Charming home in an excellent location near Mechelen This home enjoys a particularly convenient location in Muizen, just a stone’s throw from Mechelen. Thanks to easy access to major highways, the train station, shops, schools, and public transportation, this location combines excellent accessibility with a pleasant living environment. Through the entry hall, you enter the cozy living area, which opens onto the kitchen and the bathroom on the ground floor. On the first floor, there are two full-sized bedrooms. A fixed staircase leads to the attic, which can be perfectly used as a third bedroom or customized to your own preferences. Additionally, the windows have recently been replaced, and the electrical system has been brought up to current standards, adding significant value. Are you looking for a home with a prime location, a practical layout, and upgrades already in place? Then this is the ideal opportunity for first-time buyers, investors, or anyone who would like to further customize their own home. Want to know more?
House for sale - less than 400000 euros - Mechelen
Ben je op zoek naar een rustig gelegen woning vlakbij Mechelen centrum met 3 slaapkamers? Dan is dit exact wat je zoekt! Deze woning geniet van veel lichtinval, heeft 3 slaapkamers, een zolderuimte en bovendien zit je op wandelafstand van het centrum en op fietsafstand van het natuurdomein 'Mechels Broek'. Ideaal voor wie geniet van rust maar toch alles vlakbij wil hebben. Op de gelijkvloers vindt u de inkomhal, een ruime leef- en eetruimte, keuken, en een badkamer met douche, toilet en lavabo. De eetkeuken geeft toegang tot het terras. Het 1ste verdiep omvat 2 ruime slaapkamers. De zolderverdieping beschikt over 1 slaapkamer en een aparte, ruimte (bergzolder). Woning met 3 slaapkamers nabij centrum Mechelen, met een vlotte verbinding naar de R6 en het openbaar vervoer (bus en station Nekkerspoel voor de trein). Ideale investering om zelf te wonen, te verhuren of te renoveren. Op amper 3 minuutjes ben je met de fiets in centrum Mechelen. Het natuurdomein Mechels Broek bereikt u op 15 minuutjes fietsen. Aarzel niet ons te contacteren (telefonisch ### of per mail ### ) om een afspraak in te plannen. Want to know more?
Looking for a charming, fully renovated home in a prime location? This turnkey townhouse offers a unique open view of the Leuvense Vaart and is within walking distance of the bustling city center. Moreover, you can reach the E19 motorway within minutes. Through the entrance hall we enter the house. To the left is the cozy and bright living room, where it is pleasant to stay. Then we find the fully equipped kitchen. There is also a separate guest toilet on the ground floor. On the mezzanine floor there is a first full bedroom. The second floor has a second spacious bedroom and a bathroom, equipped with a bathtub, sink and toilet. The second floor offers two additional full-fledged bedrooms, ideal for a larger family, an office or hobby room. Furthermore, the house features a practical basement, ideal as storage space. Details: -Beautiful open view of the canal -4 full bedrooms -EPC B (132 KWH/m² year) -Stated dimensions are indicative Are you looking for a property that perfectly combines charm, space and location? Then contact Heylen Vastgoed quickly and discover this unique opportunity! Want to know more?
Open house day on Saturday 14 March from 3:30 - 4:30 p.m Discover this versatile property located in the Keizerstraat, an absolute prime location in the bustling center of Mechelen. All stores, restaurants, public transport and other amenities are within walking distance. The property offers numerous possibilities for those looking for a project with potential. On the ground floor there is room for a bright living space with open kitchen, ideal for creating a modern and cozy living environment. In addition, there is a separate guest toilet. To the rear of the property there is also a bathroom. The property has three spacious bedrooms which makes this property perfect for starters, couples or investors. There is also an attic that is ideal for storage. Details: -Top location -Home with a lot of potential -Was a commercial house and is now licensed as a residence -Dimensions are indicative -EPC C ( 227 KWH/m² year) Are you looking for a property that you can furnish completely to your own taste in an excellent location? Contact Heylen Vastgoed today! Want to know more?
