshing), a bathroom (also potentially needing updates), along with two bedrooms and a laundry area. The external spaces enhance the property's appeal, with a terrain that includes a lateral passage serving as parking, a garage, and additional dependencies. These outdoor areas present excellent opportunities to create a garden or storage zones for equipment, vehicles, or professional activities. Technically, the building benefits from PVC double glazing, shutters, a gas central heating system in tank, compliant electrical wiring with available plans and inspections, and a concrete structure on each level. The flat roof will require some attention, but overall, the property is ready for immediate occupancy or renovation. Situated in Jemeppe-Sur-Sambre, this property offers not only potential for customization and value enhancement but also benefits from its strategic location within an accessible community. The spacious grounds of approximately 383 m² provide ample outdoor space, and the presence of a garage and parking area adds convenience for residents or tenants. Given its current condition and the possibility for refurbishment, this property presents a highly strategic and intelligent purchase decision for those seeking a flexible investment or a family residence with income-generating capacity. With the building being available immediately, interested buyers are encouraged to contact us promptly to explore this exceptional opportunity further and to realize its full potential. Want to know more?

Discover a charming family home nestled in the peaceful surroundings of Malonne, just on the outskirts of Floreffe. This residence, listed at €249,500, offers a unique combination of traditional charm and modern comfort, making it an ideal choice for those seeking a welcoming and functional living space. Situated at Rue Emile Lessire 40, this property is set on an 840 m² plot that includes a lovely garden, a small stream, and ample outdoor space for relaxation or outdoor activities. The property boasts a total living area of approximately 190 m², featuring four spacious bedrooms and a well-maintained bathroom, offering plenty of room for family life or entertaining guests. The house’s exterior has been recently refreshed with a new façade that has been meticulously sanded and repointed, complemented by a new roof with modern insulation, ensuring durability and energy efficiency. The windows are fitted with double or triple glazing PVC frames, and functional fireplaces add warmth and charm to the interior ambiance. The property also benefits from photovoltaic panels that contribute to energy savings and sustainability. Inside, the house presents a bright and inviting atmosphere. Upon entering, you are welcomed into a hall that leads to a cozy living room equipped with a wood stove, perfect for colder days. The dining area is adjacent to a kitchen with a dedicated dining corner that offers direct access and views of the garden, creating a seamless indoor-outdoor connection. A bathroom, toilet, small technical hall, and laundry area with a secondary entrance complete the ground floor layout. Moving upstairs, you'll find a night hall leading to a fully equipped bathroom and four independent bedrooms, one of which has access to an attic that can be partially converted for additional living space. Technical features include operational chimneys, a CCM system, and the potential for extension, providing flexibility for future modifications. The house’s location in Malonne offers numerous advantages, balancing tranquility with accessibility. Situated along a quiet route, yet close enough to local amenities and services, this property provides the perfect setting for those wanting a peaceful environment without sacrificing convenience. The area’s natural beauty is accentuated by the stream running through the garden, providing a soothing and relaxing backdrop. A double garage with a pit caters to automobile enthusiasts or those needing additional storage space. Although the property is situated near a road, the interior exudes warmth, light, and volume that will surprise visitors. This residence is truly an authentic family home full of character, ready to welcome its new owners looking for comfort, charm, and natural beauty in Malonne. For further details or to arrange a viewing, please do not hesitate to contact us—this property deserves your attention. Want to know more?

