Discover this charming residence for sale in the peaceful locality of Hansbeke, situated at Herman Lovelingstraat 1C. Priced at €445,000, this property offers an excellent opportunity for buyers seeking a well-designed home in a tranquil setting. The property is a new build, not currently rented, and features a practical layout with three bedrooms and one bathroom, providing comfortable accommodation suitable for families or individuals looking for spacious living space. Its modern construction and thoughtful design ensure energy efficiency, with an E20 energy performance certificate, highlighting its sustainability credentials. The house boasts two facades and a south-west-facing garden, perfect for enjoying outdoor activities and relaxing in the open air. The total land surface area is 213 m², offering a manageable outdoor space that combines privacy and outdoor living potential. Located in Nevele, Hansbeke offers an ideal blend of serenity and accessibility. The area is characterized by quiet streets and green zones that promote a peaceful lifestyle, while still being close to local amenities essential for everyday life. Within walking distance, residents will find shops, schools, and hospitality venues that cater to daily needs and social activities. The neighborhood's design emphasizes sustainability and energy efficiency, with features such as solar panels and geothermal technology that contribute to lower energy costs and a smaller ecological footprint. This focus on eco-friendly living makes the property appealing to environmentally conscious buyers seeking a modern, sustainable residence in a welcoming community. If you are interested or have questions about this property, further information is readily available. You can visit the dedicated website at ### or contact their sales consultant directly at ### for a no-obligation consultation. Whether you are looking for a stylish family home or an energy-efficient residence in a quiet yet accessible area, this property in Hansbeke represents an excellent opportunity to invest in quality Belgian real estate. Don't miss your chance to explore this exceptional property—schedule a visit today and take the first step toward making this house your new home. Want to know more?
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Single-story home in a quiet location in Poesele, Deinze This open-plan home, situated on a 1,102 m² lot, is located on a quiet street on the outskirts of the village center of the charming and green town of Poesele. Layout: Entrance hall – bright living room with sitting and dining areas – kitchen – 3 bedrooms – storage room – bathroom (double sink, tub, and shower) – toilet – garage and laundry room The garage provides access to a very spacious attic, which can be further converted. The garden offers complete peace and privacy! The garden shed and detached garage provide additional storage options. Highlights: - Very quiet location - Cozy, recently installed wood-burning stove in the living room (2022) - Very spacious attic with numerous possibilities - Easily adaptable floor plan Information: - EPC: label: F | 853 kWh/m²/year - Urban Planning: Vg - WgLk - Gmo - Gvkr - Vv - Water Assessment: plot score A | building score A - The above-mentioned area refers to the gross area as stated in the EPC certificate - This property is subject to the renovation requirement imposed by the Flemish Government. Visit the website of the Flemish Energy and Climate Agency for more information. Would you like to be surprised by the many possibilities this home has to offer? Don’t hesitate to contact Ellen: ### or ### Want to know more?
Deze hedendaagse drie gevel nieuwbouwwoning kan u gerealiseerd worden volgens meest energiezuinige norm, dankzij warmtepomp met vloerverwarming. Ventilatie D, driedubbele beglazing en 12 zonnepanelen. De woning kan nog volgens uw smaak worden aangepast, zowel qua architectuur, indeling als afwerking. De prijs bedraagt ALL-IN : € 594.291 (Grond + registratiekosten + notaris + woning + 21% btw + aansluiting nutsvoorzieningen). Meer info? Contacteer ons via ### of bel : ### Want to know more?