Voor verdere info of een vrijblijvende waardebepaling van uw eigendom: ### of ### In de charmante Nekkerspoelstraat te Mechelen stellen we u graag deze karaktervolle gesloten bebouwing voor. Met een bewoonbare oppervlakte van 107 m² op een perceel van 70 m² biedt deze woning een uitstekende basis voor wie op zoek is naar een renovatieproject op een toplocatie. De woning beschikt over een praktisch ingedeelde leefruimte met aansluitend de keuken en twee toiletten. In de badkamer is er tevens een handige wasplaats voorzien. Op de bovenverdieping bevinden zich drie slaapkamers en via een vaste trap bereikt u de zolder, die bijkomende mogelijkheden biedt om extra ruimte te creëren. Een van de grootste troeven van deze eigendom is de inpandige garage met één autostaanplaats, een zeldzame én uiterst waardevolle troef zo dicht bij het bruisende centrum van Mechelen. Geen garage nodig? Dan kan de leefruimte een enorme upgrade krijgen door deze ruimte eraan te integreren. Dankzij de gunstige ligging nabij het centrum, openbaar vervoer en winkels, vormt deze woning de ideale opportuniteit om een energiezuinige thuis volledig naar eigen wens en smaak te realiseren. Want to know more?
This charming residence, located at Fortuinstraat 75 in Mechelen, offers a comfortable living space of 160 m² set on a 105 m² plot. Priced at €367,000, this well-maintained home built in 1940 presents an excellent opportunity for buyers seeking a residence in a quiet, residential neighborhood close to the vibrant city center. The property comprises four bedrooms and one bathroom, complemented by two separate toilets. The interior features a versatile ground-floor room that was formerly a garage but now serves as a bedroom; this space can also be adapted into an office or hobby room according to your needs. The cozy living and dining area seamlessly connects to a fully equipped kitchen, which leads out to a pleasant city courtyard, adding outdoor charm to the home. The practical layout continues with an adjacent storage room fitted with laundry connections and additional storage space, plus a guest toilet for convenience. On the first floor, you will find the bathroom equipped with a bathtub with shower, a sink, and a toilet, along with a spacious bedroom. The second floor hosts two more bedrooms and provides access to the attic, offering extra storage possibilities. Additional highlights include four solar panels contributing to energy efficiency, gas heating, a compliant electrical installation certificate, and both a cellar and an attic that enhance storage options. The orientation of the front facade is northeast, and the property spans two floors with a facade width of 5 meters. The house is ready for occupancy upon deed transfer and is currently not rented. Situated in a residential zone free from flood risk, this property benefits from close proximity to shops, schools, restaurants, and other daily amenities. Its favorable location ensures easy access to Mechelen’s train station and major roads leading to Antwerp and Brussels. Recreational spots such as Vrijbroekpark and the bustling city center are nearby, providing residents with both natural beauty and urban conveniences within easy reach. This home offers an ideal blend of practicality and location for families or professionals alike. For further information or to arrange a viewing of this residence in Mechelen, please do not hesitate to contact us. Want to know more?
Open building on nine acre lot in Mice This open building is located on the Leuvensesteenweg in Muizen. An excellent location that enjoys easy accessibility by car and public transport. Just a few minutes from the property you get to the E19 Antwerp / Brussels and the connection to Mechelen and Leuven is excellent. Furthermore, stores and schools are within walking and biking distance from the property. The center of Mechelen is just ten minutes from the house by bike or public transport. The home is located entirely on the ground floor. The bright, spacious living room and updated kitchen are located at the front. The two bedrooms and the bathroom are located at the back of the house overlooking the garden. The house also has a spacious basement. There is no shortage of parking thanks to the deep driveway and garage at the back of the house. Furthermore, it is great to relax and in the very large garden which, thanks to its southern orientation, is always in the sun. Classification - entrance hall - living room - kitchen - bedroom 1 - bedroom 2 - bathroom - night hall Advantages - large plot of 9 ares - multiple parking spaces - excellent connection to major cities Want to know more?
Charming starter home with 3 bedrooms and cozy garden An ideal home for starters or an excellent opportunity as an investment for rental! Through the entrance hall you enter the bright, open living space that can be perfectly arranged as a dining room and lounge. Adjacent is the spacious kitchen with practical storage room. From the hallway with large built-in cupboard you have access to the storage room, the bathroom and the lovely garden. The garden can also be accessed from the side of the house and has a garden shed ideal for bikes and gardening equipment. Additional storage space can be found in the dry cellar. On the first floor there are two full bedrooms. The third bedroom is located on the attic floor and has built-in closets under the sloping roof. The house is equipped with solar panels with battery, as well as air conditioning and heating systems in the living space and bedroom which provides additional comfort and energy efficiency. Located in a green and quiet area and yet close to roads such as R6, stores and the cycle path Mechelen-Antwerp. Within walking distance there is also the new bridge forest with various walking and playing facilities. Want to know more?
