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For sale: charming semi-detached house in Appels, located on Bevrijdingslaan, close to public transport and main roads. This move-in ready home, blends character with a high-quality finish. The spacious driveway offers room for multiple cars, perfect for families or those who entertain often. Situated in the residential core, it provides easy access to amenities, schools, and shops, while the EPC rating B ensures energy efficiency. Main rooms: • Bright living room (33 m²) • Modern kitchen (13 m²) with induction hob, dishwasher, oven, fridge, freezer, and breakfast nook • Two bedrooms (13 m² and 19 m²) • Bathroom (7 m²) with walk-in shower, toilet, and vanity unit • Garden (20 m²) for outdoor enjoyment • Cellar (12 m²) for extra storage Highlights: • Spacious driveway for multiple cars • Move-in ready with high-quality finish • Close to amenities and main roads Contact your ERA agent today to arrange a viewing. YOUR DREAM HOUSE. FOUND! Want to know more?

For sale: terraced house on Meirgatstraat, Baasrode, located in a quiet residential area yet close to schools, public transport and main roads. This property is currently rented, making it an ideal investment opportunity. Inside, you will find spacious rooms and a cosy living area, perfect for those seeking comfort and practicality. The location offers peace while being within easy reach of all amenities, appealing to both investors and families. Main rooms: • Living room (29 m²) with plenty of natural light • Kitchen (18 m²) with double sink, dishwasher, induction hob, oven, fridge and built-in cupboards • 3 bedrooms (18 m², 12 m², 10 m²) • Bathroom (4 m²) with shower, toilet and washbasin in cabinet • Garage (16 m²) with connections for washing machine and dryer • Cellar (16 m²) • Courtyard Highlights: • Currently rented – ideal investment • Spacious rooms and cosy living area • Quiet location yet close to all amenities Contact your ERA agent today to arrange a viewing. YOUR DREAM HOUSE. FOUND! Want to know more?

LOCATION Located in one of the busiest shopping streets in Dendermonde, you will find this ready-to-move-in commercial property with living quarters, ideal for those who want to combine living and working or are looking for a smart investment. De Oude Vest is the commercial artery of the city: a prime location with maximum visibility and footfall. What's more, you will enjoy an excellent mobiscore of 9.2/10! Shops, schools, supermarkets, restaurants and public transport are all within walking distance. For those who like to relax in green surroundings, the Bastion VIII nature reserve and the Beguinage are nearby. Here you live in the middle of the city, but with peace and nature within easy reach. LAYOUT On the ground floor, there is a bright commercial space of approx. 50 m², equipped with a technical room and separate toilet. Thanks to its convenient location, this is the ideal space for a liberal profession, boutique, office or practice. The extra space at the rear gives you direct access to a cosy 30 m² city garden – perfect for relaxing or receiving customers in the open air. The first floor consists of a spacious and airy living room and a fully equipped kitchen. On the second floor, you will find two bedrooms and a modern bathroom with a walk-in shower. ADVANTAGES - Completely renovated and ready to move in - Heat pump and air conditioning for optimal comfort and energy-efficient living - Suitable as a family home, investment property or combination of commercial and residential use - Maximum visibility for your business thanks to its central location Are you looking for a versatile property in a prime commercial location in Dendermonde? Don't miss this unique opportunity. Contact Bram on ### and schedule your visit today. Want to know more?

ious terraced house in the centre of Dendermonde, within walking distance of the train station, bus stop and local amenities. This characterful property offers generous space and potential, with five bedrooms and large living areas. Its central location near public transport and schools makes it ideal for families. The large garage ensures you never have to worry about parking. Main rooms: • Large living room (68 m²) with fireplace and plenty of natural light • Spacious kitchen (22 m²) with gas hob, oven, fridge and extractor • Five bedrooms (8 m², 9 m², 13 m², 24 m², 37 m²) • Bathroom (7 m²) with bathtub, toilet and sink • Two storage rooms (8 m² and 11 m²) with washer and dryer connections • Garage (33 m²) • Garden (160 m²) perfect for relaxation Key features: • Central location near station, bus stop and amenities • Large home with many bedrooms and spacious layout • Garage included, no parking stress Contact your ERA agent today to arrange a viewing. YOUR DREAM HOUSE. FOUND! Want to know more?

