House for sale with 2 facades - Antwerp (Province) (page 29)

Situated in the vibrant neighborhood of Deurne, this property on Stalinsstraat 86 offers a unique investment opportunity. Priced at €305,000, this dual-unit property, consisting of two workers' houses, presents significant renovation or redevelopment potential. With an immediate availability, the property is set on a spacious 350 m² plot, featuring a charming front garden and a favorable south-facing orientation that provides ample natural light throughout the day. Built in 1850, the structure currently requires considerable refurbishment or complete redevelopment, making it an ideal project for those looking to custom design their dream home. The property's location on a quiet street near the Rivierenhof park adds to its appeal, offering residents a peaceful environment while still being part of the urban landscape. Its residential zoning underscores its prime suitability for both family living and potential real-estate investment. Given the property's current state, it's an excellent canvas for creative transformation, whether you're considering restoring its historical charm or constructing a modern residence. With no pre-emption rights or protected status affecting the plot, new owners have the flexibility to bring their vision to life without bureaucratic obstacles. The energy performance certificate indicates a specific primary energy consumption of 782 kWh/m²/year, emphasizing the need for modern energy-efficient renovations. This property represents a rare opportunity for those eager to embark on a rewarding development project in one of Deurne's sought-after locales. Want to know more?

This unique property for sale in Sint-Katelijne-Waver, listed at 369,000 €, offers a blend of residential comfort and commercial potential. Located at IJzerenveld 230, it boasts an advantageous position with excellent connections to major routes like the R6 and E19, as well as proximity to the cycling highway, enhancing accessibility to Antwerp, Mechelen, and Brussels. The property features a commercial space with a prominent corner location, large windows for visibility, a spacious dining area with a counter, and separate restrooms, making it ideal for various business ventures. At the moment, this space is leased out as a pizzeria. Behind the commercial area, you'll find a workshop complete with equipment and storage options, along with a dedicated freezer room and more storage space. An integrated garage is also part of the premises. The property includes a duplex apartment with its own entrance on Oudestraat 117. On the ground floor of this apartment, there is room for bicycles, a cloakroom, and additional storage. The first floor hosts a sizeable living room adjacent to a fully equipped kitchen, a bathroom with a bath, shower, dual sinks, and toilet, along with an extra toilet and laundry hookup space. The second floor offers three spacious bedrooms and a seating area nestled between them. The property dates back to 1934 and spans a total living area of 164 m² with double-glazed windows. Note that the energy performance certificate indicates EPC Label F with a P-score of B; city planning details are currently pending. Despite its historical build, the residence's dual-purpose design makes it an attractive proposition for those looking to combine living with business possibilities. For further information, please visit ### . Want to know more?

Nestled in the serene street of Kopberg in Balen-Hulsen, this sustainably designed residence offers tranquility with the convenience of nearby amenities. With seamless access to surrounding municipalities, the property provides an ideal blend of peace and accessibility. The spacious home welcomes you through an entrance hall featuring a cloakroom and a separate guest toilet. The well-lit living and dining area smoothly transitions into a fully equipped open kitchen, offering modern living at its finest. From this open space, you can access the terrace that benefits from a favorable south-west orientation, perfect for enjoying outdoor moments. Upstairs, you'll find three generous bedrooms and a luxurious bathroom, along with an independent toilet and a separate laundry room in the night hall. A fixed staircase leads to the expansive attic, presenting numerous possibilities for customization. This property sits on a south-west oriented plot of 498m², complete with a delightful garden and an adjacent carport, accommodating two vehicles. The inclusion of solar panels and shutters on the upper floor ensures energy efficiency and comfort throughout the year. This residence boasts a living area of 217 m² and features underfloor heating and triple glazing, contributing to an impressive energy performance score (E-peil of 20 and K-peil of 0). The property is positioned in a residential zone, unencumbered by any pre-emption rights or protective regulations. For more information or to schedule a viewing, please contact us at ### or via phone at ### Want to know more?