Discover this exceptional residence for sale in Hansbeke, a meticulously designed home offering a perfect blend of energy efficiency and modern comfort. Priced at €489,000, this property is an ideal choice for those seeking a sustainable and stylish family residence. Located at Aldegondekenpark 17, this semi-detached house stands out with its eco-friendly features, including a low E-peil of E20 achieved through geothermie, solar panels, and thoughtful architectural planning. These elements ensure low energy consumption and reduced living costs, making it a forward-thinking choice for environmentally conscious buyers. With three bedrooms and a well-appointed bathroom, this property provides ample space for family living, complemented by its welcoming garden oriented towards the southeast, perfect for outdoor relaxation and enjoying natural sunlight throughout the day. The house boasts three facades, enhancing natural light and ventilation, while the spacious garden offers a tranquil outdoor retreat. The total plot size of 378 m² provides plenty of room for outdoor activities, gardening, or future expansion. The residence’s construction emphasizes durability and low maintenance, aligning with modern standards for sustainable building practices. Its location in Hansbeke is highly attractive: a peaceful community that balances rural charm with convenient access to local amenities. Within walking distance, residents will find shops, schools, and horeca establishments, all nestled within a green and quiet environment. The surrounding area offers a perfect setting for families looking for tranquility without sacrificing essential services. This property is currently listed as a new build and is not rented out, presenting an excellent opportunity for immediate ownership. The absence of a certificate for the electrical installation does not detract from the overall quality of the home, which is built to high standards of modern construction. For prospective buyers interested in a sustainable lifestyle combined with comfort and practicality, this residence in Hansbeke represents an outstanding investment. To learn more or to arrange a visit, please visit ### or contact our sales consultants at ### Don’t miss this chance to acquire a beautifully crafted, energy-efficient home in a serene setting—your new chapter begins here. Want to know more?
Discover a remarkable opportunity to own a beautifully designed residence in the charming town of Hansbeke, offered at €478,000. This property stands out not only for its prime location but also for its energy-efficient features and modern architecture. Situated at Aldegondekenpark 19, this home benefits from a thoughtfully planned layout and sustainable features, making it an ideal choice for those seeking comfort, functionality, and eco-conscious living. With a total living area that complements its contemporary design, this residence seamlessly combines practicality with aesthetic appeal, ensuring a high-quality lifestyle for its occupants. This house is a semi-detached property with three bedrooms and one bathroom, offering a spacious and flexible interior suitable for families or individuals looking for a comfortable home. The lot encompasses 289 square meters of land, including a southeast-facing garden that provides a lovely outdoor space for relaxation and entertainment. The architectural design emphasizes energy efficiency, achieving an E20 energy performance level through the integration of geothermic heating, solar panels, and carefully considered construction techniques. These features not only reduce the environmental footprint but also contribute to significantly lowering energy costs, ensuring sustainable living without compromising on comfort. The property’s three exterior walls and well-proportioned layout enhance its appeal, while the garden offers a private oasis where residents can enjoy outdoor activities or unwind amidst nature. Located in Nevele Loveling, the property benefits from a peaceful environment with excellent accessibility. The area combines tranquility with convenience, featuring green spaces, low-traffic streets, and proximity to essential amenities such as shops, schools, and restaurants. This harmonious balance makes it an ideal setting for families or anyone desiring a quiet life with all necessary services within easy reach. The neighborhood's welcoming atmosphere, coupled with the energy-efficient features of the home, positions this residence as an excellent investment opportunity. For further information or to arrange a viewing, interested buyers are encouraged to visit ### or contact their sales consultant at ### Don’t miss the chance to acquire this exceptional property that offers both comfort and sustainability in a desirable location. Want to know more?
This stunning residence for sale in Hansbeke offers an exceptional opportunity for those seeking a modern, energy-efficient home in a tranquil yet accessible location. Priced at €478,000, this property stands out not only for its prime location but also for its sustainable design and thoughtful architecture. Situated at Aldegondekenpark 21, this property is part of a carefully planned community that combines comfort, environmental consciousness, and convenience. The house features a carefully designed layout with three bedrooms and one bathroom, providing spacious living areas tailored to meet contemporary needs. The total land area of 291 square meters includes a Southeast-facing garden, perfect for outdoor relaxation and family activities. With three facades, the building benefits from ample natural light, enhancing the bright and welcoming atmosphere of the interior spaces. The property is distinguished by its focus on sustainability and energy efficiency. Achieving an impressive E20 energy label, the home incorporates geothermic heating, solar panels, and sound architectural planning to ensure low energy consumption and reduced running costs. This eco-friendly approach aligns with current trends towards sustainable living, offering homeowners significant long-term savings and a minimal environmental footprint. The residence’s construction quality and modern features make it a perfect choice for families or individuals looking to invest in a home that combines comfort with green technology. Its location in Hansbeke offers the best of both worlds: a peaceful environment with the convenience of nearby amenities. Daily necessities such as shops, schools, and horeca are within walking distance, creating a practical and comfortable living experience for residents. Living in Hansbeke means embracing a lifestyle characterized by tranquility and ease of access. The neighborhood’s green central zone and low-traffic streets provide a safe environment for children to play and families to enjoy outdoor activities. The locality’s peaceful ambiance is complemented by excellent connectivity, making commuting or exploring the broader region straightforward. Whether you are looking to settle in a sustainable home or seeking a peaceful community close to essential services, this property offers an ideal blend of both. For more information or to arrange a viewing, visit ### or contact their sales consultant at ### Don’t miss this unique opportunity to own a modern, eco-friendly home in Hansbeke that perfectly balances comfort, sustainability, and prime location. Want to know more?