This charming family residence located at Moerbeistraat 20 in Hombeek offers a wonderful opportunity to acquire a well-maintained home in a peaceful and friendly neighborhood. Priced at €275,000, this property features a spacious living area of 150 m² set on a 167 m² plot. Built in 1974, the house includes three full bedrooms and one bathroom, offering ample space for family living. The ground floor comprises an entrance hall with guest toilet, an indoor garage, a practical laundry/technical room, and a tranquil garden with a terrace, ideal for quiet relaxation. The first floor hosts a bright living room connected to a partially equipped kitchen, creating a pleasant living environment. The home benefits from several attractive features such as double-glazed PVC windows, an insulated roof, and central heating powered by oil. The presence of a fireplace adds an element of warmth and comfort. A private parking spot is available outside, complementing the indoor garage. Importantly, the property holds an EPC label C with an energy consumption of 239 kWh/m² annually, and it is not subject to any renovation obligations. The flood risk is minimal with both land and building rated A scores, ensuring peace of mind for future occupants. Situated in a calm and child-friendly area near the center of Hombeek, this residence combines comfort with convenience. The neighborhood’s tranquility and proximity to local amenities make it an ideal choice for starters or as an investment. With availability upon deed and no VAT applicable, this property represents excellent value in today’s market. Interested parties are encouraged to schedule a viewing appointment to fully appreciate the many advantages this home has to offer. Please contact us to arrange your visit and explore the potential of this attractive family dwelling. Want to know more?
Voor verdere info of een vrijblijvende waardebepaling van uw eigendom: ### of ### Bent u op zoek naar een ruime woning die u volledig naar uw eigen hand kunt zetten? Homixx Vastgoed stelt u met trots deze charmante woning voor in de Arendonckstraat te Mechelen. Gelegen in een rustige straat, maar toch uiterst strategisch ten opzichte van verbindingswegen, scholen en winkels, biedt dit pand met een bewoonbare oppervlakte van 122 m² een fantastische basis om uw droomwoning te realiseren. Bij het betreden van de woning valt meteen de aangename, lichtrijke keuken op die het hart van de woning vormt. Gelijkvloers vindt u verder een gezellige veranda, die slim is uitgerust met een geïntegreerde berging en wasplaats. Vanuit deze ruimte stapt u zo het lichte terras op, waar u in alle rust kunt genieten. Daarnaast beschikt de woning over een droge kelder die extra opbergruimte biedt. Op de bovenliggende verdiepingen bevinden zich maar liefst 4 volwaardige slaapkamers, een functionele badkamer en in totaal 2 toiletten. De zolder biedt bovendien nog extra potentieel voor uitbreiding of opslag. Dankzij de gunstige EPC-score C bent u bovendien al verzekerd van een energiebewuste start zonder renovatieverplichting. De belangrijkste troeven op een rij: Strategische toplocatie: Gelegen in een gegeerde buurt te Mechelen met alle voorzieningen en invalswegen in de directe nabijheid. Ruimte voor het hele gezin: Met 4 slaapkamers en een praktische indeling is er aan ruimte geen gebrek. Veel potentieel: Dankzij de stevige basis en de zolderruimte kunt u de woning volledig naar eigen smaak moderniseren. Want to know more?
Open house day on Saturday 14 March from 2 p.m. - 3 p.m In the quiet Veldenstraat in Mechelen you will find this pleasant family home with lots of space and comfort. The house has four full bedrooms and two bathrooms, each equipped with shower and sink ideal for a large family or those who love extra comfort. The bright kitchen blends nicely into the living area and overlooks the spacious garden, where you can enjoy the outdoors in peace. There is also a basement, ideal for stock or extra storage. Thanks to its convenient location, you live here in a quiet residential area within walking distance of stores, schools, public transport and the Vrijbroek Park. Moreover, you can reach the train station or the E19 in a few minutes. Additional information: -EPC: C -The property is currently declared uninhabitable due to a negative electrical inspection. The installation will be modified so that it can be approved in accordance with regulations. -Pending electrical re-inspection, asbestos certificate and city planning information. -All measurements given are indicative Want to know more?
