House for sale with 4 facades - Vlaams-Brabant (Province) (page 15)

LEEMANS IMMOBILIËN est fier de vous présenter cette maison de quatre façades, située tranquillement dans une impasse En entrant dans la maison, vous arrivez dans un hall d'entrée spacieux qui donne directement accès à l'agréable et lumineux espace de vie. Vous trouverez ensuite la cuisine ouverte entièrement rénovée, équipée de tous les appareils et du confort nécessaires. Au rez-de-chaussée, vous trouverez également un bureau spacieux, idéal pour ceux qui travaillent à la maison. Le hall d'entrée donne également accès à des toilettes pour invités, un vestiaire fermé et la cave souterraine. Au premier étage, vous trouverez trois chambres à coucher, des toilettes séparées et une salle de bains récemment rénovée, équipée d'une douche à l'italienne et d'une baignoire. Le grenier est accessible par l'escalier fixe et offre d'énormes possibilités d'extension pour créer une chambre supplémentaire et/ou une deuxième salle de bains (tuyauterie déjà prévue). L'ensemble de la maison est équipé d'un système domotique. Un carport se trouve à l'arrière et est accessible par le portail d'entrée situé à gauche de la maison. L'emplacement est particulièrement stratégique pour ceux qui préfèrent une bonne connexion avec Bruxelles. Transports publics à proximité: arrêt de bus à moins de 150 mètres et gare (ligne Bruxelles-Dendermonde) à moins de 550 mètres. Contactez-nous à l'adresse ### ou appelez le ### pour planifier une visite. Want to know more?

IN OPTIE / COMPROMIS IN OPMAAK ! Meer info of uw bezoek plannen kan via ### of via ### Karaktervolle woning met schuur en veel uitbreidingspotentieel op een zeer riant perceel van 28 are in Wolfsdonk (Aarschot). Op een rustige locatie, op wandelafstand van het centrum van Wolfsdonk (Aarschot), vind je deze unieke en deels gerenoveerde woning boordevol charme en mogelijkheden. Gelegen op een uitzonderlijk groot perceel van 28 are, met een bewoonbare oppervlakte die makkelijk kan worden uitgebreid tot meer dan 200 m², is dit pand een absolute buitenkans voor wie ruimte en karakter zoekt. De woning, gebouwd in de jaren '40, werd reeds deels opgefrist en is instapklaar. Tegelijk biedt ze nog heel wat potentieel voor uitbreiding, zowel in de woning als in de aangrenzende schuur: ideaal voor zelfstandigen, creatievelingen of wie droomt van een atelier of praktijk in huis. GV: Inkomhal, stockagekelder, recente keuken, open verbonden met eetplaats en gezellige leefruimte, ruime berging/wasplaats met eerste toilet, grote schuur met rechtstreekse toegangspoort tot voortuin aan de straatzijde ideaal voor zelfstandigen, slaap- of speelkamers, hobbyisten V1: Twee ruime afgewerkte slaapkamers, volledig uitgeruste badkamer met bad, douche, dubbele lavabo en tweede toilet Extra kamer boven de schuur, perfect in te richten als slaapkamer of werkruimte V2: Grote leefzolder met mogelijkheden tot slaapkamer of hobbyruimte Twee bijgebouwen in de tuin voor opslag Garage rechts van de woning Ruime tuin met tal van mogelijkheden, rustgevende tuin, speeltuin, ontspanningszone of dierenweide Bewoonbare oppervlakte uitbreidbaar tot +200 m² Grote schuur met eigen toegang – ideaal voor bijberoep EPC E: met beperkte ingrepen zak je zeer snel Volledig asbestveilig KI NG slechts € 348 Meer info of uw bezoek plannen kan via ### of via ### Want to know more?

Looking for a warm and welcoming home in a peaceful environment, yet close to all amenities? This property is made for you! Located in a quiet neighbourhood, this beautiful 3-bedroom house offers bright and functional living spaces, perfect for welcoming your family. You will be charmed by its superb landscaped garden and its light-filled veranda, ideal for enjoying every season. Bright villa with excellent garden orientation. For your convenience, you will also benefit from a garage, a carport, and a private parking space. A true gem – Don’t wait to schedule your visit, this home won’t be on the market for long! Appointments: ### / ### Want to know more?