Situated on Kopberg Street in Balen-Hulsen, this sustainable residence offers a peaceful setting with numerous amenities close by. The property enjoys excellent connectivity to surrounding communities, making it an ideal location for families and professionals alike. The home is newly built in 2025, ensuring modern standards and energy efficiency, including solar panels and triple-glazed windows. This spacious home welcomes you with an entrance hall featuring a cloakroom space and a separate guest toilet. The bright living and dining area seamlessly connect to a fully equipped open kitchen, creating a perfect space for family gatherings or entertaining guests. From the open-plan area, you can access the terrace, which benefits from southwest orientation, providing a delightful outdoor space. The first floor boasts three full-sized bedrooms and a luxurious bathroom, complemented by an additional separate toilet and a dedicated laundry room in the hallway. A fixed staircase leads to the attic, offering ample possibilities for future use. The property sits on a 461m² plot with a southwest-facing garden, allowing for ample sunlight throughout the day, and includes a carport next to the house. Additional features include rolling shutters on the upper floor and underfloor heating for added comfort. With a living area of 217 m² and two outdoor parking spaces, this home combines functionality and style in a highly desirable location. For more information or to schedule a viewing, please contact us via ### or call ### Want to know more?

Located at Kruisbaanvelden 60 in Merksem, this characterful residence offers a blend of tranquility and central convenience. Priced at €315,000, the property stands in a desirable neighborhood, easily connected to nearby schools, shops, eateries, and public transport routes. With a spacious total land area of 181 m², the property features a garden complete with a terrace and garden shed, making it ideal for outdoor enthusiasts or families looking for more space. Built in 1961, this home presents a promising renovation opportunity for buyers seeking a project. The living space spans 168 m² and includes five bedrooms, offering ample accommodation for larger families or the potential for a home office setup. The interior includes a cozy living and dining area filled with natural light, a partially equipped kitchen that opens to a veranda leading to the garden, and a bathroom on the first floor with essential amenities. Additional practical features include a cellar accessible from the entrance hall, a loft accessed via the fourth bedroom, and oil-based heating. Although it requires some renovation work, this property has a P-score and G-score of A, indicating its strong potential post-renovation. Ready for ownership upon deed signing, this residence presents an excellent opportunity to create a personalized family home in a top location. Want to know more?

This charming residence located at Hermelijnstraat 17 in Wilrijk offers an inviting atmosphere with its potential for renovation. Priced at €297,000, the property features two bedrooms and a delightful west-facing garden, perfect for enjoying sunny afternoons. Situated within a peaceful and pleasant neighborhood, the home offers easy access to local amenities, including supermarkets and shops, all within walking distance. The connectivity is further enhanced by convenient access to public transport and major roadways such as the A12 and Antwerp Ring. The interior of the home spans 122 m² of living space and includes an entrance hall leading to an integrated garage, offering both convenience and additional storage. The ground floor also houses a bedroom and a laundry area. On the first floor, the living room benefits from ample natural light, providing a wonderful opportunity to create a modern and cozy living area. Adjacent to the kitchen, which currently contains basic amenities, is a charming terrace ideal for outdoor dining. The bathroom, while functional, could be redesigned into a contemporary space with a thoughtful renovation. A second spacious bedroom completes this level. Additional highlights of the property include a P-score of C and G-score of A, indicating the property's sound structural conditions. The roof has been insulated, contributing to better energy efficiency despite the current energy use rating of 324 kWh/m²/year. With its tranquil location, intimate garden space, and potential for personal customization, this residence offers an excellent opportunity for buyers looking to invest in Wilrijk. Want to know more?

Te koop: charmante VAKANTIEWONING op EuroParcs Zilverstrand Deze goed onderhouden woning biedt een comfortabele leefruimte van 68,75 m². Beneden vind je een lichtrijke living die uitkijkt op de tuin, een volledig ingerichte keuken, en een apart toilet. De tuin van 57 m², gericht op het zuidwesten, biedt de perfecte setting voor lange zomerse avonden in de zon. Op de eerste verdieping kun je drie slaapkamers en de badkamer vinden. De badkamer is uitgerust met een douche en dubbele lavabo, waardoor deze verdieping van alle comfort is voorzien. Het perceel beslaat een oppervlakte van 1a 27ca, gelegen in een prachtig vakantiepark dat garant staat voor rust en recreatie. EuroParcs Zilverstrand is omgeven door natuur, met talloze wandel- en fietspaden, en biedt toegang tot een breed scala aan faciliteiten zoals een zwemmeer, speeltuinen en horecagelegenheden. De omgeving is geliefd om haar groene karakter en nabijheid van gezellige dorpen. Een aantrekkelijk extraatje: de woning wordt verkocht met een gegarandeerd rendement van 5,1%, wat het ook een interessante investering maakt. DOMICILIËRING OP DIT ADRES IS NIET MOGELIJK. Interesse in deze unieke kans? Neem rechtstreeks contact op met de eigenaar via ### of via ### voor meer informatie of een bezichtiging! Want to know more?