Woning met 4 slp'ers en gezellige stadstuin te Mechelen. Deze nog deels te renoveren eengezinswoning is gelegen aan de stadsrand van Mechelen. Ontdek deze charmante, deels te renoveren woning met maar liefst 4 slaapkamers en een zeer ruime kelder die rechtstreeks toegang biedt tot de tuin. Deze gezellige stadstuin is absoluut één van de extra troeven van deze woning. Het huis heeft een grote, droge inpandige kelder met extra opbergruimte/wasplaats. De ligging is eveneens een pluspunt: op wandelafstand van het centrum en een prima verbinding naar autostrade. (Mobiscore 9,4) Dit karaktervolle pand met hoge plafonds werd reeds deels gerenoveerd (verdieping 1 en 2). Het gelijkvloers omvat een woonkamer met ruime aanpalende keuken en kan mits de nodige renovatie door de onmiddellijke connectie met de tuin een pareltje worden. Maak snel een afspraak en laat je aangenaam verrassen. Meer info en/of een bezoek ter plaatse, aarzel niet en contacteer ons kantoor te Mechelen op ### Want to know more?
Cozy 3-bedroom starter home in the heart of Mechelen-Noord Are you looking for a charming starter home or an attractive investment? Then this cozy home in Mechelen-Noord is definitely worth a visit! The home is located on a quiet street in Mechelen-Noord, a pleasant neighborhood with excellent accessibility. Shops, schools, public transportation, and major thoroughfares are just a stone’s throw away, so you’ll have all your daily amenities right at your fingertips. You enter the home through the entryway. Here you’ll immediately find an additional multipurpose room that can perfectly serve as a bedroom, home office, hobby room, or practical storage space—fully customizable to your own preferences. You’ll then find yourself in the bright, open living area, where coziness and comfort take center stage. Thanks to its pleasant layout, this space forms the beating heart of the home and is ideal for relaxing or entertaining guests. Adjacent to this is the exceptionally spacious kitchen, a real asset for those who love to cook or appreciate plenty of workspace. Here, you can prepare culinary creations to your heart’s content and enjoy all the space you need. Behind the kitchen, you’ll find a completely renovated bathroom, equipped with a stylish walk-in shower, a bathtub, a modern vanity with a sink, and a lighted mirror. In addition, the home features a cozy city terrace, where you can enjoy a cup of coffee or a sunny afternoon in peace and quiet. The spacious master bedroom is located on the first floor. From this bedroom, you can access the second floor, where a versatile landing can perfectly serve as an office, walk-in closet, or hobby room. You’ll also find a second, spacious bedroom here. In short, this move-in-ready home combines a surprisingly spacious feel, a practical layout, and an excellent location in a popular neighborhood of Mechelen-Noord. Ideal as a first home or as an investment with great potential. Interested? Contact us today and schedule your visit right away! Want to know more?
Are you looking for an attractive investment that offers immediate rental income and future potential? Then this property at Hombeeksesteenweg 273 in Mechelen is definitely worth a visit. This property is currently divided into two rented residential units and therefore immediately generates a stable return. According to data from the city of Mechelen, the property is officially registered as a residence, which offers additional prospects for the future. On the ground floor is a well-maintained one-bedroom apartment with a pleasant private garden. The duplex upstairs features two bedrooms and a sunny terrace, providing an attractive living experience for the tenants. The location is a major asset. Just a few minutes by bike will take you to the historic center of Mechelen with its shops, restaurants, and cultural attractions. For relaxation, the popular Vrijbroekpark is a mere three-minute walk away. Furthermore, the property benefits from easy access to major thoroughfares, public transportation, and schools. This property combines a prime location, immediate rental income, and promising future potential, making it particularly attractive to both investors and buyers with a long-term vision. Would you like more information or to schedule a visit? Call Lauren at Gilles Vastgoed at ### Want to know more?