Located on the edge of Parc Schaveys, this elegant contemporary villa (5 beautiful bedrooms + 1 maid's bedroom) with a swimming pool is spread over two levels, on a plot of approximately 15 ares, not overlooked. Bathed in light, it is set in an enclosed garden. This approximately 500 m² property was designed in 2012 by architect Luc Toelen with high-end finishes and high-quality materials (solid whitewashed oak parquet flooring, numerous walnut closets, pre-wired audio system, alarm with outdoor camera, underfloor heating, dual-flow ventilation, exterior lighting, and electric gate). On the upper level, around a very bright entrance hall, there are spacious open-plan reception rooms with two fireplaces and a terrace, a large, fully equipped kitchen with a terrace and access to the garden, a pantry, an office, a spacious en-suite bedroom, and a utility room. A garage and carport for two cars are available. On the lower level, there are four bedrooms and three bathrooms with direct access to the garden, a laundry room, technical rooms, and a wine cellar. An 11 x 4 meter outdoor swimming pool with a solar cover. A Grade B property. Absolute tranquility. Excellent condition, worth a visit. Want to know more?

This charming four-sided villa is situated in a peaceful street on the border of Braine-l'Alleud, in the municipality of Sint-Genesius-Rode. Built in the 1970s, the property offers approximately 195 square meters of living space on a spacious 845-square-meter lot, including a well-maintained garden of around 540 square meters. The villa features four façades, providing good natural light and a traditional architectural style. Inside, the current layout includes a large living room of 43 square meters with an open fireplace, complemented by a veranda of 13 square meters that extends the living space. The ground floor also includes a small room suitable as a home office or nursery, two bedrooms measuring 10 and 11.5 square meters, a fully equipped kitchen, a laundry area, a bathroom, and a guest toilet. The upper level is currently set up as a small apartment that could be transformed into additional bedrooms or living spaces. The property is heated with gas and has a total of four bedrooms, making it suitable for families or those seeking extra space. The villa is ready for renovation, offering potential for customization to meet personal preferences. Its location provides a quiet environment while being close to local amenities and just a short distance from Braine-l'Alleud, making it an attractive option for those looking to update a classic home in a serene setting. Want to know more?

*** OPTION *** STERREBEEK: Beautiful villa in need of complete renovation, with a living area of 180m² (214m² built) and situated on a plot of 556m² ideally located in a gated community next to the American school. The house comprises on the ground floor an entrance hall with toilet (16m²), a bright living room with open fire (30m²), a kitchen (11m²), 2 bedrooms (13 & 12m²), a study (8m²) and a shower room (4m²). Upstairs, there is a hallway (10m²), 3 bedrooms (18, 16 & 16m²) and a bathroom with toilet (16m²). In the basement, there is a garage (21m²), a laundry room (10m²) and a wine cellar (6m²). Outside, there is a beautiful 250m² south-facing garden with a terrace (15m²). Recent gas boiler (2021). Renovations are required as the house is currently divided into two flats. All available documents can be consulted on our website ! Want to know more?

**** SOUS COMPROMIS **** Dans un quartier résidentiel calme, vous trouverez ce bungalow à rénover, situé dans une impasse bordée de champs. La décoration datant de 1970 doit être modernisée. Il est agencé comme suit : hall d'entrée spacieux avec toilettes, séjour de 42 m² très lumineux, cuisine (le séjour et la cuisine donnent toutes deux accès à la terrasse et au jardin orienté sud-ouest), hall de nuit avec accès au grenier et à la cave, salle de bains et 2 chambres spacieuses. En plus de ce niveau de 120 m², la maison dispose d'une cave de 120 m² supplémentaires. Celle-ci comprend un garage, une chaufferie et des espaces de rangement. Vous recherchez une maison à la structure solide et au potentiel élevé, située dans un cadre verdoyant et facilement accessible ? N'hésitez pas à nous contacter pour une visite via ### . Want to know more?