Discover this charming residence for sale in Floreffe, a delightful village renowned for its peaceful atmosphere and perfect balance between a warm village ambiance and convenient amenities. Situated at Rue Emile Lessire 40, this property offers a unique combination of classic exterior charm and an inviting interior that surprises with its brightness, practicality, and comfort. Priced at €249,500, this home presents an excellent opportunity for families seeking a spacious and characterful property in a serene setting. The house is not currently rented, making it an ideal acquisition for those looking to settle into a welcoming community. The property features a well-thought-out layout, including a cozy living room with a wood stove, a dining area, and a kitchen equipped with a dining nook that provides direct access to and views of the garden. The bathroom and WC are conveniently located on the ground floor, alongside a small technical hall and laundry area with a secondary entrance, adding to the overall functionality. Upstairs, you'll find a night hall leading to four independent bedrooms, one of which has access to an attic that can be partially converted for additional space. The technical aspects of the house have been recently upgraded, including a new, sanded, and repointed façade, a new roof with insulation, triple-glazed PVC windows, functional chimneys, and photovoltaic panels—offering potential for further extension. The land measures approximately 840 m² and is complemented by a small stream that injects a peaceful, relaxing ambiance into the outdoor space. A large garage combining two spaces with a pit makes this property particularly appealing for car enthusiasts or DIY lovers. Located in Floreffe, this residence benefits from the village’s tranquil environment while remaining close to essential services and amenities. The house is set on a street that some might see as busy, but inside, you enter a bubble of warmth, light, and volume that will surprise you. The generous living space of 190 m² combined with four bedrooms provides ample room for comfortable living. The property’s outdoor features include a garden perfect for relaxation or gatherings, along with the practicality of water supply and off-street parking. Thanks to its blend of character features and modern upgrades, this home offers an excellent opportunity for buyers seeking a family-friendly property in one of the most appealing areas of Floreffe. For those interested in exploring this wonderful home further, professional contact is encouraged to arrange viewings or obtain more detailed information about this exceptional property. Want to know more?

Charming 3-fronted house in need of complete renovation, located in the secluded village of Oignies-en-Thiérache, highly sought-after for gîtes and vacation rentals. This dwelling offers great potential with its 3 bedrooms, entrance hall, large living room, kitchen, study, cellar, as well as several barns and attics for a total of around 400 m² of usable space. The property already has PVC double-glazed windows, a sewer connection and a roof structure in excellent condition (roofing to be reviewed). Set on two attractive plots totalling 410 m², including garage and garden. An ideal opportunity for investors! OFFER STARTING AT 90,000 EUROS. Subject to acceptance by the owners. ENERGY PERFORMANCE: PEB N°20250913007159 - PEB G - Energy spec: 683 kWh/m².an - Total E: 122,306 kWh/year Want to know more?

Discover a versatile investment opportunity in the charming town of Sombreffe with this mixed building offered at €199,000. Situated on Chaussée de Nivelles 30, this property comprises approximately 185 square meters spread across two levels. The building has previously undergone a division project into two separate dwellings, a process that will require re-application by the new owner with local urban planning authorities. This flexibility makes it an attractive option for investors or anyone seeking to develop a multifaceted residential project. The property is currently vacant and available for renovation, providing a blank canvas to tailor the space to specific needs or preferences. The building features several practical amenities that enhance its appeal. Its construction includes double-glazed wooden window frames, ensuring good insulation and natural light. The heating system runs on oil (mazout), offering reliable warmth for the colder months. Inside, there are cellars for storage and one toilet, while outside, the property boasts a manageable garden of 201 square meters along with a terrace of 8 square meters—perfect for outdoor leisure or gardening. Additionally, a garage with space for one vehicle is included, offering convenient parking and additional storage options. The overall condition is marked as "to renovate," giving prospective buyers the opportunity to upgrade the property according to their preferences. Located in Sombreffe, the property benefits from a peaceful and accessible environment, with easy access to local amenities and services. The site’s zoning and flood risk assessments indicate no significant concerns, making it suitable for various development plans. The absence of an elevator or modern certifications emphasizes its need for renovation but also highlights the potential for customization. Whether as an investment or a personal project, this property represents a promising opportunity in the region. Interested buyers are encouraged to contact us to explore this unique offering further and to initiate discussions about potential development or renovation plans. Want to know more?

Vos Agences Condrogest Dinant vous propose ce bungalow situé à Anseremme, au sein du domaine de la Tassenière (parc de loisirs), sur les hauteurs de Dinant. Le bien bénéficie d'une parcelle privative de 5 ares. Situation idéale, à proximité des commerces et des services. Nombreuses activités touristiques dans les alentours. Le bien convient parfaitement comme habitation principale (domiciliation accordée) ou seconde résidence. Composition : - Rez-de-chaussée : hall d'entrée avec WC indépendant, séjour avec espace cuisine, 2 chambres et salle de douche ; - Etage : hall de nuit et 1 chambre. Remarques : chauffage électrique et poêle à bois - belle terrasse exposée sud - habitable de suite - 2 emplacements de parking Want to know more?