This refined townhouse is located in the vibrant district of Antwerp Zuid, offering a perfect blend of modern living and historical charm. Situated at Waalsekaai 11, the property is surrounded by landmarks such as the iconic Gedempte Zuiderdokken, the Schelde River, and Zuidpark. With 425 square meters of living space, this home features five bedrooms and four bathrooms, providing ample space for family living or a professional home office. A standout feature is the integration of smart home technology, including a domotics system, video intercom, and alarm installation, complemented by an energy-efficient EPC rating of 184 kWh/m² per year (B). The residence boasts a thoughtful layout across several floors. The ground floor includes an entrance hall, office space, and two indoor garage boxes. The mezzanine hosts an open-plan living and dining area with a kitchen, along with a bedroom featuring an en-suite bathroom. The first floor offers a generous living room complete with a fireplace and TV area. On the second floor, you will find three additional bedrooms and two bathrooms. The third floor is dedicated to the master bedroom suite with a dressing room, an en-suite bathroom, and access to a 30 m² rooftop terrace. Additionally, the basement spans 67 m², accommodating a wine cellar, technical room, and storage spaces. Occupying a total land area of 95 m² and with two outdoor parking spaces, this property exudes luxury and space in an excellent Antwerp location. Built in 1800 and available upon act signing, it presents an ideal opportunity for those seeking a unique blend of historic essence and modern amenities. For more details or to arrange a visit, please contact us today. Want to know more?

This charming bel-etage home, located at Van Rossumstraat 21 in Deurne, offers an ideal living experience in a tranquil residential neighborhood. Priced at 325,000 €, this property provides easy access to local amenities, including shops, schools, and public transport, all within walking distance. The excellent connectivity to main roads ensures that commutes and travels are convenient. Built in 1932, this well-maintained residence is available for immediate occupancy. The interior of the home features a bright and inviting living space of 31 m² on the first floor, perfect for relaxation or entertaining guests. The adjoining kitchen is partially equipped with a dishwasher, oven, gas stove, and extractor hood, leading to a covered terrace where you can enjoy morning coffee in the sunlight. The property includes three bedrooms, with two located on the upper floor and the third on the ground floor, which is directly connected to a modern bathroom. A separate toilet is also available on the first floor. Additional features include an internal garage and a convenient laundry room with connections for a washing machine and dryer, offering direct access to the cozy garden, which covers an area of 45 m². The home also comes with a basement providing extra storage space. Double glazing throughout ensures energy efficiency, while gas central heating maintains comfort. With a living area of 164 m² and a total plot size of 116 m², this property represents an excellent opportunity in a sought-after location. Please note that the current tenants are renting the property. Want to know more?

Nestled in the peaceful yet centrally located neighborhood of Merksem, this charming split-level residence at Winterling 48 offers a perfect blend of comfort and convenience. Priced at €384,000, the property boasts a spacious living area of 162 m² and is ideal for families seeking both tranquility and accessibility. The house is situated near the Groenendaallaan, providing easy connections to nearby schools, shopping centers, public transportation, and attractions such as Kinepolis. Its proximity to essential amenities makes it a desirable location for potential homeowners. This delightful home features three well-sized bedrooms on the second floor, complemented by a bathroom that includes a bath/shower combination, a vanity unit, and a toilet. The first floor presents a cozy living and dining space adjoining a partially equipped kitchen, which is perfect for both everyday meals and entertaining guests. An additional terrace extends from the living room, offering a secluded spot for relaxation. On the ground floor, residents will find a convenient washroom, a guest toilet with a sink, and a garage that accommodates two smaller vehicles with an automatic door providing access to the landscaped garden and patio. Built in 1978, the property has seen several updates including new windows on floors one and two in 2009, a new boiler in 2011, and roof renovations in 2013 that included insulation and security upgrades to the garage door. The home is fitted with gas heating and includes connections for water and gas utilities. With its renovation history ensuring reduced energy consumption—highlighted by an EPC score of 171 kWh/m²/year—this property is not only a comfortable but also an energy-efficient place to call home. The residence will be available at the end of 2025, offering you ample time to plan your move into this inviting space. Want to know more?