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Hectaar is building energy-efficient and practically designed new-build homes as part of a small-scale development in a highly central location in Dendermonde (Grembergen).The property is centrally situated between Dendermonde and Lokeren, and you’ll also find shops, schools and public transport in the immediate vicinity. All this, combined with a rural setting, makes the location ideal for families.With each property, the buyer has the opportunity to have a full say in the layout and finish of the home. In consultation with our trusted partner suppliers, you choose the materials and finishes yourself according to your taste and budget – making this property truly your home.Layout Lot 04:Ground floor: Entrance hall with guest toilet, spacious living area with open-plan kitchen and integrated garageFirst floor: Landing with separate toilet, 3 very spacious bedrooms, bathroom fitted with bath, walk-in shower and double washbasin unitAttic: Accessible via the loft hatch – ideal as extra storage spaceKey features of this property: Energy-efficient living Air-to-water heat pump, solar panels and underfloor heating Spacious plots 7,500-litre rainwater tank connected to toilets/washing machine/outdoor tap If you would like more information, please contact us today for further details or to arrange an appointment at our office in Asse. Plans can be found at ### (Photos are reference images from previous projects) Want to know more?

Discover a versatile and spacious property in Sint-Pauwels that seamlessly combines residential comfort with professional functionality, offering an exceptional opportunity for entrepreneurs and families alike. Priced at €1,250,000, this unique estate presents a rare blend of living space, office facilities, and industrial storage, all situated on a generous 4,199 m² plot of land. Built in 1966, the property has been maintained to provide modern amenities while retaining its robust structure, making it an ideal investment for those seeking a comprehensive live-work solution in a strategic location. The residence itself boasts 260 m² of living space, featuring seven bedrooms, including one on the ground floor, and a welcoming living area with elegant parquet flooring, underfloor heating, and the potential for a fireplace. The stylish kitchen is equipped with a large cooking island, a granite countertop, and ample storage, complemented by a practical utility room. The house also includes a contemporary sauna with atmospheric lighting, several bathrooms with modern fixtures such as a corner bathtub and walk-in shower, as well as multiple toilets and a laundry room with built-in cabinets. An inner courtyard provides optimal privacy, and recent upgrades include a new central heating system and roller shutters, ensuring comfort and efficiency. Beyond the private residence, the property features extensive commercial facilities tailored for entrepreneurial pursuits. The 325 m² office area, accessible via its own entrance, offers reception space, meeting rooms, workstations on both ground floor and upper level, a well-equipped kitchenette, and sanitary facilities. Abundant natural light floods the interior through numerous windows and skylights, creating an inviting work environment. Adjacent to the offices are two garages with additional storage space upstairs, perfect for storing equipment or vehicles. The industrial component includes a substantial hangar of 1,500 m² with three large bays, mezzanines, high doors (up to 4.80 meters), a workshop area with a car lift, and even a wine cellar. Separate power supplies for the residence and hangar ensure smooth operations. Outside, the estate offers extensive parking and storage options across the 4,199 m² grounds, featuring a garden and terrace for outdoor leisure. Situated just 10 to 15 minutes from major highways E17 and E34, this property benefits from excellent accessibility and visibility within an industrial zone designated for artisanal businesses and small-to-medium-sized enterprises. The land falls under a special development plan (BPA), providing flexibility for future modifications or expansions. With an annual rentable income of €2,600 from current lease agreements for part of the hangar, this estate offers both immediate income potential and long-term growth prospects. Whether you are looking to establish a new business premise or find a comfortable combined living and working environment, this property presents a rare and compelling opportunity. For more information or to arrange a viewing, contact Eberhard Vastgoed at ### and seize this exceptional chance to invest in Sint-Pauwels. Want to know more?