Découvrez cette maison 4 façades prête à emménager, avec une allée magnifiquement aménagée et un jardin entièrement clôturé, facile d’entretien — idéal pour les enfants et les animaux. Grâce au robot tondeuse, vous ne devez jamais tondre la pelouse. En entrant par le hall avec WC séparé, vous êtes immédiatement plongé dans une atmosphère chaleureuse et accueillante. Le séjour cosy avec poêle à bois constitue le cœur de la maison et donne accès à la cuisine entièrement équipée (rénovée en 2006), à la véranda lumineuse et à la terrasse. Un store banne vous permet de profiter confortablement des journées ensoleillées. Au rez-de-chaussée se trouvent deux chambres (10 m² et 12 m²), une buanderie pratique avec local technique ainsi qu'une salle de douche moderne avec un deuxième WC. Un escalier fixe mène à l’étage où une grande pièce de 20 m², accessible via un palier, peut servir de troisième chambre, bureau ou espace hobby. En outre, un espace au-dessus du garage peut facilement être aménagé en bureau supplémentaire ou atelier. La maison a été modernisée avec de nouveaux châssis en 2015, ce qui améliore l’isolation et le confort. Elle est idéalement située à proximité des commerces, des écoles, des transports en commun et offre un accès aisé vers Bruxelles et l’E40. Cette habitation allie charme, confort et fonctionnalité dans un emplacement de choix — idéale pour ceux qui souhaitent emménager sans souci. Want to know more?

CHARMANTE BUNGALOW IN PRACHTOMGEVING. Ontdek deze instapklare bungalow gelegen in het idyllische Herne, een van de meest geliefde dorpen van het Pajottenland. Hier woont u in alle rust en groen, met uitgestrekte velden, glooiende landschappen en schilderachtige vergezichten recht voor de deur. De woning ligt op een rustige locatie, perfect voor wie houdt van natuur, wandelen en fietsen, maar tegelijk dicht bij alle voorzieningen. Het station van Herne biedt een vlotte verbinding naar Brussel, terwijl lokale winkels, scholen en horeca op wandel- of fietsafstand liggen. Met zijn landelijke charme en uitstekende ligging is deze bungalow een unieke kans voor wie comfortabel en rustig wil wonen in een van de mooiste regio’s van Vlaams-Brabant. De woning kan verder verbeterd worden (zonnepanelen, warmtepompen, dakbedekking en extra isolatie) maar kreeg de voorbije jaren al een belangrijke make-over met onder meer een vernieuwde keuken en badkamer. INDELING : zie plan bij de foto's. BEZOEKEN ? Bel ### of mail en vraag naar een bezoek met vastgoedmakelaar Cedric die u alle relevante info geeft bij de verkoop van deze interessante woning ! Want to know more?

Property with an impressive living area of 460 m², divided between the main residence, a multifunctional attic and a charming garden pavilion, situated on a plot of 4853 m². Despite its generous dimensions, the property exudes tranquillity and harmony, ideal for those looking for opportunities for kangaroo living, co-housing, or combining living and an independent profession. Upon entering the generous entrance hall with guest toilet and direct access to both the attic space and the garden, you are immediately embraced by the warm atmosphere of the house. The living room and kitchen feature authentic wooden beams, a cosy wood-burning stove and round wooden doors, creating a cosy and inviting living space where you can completely unwind. The nighthall, which connects to the living room, leads to three spacious bedrooms and a stylish bathroom. The hallway is also enriched with a practical library cupboard, a perfect place to relax with a good book. Upstairs is the fourth bedroom and an impressive open space of 120 m². This authentic attic, preserving its beautiful wooden beams, is an unwritten canvas, ready to be converted to your own taste as additional sleeping areas, office or playroom. The rural location of this property, in a quiet street in Hever, provides a permanent holiday feeling. Surrounded by a beautifully landscaped garden and adjacent to an endless green plot, this place offers pure tranquillity. A unique asset of the property is the guest house in the garden. This charming pavilion features a cosy living room with open kitchen, a bedroom, bathroom and an additional relaxation area in the circular part of the building. Whether you dream of kangaroo living, co-housing, or practising an independent profession at home, this villa offers all possibilities. Come discover this beautiful property and make your dreams come true. Want to know more?