Vos Agences Condrogest Dinant vous propose, au cœur d’un domaine résidentiel de vacances, ce charmant bungalow trois façades représentant une opportunité idéale tant pour une seconde résidence que pour un investissement à vocation touristique. Implanté dans un environnement verdoyant et particulièrement paisible, ce bien séduira les amateurs de nature, de calme et d’évasion. Son emplacement constitue un atout majeur : situé à proximité immédiate de la Meuse, au sein d’une région à forte attractivité touristique, il bénéficie d’un cadre privilégié propice à la détente. Les environs offrent une multitude d’activités de loisirs : promenades et randonnées, activités nautiques, découverte d’un riche patrimoine local ainsi que plaisirs de la gastronomie régionale. Vendu entièrement meublé, ce bungalow permet une prise de possession immédiate et une mise en location rapide si souhaité — un bien prêt à profiter, sans attendre. Composition: séjour lumineux avec un accès directe sur la terrasse, cuisine équipée, 2 chambres, et salle de bain. Remarques: châssis PVC double vitrage - chauffage par poêle à bois - place de parking. Want to know more?

Located in the peaceful and picturesque setting of Bièvre, this charming residence presents an excellent opportunity for those seeking a welcoming family home with ample outdoor space. Priced at €239,000, this house is perfectly suited for buyers looking for a combination of comfort, practicality, and a tranquil environment. The property is situated on a generous plot of approximately 746 m², offering a beautiful and flat garden that surrounds the house, providing a perfect setting for outdoor leisure, gardening, or entertaining guests. The house itself boasts a spacious living area of about 115 m² and features three bedrooms, making it ideal for families or those needing extra space. The residence is in excellent condition, built in 1985, with recent updates ensuring its energy efficiency and comfort. The house benefits from double-glazed PVC windows, a central heating system fueled by oil, and an electrical installation compliant with current standards, with a valid certificate until 2034. The interior layout includes a luminous living room with a wood stove, a fully equipped kitchen, and a bathroom with a bathtub and shower. Two toilets add to the convenience, and an attached garage with a laundry area enhances the practicality of daily living. Upstairs, a spacious attic offers potential for future development or storage, already insulated and fitted with lighting and electrical outlets. Outside, the house features a terrace of approximately 28 m² and several outdoor parking spaces, including a garage and additional parking spots for up to three vehicles. The property’s location is a considerable advantage, providing easy access to local amenities such as shops, schools, medical facilities, and the train station—all within walking distance—allowing residents to enjoy the countryside without sacrificing convenience. Bièvre itself offers a peaceful rural environment immersed in nature while remaining close to essential services and transportation links. The house’s orientation faces northwest, maximizing sunlight exposure to the front garden and terrace areas, making it an inviting spot for outdoor gatherings or simply relaxing in the fresh air. The well-maintained structure benefits from modern energy standards, with an EPC rating of D and primary energy consumption of 328 kWh/m²/year, ensuring both comfort and efficiency for the future owner. Construction features include a three-sided façade with a width of 15 meters, blending seamlessly into its surroundings while providing a solid foundation for family life. The house’s practical design and generous outdoor space make it suitable for various activities and future modifications. Given its combination of space, comfort, and location advantages, this property in Bièvre is an attractive option for those seeking a peaceful residential retreat with excellent connectivity. Interested buyers are encouraged to contact us for further information or to arrange a viewing to explore all the benefits this lovely home has to offer. Want to know more?

On Place Marie de Hongrie, your Mariembourg branch offers a building registered as a house and comprising two apartments, one of which is rented. The first, on the first floor, comprises an 18m² living room, dining room, fitted kitchen, shower room with WC, and bedroom. The second apartment (currently rented at 550 euros/month) is located on the second floor and is accessible via its own private hall. It comprises a landing with separate toilet, a 27m² living room, a fitted kitchen with utility room, two bedrooms, a bathroom with toilet, and benefits from a small terrace. Oil-fired central heating - 2 electric meters - wooden double glazing - mains drainage. Housing 1: PEB in G: 643 kWh/m².an - CO2 emission: 159 kgCO²/m².an - 20260129000112. Housing 2: PEB in E: 410 kWh/m².an - CO2 emission: 102 kgCO²/m².an - 20260130000282. Price except higher offer of 150.000€. The agent has no authority to decide on offers received. Address online at ### ### - ### - PURCHASE - RENTAL - SALE - INVESTMENT Want to know more?