Welkom bij uw toekomstige thuis, waar comfort, modern woonplezier en energiezuinigheid perfect samenkomen. Homixx Vastgoed stelt u deze instapklare en prachtig afgewerkte gesloten bebouwing voor. Gelegen in een rustige straat nabij winkels, scholen en het bruisende hart van Mechelen, biedt deze woning met een comfortabele bewoonbare oppervlakte van 117 vierkante meter alles wat u zoekt voor een zorgeloos stadsleven. Bij het betreden van de woning valt meteen het aangename licht- en ruimtegevoel op. De gezellige eetkamer loopt naadloos over in een moderne, open keuken die volledig is uitgerust. Slim omgaan met ruimte staat hier centraal; zo is er onder de trap een uiterst praktische berging ingericht die perfect dienstdoet als wasplaats. Op het eerste verdiep tref je een ruime woonkamer, waar ruimte genoeg om ook een home office in te richten. Op de 2de verdieping bevinden zich twee ruime slaapkamers. Beide kamers zijn voorzien van screens aan de ramen, waardoor het binnen heerlijk koel en donker blijft wanneer u dat wenst. Verder beschikt de woning over een ingerichte badkamer en twee aparte toiletten, verspreid over de verdiepingen. Ook op technisch vlak blinkt deze woning uit. Dankzij de aanwezigheid van zonnepanelen en airconditioning geniet u het hele jaar door van een perfect binnenklimaat met een minimaal verbruik. Dit vertaalt zich dan ook in een gunstige EPC-score B. (107kWh) Een unieke kans op een energiezuendige, instapklare thuis op een absolute toplocatie! Want to know more?
Are you looking for a home that you can decorate completely to your own taste? Then this terraced house at Nekkerspoelstraat 172, Mechelen is an excellent opportunity. Thanks to its central location and practical layout, this property offers a lot of potential for starters, families or investors. Thanks to its convenient location, you are a short distance from stores, schools, public transport and the historic city center of Mechelen. In addition, you enjoy a smooth connection to important access roads. Upon entering the house, you enter the front courtyard, which can serve as a reception or sitting area. Furthermore, the ground floor features a living and dining area, a kitchen, a bathroom, a convenient storage room and a separate toilet. The spaces present provide a solid basis for creating a contemporary and comfortable living environment. On the second floor are two bedrooms, one of which is currently set up as a walk-through room. An absolute asset is the fixed staircase to the attic floor. This space can still be completely arranged as desired and offers the possibility of additional bedrooms, an office or hobby room. Want to know more?
Charmante renovatiewoning met 2 ruime slaapkamers op een topligging in het centrum van Mechelen. BEKIJK ZEKER ONZE (VIRTUELE) GRONDPLANNEN EN ATTESTEN VOOR DE INDELING EN EXTRA INFORMATIE. Bent u op zoek naar een charmante stadswoning met veel potentieel op een absolute toplocatie? Dan is deze renovatiewoning in het hart van Mechelen zeker een bezoek waard. De woning beschikt over twee ruime slaapkamers en vormt de ideale starterswoning of een interessante investering. Dankzij het volledig vernieuwde dak in 2025 en de uitstekende ligging op wandelafstand van winkels, scholen, openbaar vervoer, horeca en parken geniet u hier van alle troeven van het stadsleven. ALGEMENE KENMERKEN: Charmante stadswoning met 2 ruime slaapkamers Ideaal als starterswoning of interessante investering/opbrengsteigendom Volledig vernieuwd dak in 2025 Uitstekend gelegen in het bruisende centrum van Mechelen Op wandelafstand van winkels, scholen, openbaar vervoer, horeca en parken TECHNISCHE KENMERKEN: EPC-score: 398 kWh/(m²/jaar) – Label D Elektrische installatie niet conform AREI Asbestveilig Verwarming op aardgas via radiatoren Kelder van ca. 16 m² INDELING: Gelijkvloers Leefruimte Keuken Badkamer Eerste verdieping Eerste slaapkamer van ca. 16 m² Tweede verdieping Tweede slaapkamer van ca. 16 m² Want to know more?