Op te frissen gezinswoning met 4 slaapkamers te Turnhout EPC: C-label | Elektriciteit conform | 4 slaapkamers | Tuin Omschrijving: We betreden de woning via de inkomhal, dewelke enerzijds toegang verleent tot een gezellige zithoek en anderzijds tot de woonkamer met eetkamer. Aansluitend op de woonkamer bevindt zich de keuken. Deze is uitgerust met een gasvuur, dampkap, spoelbak en voorziening voor vaatwasser en microgolfoven. De keuken biedt toegang tot de praktische bergruimte/wasplaats met apart toilet. Als troef geniet deze woning van een gezellige tuin met een degelijk tuinhuis en een binnenkoer. Tevens beschikt de eerste verdieping over 2 volwaardige slaapkamers en een badkamer. De badkamer is uitgerust met een douche, een badkamermeubel met dubbele wastafel en een toilet. Ten slotte biedt de woning op de tweede verdieping nog 2 volwaardige slaapkamers. Alsook een kelderberging ontbreekt hier niet. Algemeen: - EPC: C-label - Elektriciteit conform! - 4 slaapkamers - Tuin Want to know more?

Welcome to this semi-detached residence at Drabstraat 4 in Mortsel, offered at a competitive price of €289,000. This charming home has been largely renovated, providing a modern and fresh look while maintaining its character and charm. With a total living space of 139 m² spread across three floors, it offers ample room for a family with four spacious bedrooms. The kitchen is fully equipped and ready to accommodate your culinary endeavors, while the living area spans a generous 29 m², perfect for family gatherings or relaxation. The property includes a practical garage, ensuring convenient parking and storage options. The absence of a garden means minimal maintenance, allowing you to make the most of your leisure time without the hassle of yard work. This home is also equipped with gas heating and double glazed windows, ensuring energy efficiency and comfort. Additionally, the electrical system has been updated to conform with current standards, leaving only the final touches for you to personalize according to your taste. Located in a desirable area, the home provides easy access to local amenities, including parks like Fort IV, fitness centers, and the vibrant center of Mortsel. The area's infrastructure supports a convenient lifestyle with nearby public transport options. This property is ready for immediate occupancy upon deed transfer, making it an excellent opportunity for those looking to settle in a well-connected, residential neighborhood. For further details or to schedule a viewing, please contact us today. Want to know more?

This charming residence in Mechelen, located at Koning Albertstraat 110, offers a spacious living area of 294 m². Situated in the center of Walem, the property provides excellent access to local amenities including schools, public transport, and leisure spots such as the Netedijk and Domein Roosendael, perfect for cycling and walking enthusiasts. The strategic location ensures a smooth commute to both Brussels and Antwerp, combining the convenience of city living with the tranquility of natural surroundings. The home, built in 1911 and tastefully renovated, features bright and airy spaces that create an inviting atmosphere. The ground floor comprises an entrance hall with a guest toilet, an office, a living room with an open kitchen, a scullery, and a garage. The first floor hosts a bedroom, a dressing room, a bathroom, and a second office, while the second floor includes three additional bedrooms and an extra toilet. The basement provides a laundry room and storage space. Noteworthy features include four bedrooms and two offices, making it ideal for large families or those who work from home. The property boasts a cozy garden with a covered terrace and a bike shed, offering privacy and direct access via a side street. An attached garage and ample storage space enhance its practicality. The house benefits from gas heating and has an EPC rating of B, indicating good energy efficiency. With a selling price of €499,000, this residence is well-suited for those seeking a blend of spacious living and convenient location. Want to know more?