Situated in Hansbeke, this exceptional residence represents a unique opportunity for those seeking a modern, energy-efficient home in a tranquil yet accessible location. Priced at €478,000, this property offers a compelling combination of contemporary design and sustainable living. Located at Aldegondekenpark 23, the house is part of a carefully crafted development that emphasizes comfort, ecological responsibility, and community living. Its architectural features include three facades, a thoughtfully designed layout, and a private garden oriented southeast—perfect for enjoying sunny mornings and outdoor relaxation. The property’s total land area measures 292 m², offering ample outdoor space for leisure activities, gardening, or family gatherings. Given its recent construction status and the absence of current tenants, this residence is ready for immediate occupancy by new owners looking to settle into a peaceful environment that combines efficiency with style. The house boasts three well-sized bedrooms and a modern bathroom, making it suitable for families or individuals seeking extra space. The interior emphasizes quality and functionality, with an emphasis on energy savings achieved through sustainable technologies such as geothermal heating and solar panels. The property’s E-peil of E20 underscores its commitment to low energy consumption, ensuring lower utility bills and environmental impact. The house’s design maximizes natural light and airflow, while the exterior features include a charming garden with a southeastern orientation, ideal for outdoor dining or relaxing in the sun. The presence of three exterior walls enhances privacy and allows for versatile landscaping options. Beyond the property itself, Nevele Loveling offers the perfect blend of peaceful living amidst nature with excellent connectivity to local amenities—shops, schools, and horeca establishments are all within walking distance, making daily life convenient and enjoyable. Nestled in a well-planned community area characterized by green zones and low-traffic streets, this residence provides a safe and serene environment for families or anyone seeking quality of life in Flanders. The area’s urban planning ensures tranquility without sacrificing accessibility. With no flood risks, as the property is outside flood-prone zones, buyers can enjoy peace of mind regarding environmental concerns. If you are interested in this modern, eco-friendly home in Hansbeke, further information is available through ### or by contacting their sales consultant at ### Don’t miss the opportunity to invest in a sustainable home designed for comfort and efficiency—reach out today to arrange a viewing or to discuss your future in this beautiful setting. Want to know more?
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Looking for a spacious family home with plenty of potential? Then this charming property in Deinze is well worth a visit. The entrance hall leads to a cosy living room connected to the kitchen. The ground floor also offers several practical rooms that can be adapted to suit your needs, such as a home office, hobby room, storage area, or additional living space. The first floor features three full-sized bedrooms and a bathroom. The second floor offers two more spacious bedrooms, bringing the total to five. This makes the property ideal for large families, remote working, or anyone looking for extra space for a dressing room, hobby room, or guest accommodation. A major asset is the possibility of rear access via the garages, providing extra convenience and easy accessibility—a rare feature for this type of property. With its solid construction, generous living space, and favourable EPC rating of C, this home also provides the perfect foundation for further modernisation and finishing to your own taste. Key features: 5 spacious bedrooms Rear access via the garages Favourable EPC rating: C Generous living area Plenty of renovation and layout possibilities Central location close to shops, schools, and public transport Interested? Contact Immo Beguin today for more information or to arrange a viewing via ### . Want to know more?
FOR SALE in Deinze Are you looking for a move-in-ready home in an excellent location? Then this charming property in Deinze is exactly what you're looking for! Completely renovated in 2015, this home offers all the comfort of modern living. On the ground floor, you'll find a spacious and bright living area with an open-plan kitchen. There is also a guest toilet, a practical utility room with connections for a washing machine and tumble dryer, and a separate office, making it ideal for working from home. The first floor features two full-sized bedrooms and a comfortable bathroom equipped with all the necessary amenities. Outside, you can enjoy a large south-facing garden with a garden shed, providing the perfect place to relax in peace and privacy. A major added benefit is the rear access, allowing easy access to both the garden and the house. The location is another major asset: schools, shops, the train station and the motorway are all just a short distance away. In short, this is the perfect home for anyone looking to enjoy comfortable living in a central location. Guide price: €299,000 Don't miss this opportunity! Contact Ruben by email at ### or visit ### for more information or to arrange a viewing. Want to know more?