Discover this exceptional residence for sale in De Klinge, offering a perfect combination of space, comfort, and practicality for families or those seeking a versatile home. Priced at €329,000, this property presents a contemporary and move-in-ready solution with a total living area of approximately 200 m², situated on a generous 646 m² plot. The house boasts four spacious bedrooms, three modern bathrooms, and an extensive living space that seamlessly connects the different areas, creating a warm and welcoming atmosphere. The property has been recently upgraded, with new kitchens and bathrooms enhancing its appeal, and features such as double glazing, roller shutters, and full electrical certification ensuring safety and energy efficiency. An integrated garage of 27 m² provides convenient parking or storage options, complemented by additional outdoor parking spaces for up to four vehicles. The outdoor spaces are equally impressive, with a large terrace of 80 m² perfect for entertaining or relaxing outdoors, a sizable garden of 400 m² ideal for children or gardening enthusiasts, and a water well that adds to the property's sustainability features. Located in the heart of De Klinge, this residence benefits from a strategic position close to the town center and renowned natural areas such as the Clingse bossen and Stropersbos, offering extensive opportunities for outdoor activities like cycling and hiking. The neighborhood provides easy access to essential amenities including supermarkets, restaurants, a bakery, dental clinics, and other local services, all within walking distance. The transport connections are excellent, with quick routes to Sint-Niklaas, the Waaslandhaven industrial area, and major roads such as the E34 connecting to Antwerp and Knokke. This makes daily commuting or leisure travel straightforward and hassle-free. The property is situated in a well-established residential area within a designated woongebied (residential zone), free from flooding risks or overstromingsgevoeligheid, providing peace of mind for future owners. If you are interested in this remarkable property or wish to arrange a viewing, please contact us via SMS at ### to reserve your visit. This residence offers an excellent opportunity to acquire a modern, spacious family home in a highly desirable location with excellent amenities and outdoor spaces. Whether you desire a property ready for immediate occupation or one with potential for customization, this De Klinge house perfectly aligns with those seeking quality living in a peaceful yet accessible environment. Don’t miss the chance to make this wonderful home yours—schedule your visit today and experience firsthand all that this superb property has to offer. Want to know more?

Discover this beautiful 2-fronted house located between Dendermonde and Buggenhout. This renovated house (built in 1936) is equipped with double glazing and shutters on the front facade. On the ground floor you will find a spacious dining room with adjacent fully equipped kitchen. Then you enter the very bright living room with large windows opening onto the covered terrace and the large garden. Ideal for children and to quietly enjoy the sunny days. Upstairs there are 3 bedrooms and 2 bathrooms (bath and shower) with toilet. The house also has a large attic which can be used as storage space. There is also space for your car in the garage. Very favorable EPC= 294/C - electricity system is compliant - oil heating Want to know more?

For sale: beautiful ready-to-move semi-detached family home in country style in Appels (Dendermonde), in a quiet location yet close to all amenities and the city centre. This property blends charm and comfort with energy-efficient heating, a sun-oriented garden perfect for relaxation, and a location that is both peaceful and practical. Schools, public transport, and main roads are within walking distance. Main rooms: • Spacious living room (37 m²) with plenty of natural light • Fully equipped kitchen (16 m²) with modern appliances • 4 bedrooms, including a master bedroom (15 m²) • Bathroom (13 m²) with full comfort • Laundry room (12 m²) with washer and dryer connections • Garage (23 m²) • Cellar (28 m²) with technical room • Attic (52 m²) accessible via hatch • Entrance hall (12 m²) and night hall (18 m²) • Garden (167 m²) ideal for relaxation Highlights: • Beautiful ready-to-move family home in country style, in exceptional condition, with energy-efficient heating • Sun-oriented garden for complete relaxation • Quiet location just minutes from all amenities and Dendermonde centre Contact your ERA agent today to arrange a viewing. YOUR DREAM HOUSE. FOUND! Want to know more?

For sale: charming house in the heart of Dendermonde, located on Dokter De Witteplein, within walking distance of the train station, schools, and park. This home offers three full-sized bedrooms, perfect for a family. Situated in a cosy, child-friendly neighbourhood, you’ll enjoy peace and quiet while still being close to all amenities. There is ample parking on the square in front, and a rear access road allows you to take out waste or store bikes without passing through the house. Main rooms: • Spacious living room (27 m²) with plenty of natural light • Dining room (12 m²) connected to the kitchen • Kitchen (5 m²) with gas stove • Three bedrooms (6 m², 10 m², and 13 m²) • Bathroom (3 m²) with bathtub, toilet, and sink • Two storage rooms (2 m² and 13 m²) • 70 m² garden, ideal for relaxation or children’s play Highlights: • Three full-sized bedrooms • Quiet, child-friendly location near station and amenities • Ample parking and convenient rear access Contact your ERA agent today to arrange a viewing. YOUR DREAM HOUSE. FOUND! Want to know more?