DINANT: Close to the center and with a breathtaking view of the Meuse river, come and discover this charming, fully restored 3-bedroom house. You'll love its cosy charm, open fire, fully-equipped kitchen, lovely terrace and garden. To be discovered as soon as possible Want to know more?

Située sur les hauteurs du village de Heer, cette habitation de plain-pied offre une jolie vue et un cadre de vie paisible. Cette maison bénéficie d’une terrasse exposée plein sud avec vue, idéal pour profiter des beaux jours. Le bien dispose également d’un jardin entièrement clôturé, d’un carport et d’un garage. Dotée d’une pompe à chaleur réversible, d’un poêle à bois et de châssis double vitrage avec volets, celle-ci offre un confort au quotidien. Une belle opportunité dans un environnement calme et agréable ! COMPOSITION : Rez-de-chaussée : Hall d’entrée, séjour, cuisine équipée, 1 chambre, salle de bains, buanderie et WC. 1ier Etage : Grenier aménageable. Extérieur : Pergola, carport, garage et portail électrique. Want to know more?

Located in Seilles, less than 5 minutes from the center of Andenne and the E42, good village house with 3 facades in need of renovation. Set on a plot of land of 04 ares 55 centiares, it comprises on the ground floor an entrance hall, a living room, a dining room, a kitchen and a shower room. Upstairs, a night hall, two bedrooms and an office/dressing room. An attic, a vaulted cellar and an outside garage complete the description of this house. Equipment: PVC DV windows, Electricity not compliant, Eternit roof not insulated, CC town gas heating. Please make an offer of €125,000.00 subject to acceptance by the owners. Want to know more?

Easyhome vous présente une belle opportunité au cœur du charmant village de Vonêche, dans la commune de Beauraing. Implantée sur une parcelle de plus de 5 ares, cette maison offre un excellent potentiel, que ce soit pour une occupation personnelle ou un investissement. Le rez-de-chaussée, déjà partiellement rénové, se compose d’un lumineux séjour avec salle à manger, d’une spacieuse salle de douche, d’une chambre avec possibilité d’en aménager une seconde, ainsi que d’un espace cuisine à personnaliser selon vos envies. À l’étage, un niveau pré aménagé permet la création d’au minimum deux chambres supplémentaires ainsi qu’une salle de douche. Un grenier aménageable d’une superficie de plus de 60 m² offre encore de nombreuses possibilités. Les espaces cloisonnés, les évacuations ainsi que la tuyauterie mises en place constituent un réel atout pour finaliser le bien comme il vous plaira. Idéalement située à proximité immédiate de Beauraing et de toutes ses commodités, la maison bénéficie également de nombreux points forts : châssis PVC double vitrage récents, chaudière récente de 2018, électricité conforme jusqu'en 2046. Prix demandé : 155.000 € (sous réserve d’acceptation des propriétaires). Une opportunité à ne pas manquer qui n'attend plus que les amateurs de projets à finaliser ! Want to know more?

WEPION, attractive 3-sided HOUSE (1 bedroom + study + 1 shower room), without garden, built on a 100 m² plot. The entrance opens onto a reception hall with a separate toilet opposite. To the right of the hall is the living room, followed by the kitchen, arranged in a row. From the kitchen, one door leads to the bathroom and another to a study. The study has an opening onto a bedroom located upstairs (for which a staircase will need to be installed). The layout thus offers a living space on the ground floor, complemented by a study area and a bedroom accessible via a separate staircase; it also includes a cellar. No central heating system (radiators already installed) - Electric boiler. PEB G 618 kWh/m²/year - 57673 kWh/year - No. 20260217023247. Discover it at L&P on 081/303 404! Want to know more?