Situated in the vibrant heart of Lier, this residence at Mechelsestraat 79 offers a unique opportunity to own a spacious property dating back to 1850. Just a short walk from the bustling Grote Markt, this home invites you into an authentic entrance hall leading to a generous, light-filled living area with high ceilings. Adjoining the living space is a kitchen area, which comes with necessary connections, and an additional room that can serve as a leisure or dining area. The ground floor also features a garage, perfect for storing bicycles and bins, and provides access to a beautiful south-facing garden. The first floor of this home comprises a bathroom equipped with a single vanity unit and a bathtub, as well as two spacious bedrooms. Ascending to the uppermost floor, you will find two additional bedrooms, offering ample space for family or guests. Additionally, there is an attic room that awaits your personal touch, ready to be transformed into whatever suits your needs. This property spans a total living area of 198 m² within a plot of 325 m², boasting a delightful garden of 184 m². The house is heated with gas and features southeast orientation at the frontage, ensuring plenty of natural light throughout the day. Despite needing renovation, this house presents a perfect canvas for those dreaming of creating their ideal home in an excellent location, with the added advantage of free parking with a resident's card right outside the door. Don't miss out on this rare opportunity in Lier's city center. Want to know more?

Located in the vibrant city center of Lier, this charming residence from 1850 offers a wonderful renovation opportunity for those looking to create their dream home. Situated on Mechelsestraat, the property is just a short walk from the bustling Grote Markt, making it ideally positioned for enjoying all the amenities and cultural attractions that Lier has to offer. With a living area of 229 m², the house features a welcoming entrance hall leading into a light-filled living space with high ceilings and beautiful parquet flooring. The main level includes a kitchen with adjacent dining area and ample storage space, plus an additional utility room. From here, you can access a delightful south-facing garden, providing a peaceful outdoor retreat. Upstairs, the first floor comprises a bathroom equipped with a lavatory unit, separate toilet, and a bathtub, along with two bedrooms. The top floor offers two more rooms, allowing for flexible use and customization according to your preferences. This residence provides the convenience of complimentary street parking with a resident's permit and benefits from excellent connectivity via gas heating. While the property does require renovation, its prime location and potential make it an excellent investment for those seeking to blend historic charm with modern living in Lier's picturesque setting. Want to know more?

Gunstig gelegen gezinswoning met 3-4 slpk te Turnhout. Zeer gunstig gelegen nabij de ring, openbaar vervoer, onderwijs, ..... 3-4 slaapkamers | Vernieuwde ramen 2017 | EPC: 661kWh Omschrijving: We betreden deze charmante woning via de inkomhal, dewelke enerzijds uitgeeft op de leefruimte en anderzijds rechtstreeks toegang biedt tot de keuken. De leefruimte beschikt over een zit- en eethoek en geniet van een prachtige lichtinval dankzij het zicht op het terras achteraan. Aansluitend bevindt zich de keuken, dewelke toegang biedt tot de ruime berging/wasplaats en de achterinkom. Tevens geniet men buiten van een terras van maar liefst 30m² groot. Op de eerste verdieping beschikt deze woning over 3 slaapkamers, een badkamer en een kleine bergruimte. De badkamer is uitgerust met een zitbad en een wastafel. Als troef beschikt deze woning alvast over een vaste trap naar de zolderverdieping, hetwelk een 4de slaapkamer of hobbyruimte biedt. Alsook extra opbergruimte ontbreekt hier niet! Als extra voorziet de woning een praktische kelder. Algemeen: - Gunstige ligging! - 3-4 slaapkamers - NIEUWE RAMEN (2017) - Vaste trap naar zolderverdieping - Kelder - EPC: 661 kWh/m² Want to know more?

Charmante woning met 4a5 slaapkamers en een bewoonbare oppervlakte van 206 m², gelegen te Zoersel, mét paardenstallen + weide! Bij binnenkomst heb je toegang tot de lichtrijke woonkamer, waar een open houthaard mogelijk is, of je kunt deze ruimte gebruiken als bureau of extra slaapkamer. Vanuit de woonkamer bereik je zowel de droge kelder als de gesloten, volledig geïnstalleerde keuken. Aansluitend bevindt zich de badkamer, uitgerust met een toilet, douche en aansluiting voor een wasmachine en droogkast. Via de keuken heb je toegang tot de veranda of de dubbele garage, die gescheiden is door een wand. Op de eerste verdieping bevinden zich vier slaapkamers van respectievelijk 8 tot 10 m², evenals een tweede badkamer met ligbad, lavabomeubel en extra toilet. Buiten vind je een ruime, private tuin, die door een haag gescheiden is van de paardenweide. Deze weide is circa 1000 m² groot en beschikt over drie stallen en extra schuren. Tot slot biedt de zolder nog extra ruimte met tal van mogelijkheden. Extra: EPC: 326 kWh/m² uc: 20250113-0003503623-RES-1 (D-score -> GEEN renovatieverplichting), perceelscore A, gebouwscore A. Niet gelegen in mogelijks of overstromingsgevoelig gebied, niet gelegen in afgebakend overstromingsgebied of afgebakende oeverzone, niet gelegen in risicozone overstromingen, woongebied, stedenbouwkundige info aanwezig. Nabij school, winkels, openbaar vervoer, etc. Voor meer info ga naar ### Want to know more?