Spacious bel-etage with garden in Deinze Close to the center of Deinze you will find this spacious bel-etage house on a plot of 252 m². With a living area of 166 m², this property offers a lot of space and possibilities. The ground floor is currently arranged as extra storage space, but can also serve as a practice or office space. Layout: -Ground floor: entrance hall, storage room, laundry/storage room, garage ground floor: entrance hall with built-in closets, bright living room, kitchen, bathroom (shower, washbasin), separate toilet, 3 bedrooms -Outside: driveway, garden with terrace overlooking greenery Information: EPC label: C | 247 kWh/m2/year Stedenbouwkundige information: Vg - Wg - Gmo - Gvkr - Vv Watertoets: parcel score A | building score A Elektriciteit: in accordance with De area mentioned is the gross area as mentioned in the EPC certificate Interested? Contact Ellen at ### or at ### . Want to know more?
Charmant, lichtrijk en helemaal klaar voor een nieuw verhaal. Deze rustig gelegen halfopen woning combineert karakter met hedendaags wooncomfort en verrassend veel ruimte. Je wordt verwelkomd in de inkomhal met gastentoilet en praktische inbouwkast. De gezellige leefruimte met zit- en eethoek baadt in het licht en loopt naadloos over in de stijlvolle bureauruimte en de sfeervolle orangerie – dé perfecte plek om te ontspannen of van thuis uit te werken. De open, volledig uitgeruste keuken vormt het hart van de woning en sluit aan op de berging en wasplaats. Buiten wacht een onderhoudsvriendelijke, zuidoostgerichte tuin met een gezellig terras waar je volop geniet van de zon. De dubbele garage en oprit met plaats voor twee wagens maken het plaatje compleet. Op de eerste verdieping vind je drie volwaardige slaapkamers en een ruime badkamer met ligbad, douche, lavabo en toilet. Een warme thuis waar charme, licht en functionaliteit moeiteloos samenkomen. Ideaal voor wie rustig wil wonen zonder in te boeten aan comfort. Extra troeven ligging nieuwe keuken van 2023 parket dubbele garage waterverzachter nabij belangrijke invalsweg, winkels, scholen instapklaar Deze woning is te koop ZONDER makelaar via het concept van Smart Houses. Wenst u verdere inlichtingen of een bezoek? Contacteer rechtstreeks de eigenaar via ### Want to know more?
LOCATION You will be living just outside the center of Deinze. Everything is within cycling distance at this location: shops, recreational facilities, restaurants, schools, etc. Major highways such as the E17 and E40 are easily accessible, and public transportation is also nearby. Bus stops are within walking distance, and the train station is a 5-minute bike ride away. PROJECT A mix of stylish apartments and houses with architecture inspired by a rural parsonage style but with a modern touch. Refinement in architecture with diversity in surface areas and types of homes. Each house and apartment has a well-thought-out interior layout and a beautiful outdoor space. D'Hulhaege is a BEN project: nearly energy neutral. The apartments and houses are equipped with an air-water heat pump, underfloor heating, and a ventilation system D. Thanks to the excellent thermal and acoustic insulation, you can enjoy peace and quiet and a pleasant climate inside. This way, you invest in a better environment and in the value retention of your property at the same time. You can choose from 1, 2, or 3-bedroom apartments. The homes combine a logical layout with a pleasant living experience with a garden. Parking spaces and storage rooms are provided in the parking garage. Some homes even have a private garage directly adjacent to the garden. The finishing is done according to specifications where quality immediately catches the eye. For more information: ### Want to know more?