Hidden in the green and in absolute privacy, you will find this exceptional villa on a 5000 m² estate in Meise. A unique combination of luxury, space, and serenity. Beautifully landscaped plot of 5000 m² in the second line, complete privacy guaranteed. 5 full bedrooms and a separate office, ideal for a large family and/or working from home. High-quality and sustainable materials throughout the entire property. 2 bathrooms, spacious kitchen, and a breathtaking garden with expansive views. Prime location in Meise, surrounded by nature and yet easily accessible. This is not your average home, but a unique opportunity to live on a private estate where peace and nature are central. A dream home for those seeking a life away from the hustle and bustle. Ready to discover this hidden paradise? Contact Tim for a visit: T: ### M: ### Want to know more?

Welcome to this charming home in picturesque Elingen. This spacious family home offers no less than 5 bedrooms, ideal for large families or those who need extra space. The home is situated on a generous 1800m² plot, which provides plenty of privacy and a beautiful green setting. Upon entering, the spacious and bright living room welcomes you with an inviting atmosphere, perfect for cozy moments with family and friends. The dining room, adjacent to the kitchen, offers a beautiful view of the garden through large sliding windows that provide abundant natural light. The kitchen is modern and well-equipped, equipped with all necessary appliances and plenty of storage space, making cooking a pleasure. From the kitchen you have direct access to the beautiful garden, where you can enjoy sunny days on the terrace or relax in the shade of the trees. With five inviting bedrooms, there is more than enough room for every family member to retire. The home also features a convenient garage and walk-in closet, making storage easy. This home is a perfect blend of comfort and style, located in a quiet area, yet easily accessible. A unique opportunity to find your dream home in a green oasis. Don't hesitate to come see and discover the many possibilities this property has to offer. This property is currently rented so notice to respect. Want to know more?

Stéphanie De Neve - ### -- Venez découvrir cette charmante maison 4 façades des années 70, au caractère architectural inspiré du style français, érigée sur un superbe terrain d’environ 10 ares, à l’abri des regards. Située dans un clos calme et verdoyant, tout en restant proche de la gare et des commodités, elle séduira les amateurs par sa tranquillité et son confort raffiné. La maison se distingue par ses agréables volumes et sa belle luminosité. Le rez-de-chaussée offre un vaste séjour en L, une cuisine donnant accès à la terrasse et au jardin, ainsi qu’un bureau idéal pour le télétravail. Les matériaux nobles tels que le travertin et le fer forgé confèrent à la cage d’escalier un cachet unique et majestueux. À l’étage, vous trouverez quatre chambres, une salle de bain, une salle de douche pouvant aisément être réagencé afin de créer un espace parental. Le sous-sol, entièrement sur caves, comprend également un spacieux garage. Facile à remettre au gout du jour, cette maison complète et lumineuse constitue une belle opportunité pour qui recherche une habitation de caractère, dans un cadre verdoyant et serein, sans renoncer à la proximité des transports et services. Want to know more?

Discover an exceptional opportunity to acquire a stunning new villa in Roosdaal, a charming location within the region. This modern property, built in 2025, offers an impressive combination of comfort, efficiency, and stylish design, making it an ideal choice for families or individuals seeking a high-quality home. Priced at €391,050, this villa encompasses various state-of-the-art features, including a fully equipped American kitchen, three bedrooms, and a contemporary bathroom. Its excellent energy performance is underscored by an E-peil of 23, double glazing, and advanced heating systems such as a heat pump and underfloor heating powered by solar energy. The villa's construction adheres to current standards for low-energy homes, ensuring reduced utility costs and environmental impact. The property is situated on a generous plot of 366 square meters, offering ample outdoor space with a garden and a rainwater collection tank of 10,000 liters. The exterior features include four facades, a garage, and parking for two vehicles—one indoor and one outdoor—providing convenience and security for residents and visitors alike. Enhanced by sustainable installations such as solar panels and a heat pump, the villa exemplifies contemporary eco-friendly living. Its infrastructure includes full utilities connections—water, gas, sewer—and certification for electrical safety, aligning with Belgium’s stringent building standards. The property benefits from a certificate of conformity for electrical installations and a low environmental impact with an E-peil of only 23. Roosdaal offers a peaceful yet accessible environment, well-connected to regional amenities and services. The city’s planning permissions include a valid development permit, ensuring the property complies with local regulations. This residence is available for immediate possession with flexible terms. For prospective buyers interested in this unique opportunity, detailed information and documentation are available via ImmoVlan, or you can contact us directly at ### to arrange a viewing or discuss financing options. Whether selling an existing property or seeking a fresh start in a modern, eco-efficient home, this villa presents an outstanding investment in quality Belgian real estate. Want to know more?