Discover a unique investment opportunity in the charming town of Havelange with this property listed at €75,000. Situated at Avenue de Criel 12, this property sits on a generous parcel of 11 ares 45 centiares (1145 m²), offering significant potential for development or renovation. The building is currently in a raw state, with its structural shell open and requiring stabilization, which makes it an ideal project for investors, developers, or individuals looking to create a custom residence or commercial space. The strategic location at the entrance of Havelange ensures easy access to local amenities such as shops and main routes, providing both convenience and visibility. Its flexible condition allows for various possibilities, including complete restoration into a single-family home, conversion into a commercial or mixed-use venture, or even developing new housing units, depending on your vision and requirements. The property benefits from a dispensation of PEB certification from the Walloon Region due to its current state, indicating that specific energy efficiency certifications are not required at this stage. The building features four facades and two floors, with a total living area that can be tailored according to future plans. Although the interior details are limited, it offers a blank canvas for customization, with a single bedroom currently noted and no furnishings included. The absence of heating specifications or additional installations presents further scope for modernization according to modern standards and personal preferences. The surrounding environment is characterized by open space and a quiet setting, making this an attractive proposition for those seeking to develop a residential or commercial project in a peaceful yet accessible location. This property’s versatility and strategic positioning make it a promising investment. Whether you envision transforming it into a bespoke home or capitalizing on its commercial potential, its prime location coupled with the sizeable plot offers ample opportunities. Prospective buyers and developers are encouraged to contact us at ### to arrange a viewing or obtain further information. This is a rare chance to acquire a substantial piece of land with an adaptable structure in Havelange, perfectly suited for creative development or renovation projects that can maximize the site’s full potential. Don’t miss out on this exceptional opportunity to shape a distinctive property in a desirable Belgian locale. Want to know more?

House with 4 facades close to all amenities. Located in a pleasant environment and close to all amenities, this 4-sided house offers spacious rooms and good potential. It offers 130 m² of living space, including a 31 m² living room. The outdoor spaces include a terrace and a garden, all on a plot of 805 m². The property has 2 bedrooms, a bathroom, a separate toilet, a garage, as well as a cellar and an attic, offering additional storage space. PEB : F Ideal for a home project that can be customized to suit your needs. Want to know more?

Discover this charming residence located in the heart of Tamines, a delightful town setting that combines practicality with comfort. Priced at €249,000, this inviting property offers a spacious and versatile living environment with a total living area of approximately 159 square meters. Situated on a manageable 153-square-meter plot, the house balances indoor comfort with outdoor leisure, including a beautiful garden and a covered terrace ideal for summer evenings and outdoor gatherings. The property features four bedrooms, providing ample space for family life or guests, along with a well-designed layout that caters to various needs. The ground floor welcomes you with a warm, bright living room that can double as a professional workspace, such as for therapists or speech therapists, depending on your lifestyle. This seamlessly extends into a convivial dining area and an adaptable kitchen that can be tailored to your preferences. A modern bathroom equipped with a shower completes the main level. Ascending to the upper floors, you'll find a practical hall of night, a handy dressing room, and two generous bedrooms. The second floor offers additional flexibility with two more bedrooms or the potential to create a master suite. The house also boasts a functional basement cellar, perfect for storage or additional utility space. The technical features are up-to-date, with a new tiled roof on the main structure and recent annex roofing including insulation, new aluminum window frames in sleek black, and a central gas heating system that ensures comfort throughout the year. Electrical installations are recent and reliable, complemented by a rainwater collection tank for eco-friendly water management. Outside, the property truly shines with its city garden—an urban oasis reminiscent of magazine features—featuring landscaped areas, mature trees, and a cozy sitting area, perfect for relaxing or entertaining. Additional amenities include a dependance and secondary access points, enhancing the property's functionality. Tamines itself offers excellent proximity to essential amenities, making daily life convenient without the need for a car. Everything from train stations, schools, shops, and local services can be reached comfortably on foot, creating an ideal environment for those seeking both tranquility and accessibility. This property is truly move-in ready, combining modern upgrades with charming character and practical outdoor space. Whether you're seeking a family home or a versatile residence with potential for customization, this house offers an exceptional opportunity in Tamines. Contact us today for more information or to arrange a viewing; this welcoming home awaits its new owners! Want to know more?