This spacious residence for sale in Mechelen offers an exceptional opportunity with its generous 239 m² of living space distributed over three floors, including five bedrooms and a single bathroom. Priced at €325,000, this property located at Kanunnik de Deckerstraat 68 is characterized by its traditional structure dating back to 1899 and requires renovation, allowing the new owner to tailor the home to personal tastes and modern standards. The layout features a large entrance hall with a guest toilet on the ground floor, along with an open dining and living area that leads to a bright, roomy kitchen. A terrace and city garden provide ample outdoor space suitable for family gatherings or relaxation during warmer months. The house includes two toilets and practical storage areas such as a cellar and garden storage, while heating is provided by electricity. On the first floor, there are two large bedrooms each accompanied by adjacent dressing rooms, with an additional separate storage room that formerly served as a second bathroom. The second floor contains three further spacious bedrooms, one of which includes a mezzanine that can be used as an extra attic room. A bathroom equipped with a shower, toilet, and sink is also located on this level. Additional storage is accessible via a ladder from the landing leading to an attic space. The property's northern orientation and two-facade frontage enhance its natural lighting while providing good structural dimensions on a total plot size of 123 m². The house is not located within any flood risk zone. Located centrally in Mechelen, this residence benefits from proximity to key amenities including the main market square, shops, public transportation, schools, and parking facilities—all within walking distance. The property is currently unoccupied and free for immediate sale with no VAT applicable. It has an official energy performance certificate (EPC) rating of 713 kWh/m²/year with label F, valid until December 2034. Prospective buyers interested in exploring this uniquely spacious property that blends historical charm with renovation potential are encouraged to contact VMV-Vastgoed for a viewing or free valuation at ### or ### . This is an excellent chance to create a customized family home in a well-situated urban environment. Want to know more?
Are you looking for a solid home that you can transform into your dream home with a modest budget and a contemporary interior? Then this charming townhouse is the perfect opportunity. Thanks to its solid construction and practical layout, you can easily give this property a fresh, modern look. Highlights • EPC rating C (no renovation obligation) • Asbestos-safe • 3 spacious bedrooms • Sunny terrace The cosy living room with dining area connects seamlessly to the fully equipped kitchen, which opens onto the sunny terrace. The property also features a well-maintained bathroom and two spacious bedrooms on the first floor, one of which includes an adjoining dressing room or home office. With some renovation, this additional room could easily be converted into a second bathroom. The attic offers the perfect opportunity to create a third bedroom, hobby room or additional storage space. The house also benefits from a practical cellar and a covered outdoor storage area. The property is within walking distance of the Mechelen Canal, a wonderful location for walking, jogging or relaxing by the water. At the same time, the vibrant city centre of Mechelen, with its shops, schools and public transport, is just a short distance away. Interested? Contact us by phone to arrange a personal viewing. Want to know more?
Discover an exceptional renovation opportunity in the vibrant city of Mechelen with this charming residence located at Battelsesteenweg 123. Priced at €219,000, this property offers a unique chance for buyers to create their ideal home from a blank canvas. Built in 1874, the house boasts a traditional façade with two façades, providing a classic architectural appeal. Although it requires refurbishment, it presents a promising project with considerable potential to customize according to personal preferences. The residence features approximately 92 square meters of gross living space, with a practical layout that includes three bedrooms, a living area of around 29 square meters, and a kitchen measuring 8 square meters. The property is currently unoccupied, available for possession upon the signing of the deed, and offers ample scope for renovation to meet contemporary standards. Inside, the house comprises a straightforward yet flexible floor plan that includes a welcoming entrance hall, a living room that can serve as the heart of the home, and a kitchen that opens to a small terrace and garden space. The garden measures approximately 26 square meters and is complemented by an outdoor storage shed, perfect for gardening enthusiasts or outdoor leisure activities. The first floor hosts a primary bedroom along with an additional bedroom accessible via a fixed staircase leading to the attic, which provides extra storage space. The property features one bathroom and benefits from essential connections such as gas and water supply. It is important to note that the electrical installation certificate does not meet current standards, indicating that electrical upgrades will be necessary during renovation. Nestled in the lively city of Mechelen, this residence offers excellent access to local amenities, including shops, schools, and public transport options, facilitating an easy urban lifestyle. The neighborhood combines the advantages of city living with the potential for a personalized project, allowing future owners to tailor their home to their taste and needs. Despite its condition requiring significant renovation, it holds considerable appeal for those who enjoy DIY projects and creative possibilities. This property is an exceptional entry point into real estate investment or homeownership in Mechelen, offering both character and potential at an attractive price. To explore this opportunity further, interested buyers are encouraged to contact us promptly for viewings and additional information. Don't miss your chance to transform this historic residence into a distinctive family home or investment project in one of Belgium's most dynamic cities. Want to know more?