Discover this outstanding residence for sale in Sint-Gillis-Waas, offering a unique combination of space, comfort, and practical features. Priced at €590,000, this beautifully maintained property provides an excellent opportunity for those seeking a spacious family home or a versatile living space. Located at Reepstraat 153, this residence benefits from its strategic position between the centre of Sint-Gillis-Waas and De Klinge, providing easy access to major routes leading to Ghent and Antwerp. The accessibility and connectivity make it an ideal choice for commuters or anyone wanting to enjoy the tranquility of rural life without sacrificing convenience. This home boasts a generous living surface of approximately 268 m², with four well-appointed bedrooms that can be adapted to suit your needs. The ground floor features a welcoming entrance hall, a separate toilet, two bedrooms, and a fully tiled bathroom equipped with an in-loop shower, a washbasin unit, and a toilet. The expansive living room is complemented by an open-plan kitchen fitted with modern appliances including a microwave oven, traditional oven, double sink, gas stove, and extractor hood — perfect for culinary enthusiasts. Adjacent to this space is a cozy veranda overlooking the meticulously landscaped garden, providing a peaceful retreat for relaxation or entertaining guests. Additionally, the property includes a storage room with connection points for a washing machine and dryer, as well as a spacious garage that grants direct access to the attic. The upper level of the residence presents an impressive 127 m² of space that lends itself easily to transformation into three additional bedrooms or other versatile rooms tailored to your lifestyle. Outside, the property truly shines with a large, beautifully landscaped garden featuring a well-maintained terrace — an idyllic outdoor space for gatherings or quiet reflection. With four facades and additional features like a low energy EPC rating of 280 kWh/m² per year, this residence combines practicality with energy efficiency. Built in 1989 on a substantial land plot of 2,005 m², the property offers ample outdoor space and privacy. The house is currently not rented and will be available upon signing the deed. Whether you are looking for a family home or an adaptable property with plenty of potential, this residence in Sint-Gillis-Waas deserves your attention. Contact us today to arrange a viewing and explore all the possibilities this exceptional property has to offer. Want to know more?

Ces 16 maisons neuves modernes créent un cadre de vie agréable dans lequel une partie du projet est réservée à un parc avec des arbres et un banc et une aire de jeux sécuritaire pour les plus petits. Les maisons disposent toutes d'un séjour lumineux avec une cuisine ouverte et un débarras attenant ; certaines habitations disposent également d'un espace de travail ou de détente intégré. Au dernier étage, vous pouvez choisir entre 3 - 4 ou 5 chambres, un WC de nuit séparé, une salle de bain avec baignoire et douche et un débarras ; certaines maisons ont également un espace grenier. Une attention particulière a été accordée à l'écologie et à la durabilité : chaque maison a un niveau E de maximum E20 et a été développée avec les dernières techniques d'isolation et offre la possibilité d'opter pour une pompe à chaleur. Voulez-vous plus d'informations? Veuillez nous contacter via notre numéro général ### ou via ### Want to know more?

Discover this charming residence for sale in Sint-Gillis-Waas, offering a wonderful opportunity for renovation and personalization. Priced at €199,000, this property is perfectly situated in a central location, close to the vibrant centers of Sint-Pauwels and Kemzeke. The address is Zandstraat 116, with a total surface area of approximately 128 square meters of living space, sitting on a generous plot of 257 square meters. This home features a traditional construction dating back to 1936, providing a solid foundation for future updates. The property is currently in a state suitable for renovation, making it an ideal project for buyers seeking to create a customized family home or investment property. The residence boasts three bedrooms, with two spacious rooms measuring 12 and 18 square meters respectively, and a large versatile space of 26 square meters on the upper level accessible by a pull-up ladder — perfect for additional bedrooms, hobbies, or an office. The layout includes an inviting entrance hall, a bright living room connected to a kitchen with a double sink and a skylight, and a cellar for extra storage. The bathroom requires updating but currently features a shower in a bath and a washbasin, complemented by a separate toilet. Outside, the south-facing garden and sunny terrace provide private outdoor spaces, while the garage with manual gate is accessed via the back road. The garden’s orientation and surrounding greenery offer peaceful views and a sense of tranquility, enriched by the privacy it affords. This property benefits from convenient amenities and excellent transport links. It is located near various shops, including supermarkets and butchers, with public transportation within walking distance, facilitating easy access to Waaslandhaven via the E34 and to Sint-Niklaas and E17 highways. Heating is provided by gas stoves, and the windows are mainly single-glazed with wooden frames and roller shutters. The property holds an EPC rating of E, indicating straightforward renovation potential. The home is asbestos-safe, adding peace of mind for prospective buyers. Whether you are looking to renovate extensively or modernize over time, this residence offers a fantastic opportunity to craft a personalized home in a quiet yet well-connected area. Contact us now to arrange your visit and explore the potential this property holds for your future. Want to know more?