Prachtig gerenoveerd herenhuis (180 m² incl. kelder) met gezellige stadskoer Locatie: Dit charmant herenhuis staat te koop in de Bolwerkstraat, een gezellige en hippe straat in het populaire 2018 Antwerpen. Het instapklare huis is gelegen vlakbij talrijke scholen, winkels, gezellige horecagelegenheden, openbaar vervoer en invalswegen. Omschrijving: In de Bolwerkstraat in Antwerpen staat dit prachtig herenhuis te koop. De woning werd anno 2020 volledig gerenoveerd met kwalitatieve materialen en oog voor detail. De authentieke elementen werden met zorg bewaard. We komen binnen via de inkomhal die voorzien is van vestiaire kasten en ons verder toegang biedt tot de lichtrijke leefruimte en de volledig uitgeruste keuken. Vanuit de moderne keuken en de leefruimte is er toegang tot de gezellige stadskoer. Op de eerste tussenverdieping vinden we een apart toilet en de luxueuze badkamer terug. Deze is voorzien van ligbad, inloopdouche en dubbele wastafel. Vervolgens zijn er nog twee slaapkamers op de eerste verdieping en wederom twee slaapkamers op de tweede verdieping. Op de tweede verdieping vinden we daarbovenop de tweede badkamer terug. Ten slotte is er nog een ruime kelder aanwezig. Bijzonderheden: - Uitstekende ligging - Vier slaapkamers en twee badkamers - Gezellige stadskoer - Volledig gerenoveerd met oog voor detail - Bruikbare vloeroppervlakte: 135 m² cfr. EPC + 45 m² bruikbare kelderruimte - Elektriciteit conform AREI - EPC: 219 kWh/ (m² jaar) Want to know more?

Bijzonder aangename woning. Rustig gelegen, net buiten de ring, nabij winkels, scholen, openbaar vervoer, station en oprit E 19. Verrassend ruim, zeer lichtrijk en gezellig. Grotendeels vernieuwd en in zeer goede staat. Gelijkvloers met inkom, living, keuken vernieuwde badkamer en terras. Eerste verdieping met 2 slaapkamers waarvan één met sanitaire voorzieningen. Tweede verdieping met 2 slaapkamers waarvan één met mezzanine. Nieuwe condenserende CV-ketel en triple glas, kortom een aanrader. Want to know more?

Location: Welcome to the peaceful and sought-after Groenenhoek neighborhood in Wilrijk! Here, you can enjoy a green, family-friendly environment with Fort 7 and the petting zoo within walking distance. With shops, schools, and excellent connections via the A12 and public transport nearby, this home offers comfort and convenience at your fingertips. Layout: This fully renovated home combines modern living comfort with a spacious feel. The bright living room with an open kitchen offers an unobstructed view of the garden, seamlessly connecting indoor and outdoor spaces. Additionally, the ground floor features a guest toilet and a practical storage room, enhancing comfort and convenience. On the first floor, you will find two spacious bedrooms and a modern bathroom. The second floor boasts a third, generous bedroom with its own private bathroom. HIGHLIGHTS: ✔ Fully renovated from A to Z ✔ EPC rating B ✔ Bright living space with open kitchen and garden view ✔ 3 spacious bedrooms and 2 bathrooms ✔ Quiet, central location near shops and main roads TECHNICAL DETAILS: The house is equipped with roof and facade insulation with a sleek crépi finish. Heating is provided via gas and a heat pump. Additionally, there is triple glazing, shutters, and a fully finished basement. EXTRA: Is this your first and only property purchase? Then you can benefit from a reduced 2% property transfer tax. Already a homeowner? Sell your first property within two years and still take advantage of this benefit. Interested? Contact us at ### or ### for more information or a free property valuation. Urban planning information pending. Want to know more?