LOCATION You will be living just outside the center of Deinze. Everything is within cycling distance at this location: shops, recreational facilities, restaurants, schools, etc. Major highways such as the E17 and E40 are easily accessible, and public transportation is also nearby. Bus stops are within walking distance, and the train station is a 5-minute bike ride away. PROJECT A mix of stylish apartments and houses with architecture inspired by a rural parsonage style but with a modern touch. Refinement in architecture with diversity in surface areas and types of homes. Each house and apartment has a well-thought-out interior layout and a beautiful outdoor space. D'Hulhaege is a BEN project: nearly energy neutral. The apartments and houses are equipped with an air-water heat pump, underfloor heating, and a ventilation system D. Thanks to the excellent thermal and acoustic insulation, you can enjoy peace and quiet and a pleasant climate inside. This way, you invest in a better environment and in the value retention of your property at the same time. You can choose from 1, 2, or 3-bedroom apartments. The homes combine a logical layout with a pleasant living experience with a garden. Parking spaces and storage rooms are provided in the parking garage. Some homes even have a private garage directly adjacent to the garden. The finishing is done according to specifications where quality immediately catches the eye. For more information: ### Want to know more?
LOCATION You will be living just outside the center of Deinze. Everything is within cycling distance at this location: shops, recreational facilities, restaurants, schools, etc. Major highways such as the E17 and E40 are easily accessible, and public transportation is also nearby. Bus stops are within walking distance, and the train station is a 5-minute bike ride away. PROJECT A mix of stylish apartments and houses with architecture inspired by a rural parsonage style but with a modern touch. Refinement in architecture with diversity in surface areas and types of homes. Each house and apartment has a well-thought-out interior layout and a beautiful outdoor space. D'Hulhaege is a BEN project: nearly energy neutral. The apartments and houses are equipped with an air-water heat pump, underfloor heating, and a ventilation system D. Thanks to the excellent thermal and acoustic insulation, you can enjoy peace and quiet and a pleasant climate inside. This way, you invest in a better environment and in the value retention of your property at the same time. You can choose from 1, 2, or 3-bedroom apartments. The homes combine a logical layout with a pleasant living experience with a garden. Parking spaces and storage rooms are provided in the parking garage. Some homes even have a private garage directly adjacent to the garden. The finishing is done according to specifications where quality immediately catches the eye. For more information: ### Want to know more?
LOCATION You will be living just outside the center of Deinze. Everything is within cycling distance at this location: shops, recreational facilities, restaurants, schools, etc. Major highways such as the E17 and E40 are easily accessible, and public transportation is also nearby. Bus stops are within walking distance, and the train station is a 5-minute bike ride away. PROJECT A mix of stylish apartments and houses with architecture inspired by a rural parsonage style but with a modern touch. Refinement in architecture with diversity in surface areas and types of homes. Each house and apartment has a well-thought-out interior layout and a beautiful outdoor space. D'Hulhaege is a BEN project: nearly energy neutral. The apartments and houses are equipped with an air-water heat pump, underfloor heating, and a ventilation system D. Thanks to the excellent thermal and acoustic insulation, you can enjoy peace and quiet and a pleasant climate inside. This way, you invest in a better environment and in the value retention of your property at the same time. You can choose from 1, 2, or 3-bedroom apartments. The homes combine a logical layout with a pleasant living experience with a garden. Parking spaces and storage rooms are provided in the parking garage. Some homes even have a private garage directly adjacent to the garden. The finishing is done according to specifications where quality immediately catches the eye. For more information: ### Want to know more?
Are you looking for a beautiful and luxuriously finished villa in Sint-Martens-Leerne, near the Lys? Then we have exactly what you are looking for! The property is located on the Leernsesteenweg in Sint-Martens-Leerne, a pleasant and green area with easy access to Ghent and Deinze. In the vicinity you will find stores, schools, public transport and all necessary amenities. Moreover, you will enjoy excellent accessibility here thanks to the proximity of major approach roads. Thanks to this favorable location, the property combines the comfort of quiet living in a rural environment with easy access to city life - ideal for those who want central and comfortable living. Layout: 1stV: Upon entering, you enter the entrance hall, equipped with custom cabinets. Through the right door you enter a first living space that can perfectly serve as an office space or relaxation area. Also located is the beautifully finished kitchen with a stylish kitchen island. From the kitchen you reach the spacious and bright living space with a view of the garden. Through the kitchen you also enter a hallway where you will find the first bathroom, as well as an additional room currently set up as a bedroom. In addition, the kitchen gives access to a second hallway leading to the garage. 2ndV: Through the staircase in the entrance hall you reach the night hall. Here you will find the first bedroom with dressing room. In addition, there are three more spacious bedrooms and a second bathroom. Furthermore, the house also features a fully finished basement, which provides additional storage space and possibilities. Interested? Feel free to contact us for more information or to schedule a visit. Want to know more?