Hectaar is building energy-efficient and practically designed new-build homes as part of a small-scale development in a highly central location in Dendermonde (Grembergen).The property is centrally situated between Dendermonde and Lokeren, and you’ll also find shops, schools and public transport in the immediate vicinity. All this, combined with a rural setting, makes the location ideal for families.With each property, the buyer has the opportunity to have a full say in the layout and finish of the home. In consultation with our trusted partner suppliers, you choose the materials and finishes yourself according to your taste and budget – making this property truly your home.Layout Lot 05:Ground floor: Entrance hall with guest toilet, spacious living area with open-plan kitchen and integrated garageFirst floor: Landing with separate toilet, 3 very spacious bedrooms, bathroom fitted with bath, walk-in shower and double washbasin unitAttic: Accessible via the loft hatch – ideal as extra storage spaceKey features of this property: Energy-efficient living Air-to-water heat pump, solar panels and underfloor heating Spacious plots 7,500-litre rainwater tank connected to toilets/washing machine/outdoor tap If you would like more information, please contact us today for further details or to arrange an appointment at our office in Asse. Plans can be found at ### (Photos are reference images from previous projects) Want to know more?

Discover this spacious single-family home nestled in the tranquil neighborhood of Heidepark, Dendermonde. Offered at €325,000, this well-maintained residence presents an excellent opportunity for families or those seeking ample space and practical features. Built in 1969, this property boasts a generous living area of approximately 190 m² within a total plot of 446 m², including a sizable south-facing garden of 260 m² that provides a perfect outdoor retreat. Its strategic location offers the convenience of nearby schools and public transportation, making daily commutes and family life comfortable and accessible. This residence is designed with practicality and comfort in mind. It features three bedrooms, each providing ample space for rest, relaxation, or hobbies. The living room, measuring around 35 m², is bathed in natural light, creating a warm and inviting atmosphere ideal for family gatherings or entertaining guests. The kitchen, approximately 9 m², is equipped with modern appliances such as an induction cooktop, dishwasher, and oven, making meal preparation straightforward. The bathroom, spanning 6 m², includes a walk-in shower and a washbasin in a functional furniture setup. Storage is well thought out with a dedicated utility room measuring 5 m², a large attic of 24 m² for extra belongings, and two garages totaling 56 m² with automatic doors, providing ample parking and storage solutions. Situated in a quiet, residential area of Dendermonde, this property offers numerous outdoor amenities to enhance your lifestyle. The north-facing front of the house provides privacy while the south-facing garden invites sunshine and outdoor enjoyment. The garden's size makes it suitable for gardening, relaxation, or outdoor activities. The location benefits from proximity to essential amenities, schools, and public transport options, ensuring ease of access to the town's facilities and beyond. With an energy performance certificate (EPC) score of A and a primary energy consumption of 333 kWh/m² per year, this home combines comfort with energy efficiency. Contact your ERA real estate agent today to schedule a viewing and explore the potential of this charming residence in Dendermonde — your new home awaits! Want to know more?

Discover this spacious semi-detached residence located in the peaceful town of De Klinge, offering an ideal combination of comfort, practicality, and tranquility. Priced at €299,000, this well-constructed home sits on a generous 420m² plot, providing an attractive garden space and a garage for convenient parking and storage. The property, built in 1962, boasts a habitable surface of approximately 207m², featuring three bedrooms and a functional layout that caters to various family needs. Its sturdy construction, combined with modern amenities such as double-glazed PVC windows and concrete floors, ensures durability and comfort. The house has a single bathroom and a separate toilet, with the potential for further renovation to optimize energy efficiency and modern standards, especially if the gas boiler is replaced by a condensing gas model to improve the EPC rating from F to D. The ground floor welcomes you with a spacious entrance hall leading into a charming and sizable living room that offers plenty of natural light and a warm ambiance. Adjacent to the living area is a practical kitchen connected to a generous veranda, perfect for outdoor dining or relaxing during pleasant weather. The garage, equipped with a sink, can serve as extra workspace or storage area, enhancing the property's versatility. The first floor accommodates two full-sized bedrooms measuring 21m² and 15m², along with a bathroom fitted with a bathtub, shower, and basin. The second floor features a large 30m² room accessible via a fixed staircase, which can be used as a master bedroom, hobby room, or office—offering ample options for personalization. The exterior includes a well-maintained garden of 294m² and a terrace, ideal for outdoor leisure and entertaining. Located just 20 minutes from Antwerp via the E34 motorway and only 100 meters from the picturesque Klingse forests, this residence benefits from a central yet tranquil setting. Surrounded by residential areas within a designated living zone, it offers easy access to local amenities and nature while maintaining privacy and peace. The property is not situated in an overflooded zone and does not have any specific preemptive rights attached to it, making it an attractive option for families or buyers seeking a stable investment in a serene environment. With its solid structure and potential for customization, this home invites you to create your ideal living space in one of Belgium's charming communities. For further details or to schedule your visit, contact us today and take the first step toward making this lovely residence yours. Want to know more?

Deze renovatiewoning kent een unieke ligging in het centrum van Dendermonde. Woning biedt heel wat potentieel en heeft een stevige structuur. Huidige indeling op het gelijkvloers: inkomhal, ruime living, grote keuken en apart toilet. 1ste verdieping: ruime slaapkamer en badkamer. zolderverdieping: 2 ruime kamers. De garage die bereikbaar is via de papiermolenstraat, is zeker een grote extra troef te midden van de stad. Kom je deze woning graag zelf ontdekken? Contacteer Tom op ### of mail naar ### ! Want to know more?

Discover this charming residence located in the desirable area of Sint-Gillis-Waas, offering a perfect blend of comfort, practicality, and scenic views. Priced at €339,000, this well-maintained home presents an excellent opportunity for those seeking a spacious property with modern upgrades and ample outdoor space. Built in 1975, this house boasts a total living area of approximately 106 square meters, featuring three bedrooms, two bathrooms, and a range of practical amenities designed to meet contemporary lifestyle needs. The property’s layout includes a welcoming entrance hall, a guest toilet with hand basin, and a generous, light-filled living room with a cozy wood stove, creating a warm and inviting atmosphere. Adjacent to the living room is a functional kitchen equipped with modern appliances such as an electric cooktop with extractor hood, refrigerator, oven, and sink. This space seamlessly connects to a sun-drenched terrace—ideal for outdoor dining and relaxing while enjoying views over the expansive 900-square-meter garden. The garden faces southeast, ensuring plenty of sunshine throughout the day, making it a delightful outdoor retreat. The first floor features a spacious landing that provides access to three bedrooms measuring 8, 13, and 14 square meters, respectively. The bathroom is in need of refreshment but already includes a combined shower and bathtub, a second toilet, and a washbasin. The property benefits from recent upgrades, including a new roof installed in 2015, full insulation of the exterior walls, double glazed windows with PVC frames from 2012, and electric roller shutters on the ground floor. Heating is supplied via a central oil-fired system, with a compliant oil tank, ensuring reliable warmth during colder months. For parking convenience, the property includes a driveway that can accommodate at least three vehicles and an independent garage for additional storage or vehicle protection. The well-designed outdoor space includes a private terrace and garden area in the backyard, providing a peaceful environment for outdoor activities or gardening. Situated on a prime location with picturesque views over open fields, the residence offers excellent connectivity to nearby towns such as Sint-Niklaas and major roads. The area is characterized by its tranquility and scenic beauty while remaining easily accessible to urban centers and essential services. This property is ideal for families or professionals seeking a peaceful countryside lifestyle without sacrificing convenience. With its combination of modern updates, spacious layout, and attractive outdoor areas, this home is ready to welcome new owners who value comfort and quality living. To learn more or schedule a viewing of this exceptional property in Sint-Gillis-Waas, contact us today—we would be delighted to assist you in making this house your new home. Want to know more?