Discover this exceptional opportunity to acquire a modern residence in the charming town of Deinze, located at Brunshaag 50. Priced at €399,500, this brand-new property promises contemporary living in a well-designed environment tailored to comfort and energy efficiency. Built with high-quality, strongly isolating materials, this home is designed to minimize energy consumption while maximizing comfort. Set to be completed in 2026, the residence offers a spacious 174 square meters of living space, providing ample room for families or those seeking a generous and functional home. The property features four bedrooms, making it an ideal choice for families or individuals wanting versatile living arrangements. The open-plan layout includes a bright and airy living room, a fully equipped kitchen, and a complete bathroom. The design emphasizes natural light and practicality, with large windows and a thoughtful floor plan. Outside, the property benefits from a private, enclosed garden oriented westward, perfect for outdoor relaxation and entertaining. The outdoor space is complemented by a cozy terrace and a garage for convenient parking. Additional energy-efficient features include a geothermal heat pump, underfloor heating, solar panels, and a heat recovery ventilation system, ensuring low energy costs and sustainable living. Situated in Deinze, this residence combines the tranquility of suburban life with the convenience of nearby amenities. The location provides easy access to local facilities, parks, and essential services, making it an attractive choice for families and professionals alike. The property’s construction adheres to strict standards for insulation and energy performance, with a primary energy consumption of only 99 kWh/m² per year. The home’s double-glazed windows further enhance its energy efficiency and soundproofing. With a total plot surface of 299 square meters and water connection available, it offers both comfort and practicality. This excellent investment opportunity is ready for you to personalize with your preferred kitchen, bathroom finishes, and outdoor landscaping. Contact us today to arrange a viewing or receive additional information about this unique property in Deinze. Want to know more?
Project Henriette Chaumatstraat Astene in Deinze offers a selection of energy-efficient new-build homes featuring quality construction and modern design. The development includes eight units with living spaces ranging from 235 to 276 square meters, accommodating three to five bedrooms. Each home is designed to provide ample natural light, with spacious living areas that include an open, fully equipped kitchen, a storage room, and a laundry area. Additionally, the properties come with a garage or the option for a carport, as well as garden space that can be landscaped according to the buyer's preferences. Located at Henriette Chaumatstraat 50 in the well-connected area of Astene, these residences benefit from proximity to major roads, schools, and public transportation, making them convenient for families and commuters alike. The layout includes a ground floor with an entrance hall, staircase, and toilet, while the upper floor houses three bedrooms and a bathroom, with options to finish a large attic space for additional rooms if desired. The homes prioritize energy efficiency, featuring double-glazed windows and solar panels to reduce energy costs. The quality finishes and turnkey condition make these properties ready for immediate occupancy. Pricing ranges from €200,000 to €524,821, depending on the unit size and specifications. For more information or to arrange a visit, interested buyers can contact Emiel via ### . Want to know more?
Location and surroundings This BegijnHof residential project is located in Astene, a picturesque village. This newly built residential area is located in a cul-de-sac, a stone's throw from public transport and the center of Deinze. There is also an easy connection to important traffic axes such as the N43 and E17 towards Ghent. PROJECT and FINISHING The new phase includes twelve modern homes, with a choice between closed and semi-open constructions. The houses of Begijnhof have a garage or carport and there is also a separate bicycle shed. These new homes all feature a comfortable living space with an open kitchen and adjoining storage room. The large windows provide plenty of natural light and offer a view of the beautiful garden. All Beguinage residential units have three bedrooms and a large bathroom with double sink, walk-in shower and bathtub. Beguinage's turnkey homes enjoy high-quality finishes and low energy levels. For example, a heat pump combined with underfloor heating, solar panels and triple glazing were chosen. INDICATION delivery: Lot 140-144 end of quarter 1, 2025 Lot 145-151 beginning quarter 4, 2025 lot 176 - 177 - 178 delivery linked to the time of sale. NEW PHASE Lot 179 - 194 completion linked to time of sale. Contact us for more information. Photos are of the model home in this subdivision. Want to know more?