Discover this charming residence for sale in Buizingen, an excellent opportunity for those seeking a versatile and spacious family home. Priced at €369,000, this four-sided, traditional family house offers a generous living area with a total habitable surface of approximately 185 m², situated on a sizable plot of 566 m². The property is well-positioned on Biezeput 32, providing convenient access to local amenities, public transportation options, and main roads, making it ideal for daily commuting and enjoying the vibrant community life of Buizingen. This residence boasts four bedrooms and two bathrooms, including a full bathroom equipped with a bathtub, washbasin with cabinetry, and bidet, as well as a separate shower room with an additional toilet. The ground floor features an inviting entrance hall with a convenient toilet, a spacious living room seamlessly connected to an open-plan kitchen occupying 48 m², perfect for family gatherings and entertaining guests. A veranda extends the living space outdoors, while a bedroom of 15.60 m² on the ground level provides flexibility for guests or potential office use. The first floor accommodates three more bedrooms—one of 19.10 m² and two larger bedrooms measuring 24.00 m² and 14.20 m²—plus a shower room with a shower and toilet. The property includes practical features such as three cellars/utility rooms totaling around 45 m², a garage with a sectional door measuring 4.05 x 6.28 meters, along with outdoor parking areas, a terrace, and a garden ideal for outdoor activities or relaxation. Constructed in 1979, this home is equipped with double-glazed wooden windows ensuring good insulation, complemented by oil central heating for efficient warmth during cooler months. The property benefits from a legal energy performance certificate (EPC) rating of 454 kWh/m², reflecting its energy profile. The outdoor space is fully enclosed and offers privacy and security for residents and visitors alike. This residence is available immediately upon signing the deed and is not currently rented out, providing a straightforward purchase process for interested buyers. With its spacious layout, generous outdoor areas, and excellent location in Buizingen, this property presents an appealing opportunity for families or investors seeking a comfortable home with room for personalization. If you are interested in this property or wish to explore further details, do not hesitate to contact us to arrange a viewing or request additional information. This well-maintained family residence combines comfort, practicality, and location advantages—an outstanding choice in the Buizingen area. Want to know more?

Discover this charming residence for sale in the heart of Halle, a property that offers a wonderful opportunity for families or investors seeking a versatile and spacious home. Priced at €369,000, this well-maintained four-sided house combines comfort, functionality, and a convenient location, making it an ideal choice for those looking to settle in this vibrant city. Situated on a generous plot of 5 a 66 ca (566 m²), the property features a total living area of approximately 185 m², providing ample space for everyday living and entertaining. Inside, the house boasts four bedrooms and two bathrooms, including a modern shower room and a full bathroom equipped with a bath, sink with furniture, and bidet. The ground floor welcomes you with an inviting entrance hall with a toilet, leading into a spacious living room seamlessly connected to an open-plan kitchen spanning 48 m²—perfect for family gatherings and social occasions. Additional highlights include a veranda that extends the living space and a bedroom of 15.60 m² on the ground floor, offering flexibility for guests or a home office. The first floor accommodates three additional bedrooms measuring 19.10 m², 24.00 m², and 14.20 m², along with another shower room with a toilet. The property also benefits from three cellars/utility rooms totaling up to 45 m², providing practical storage options. Externally, this residence is complemented by a garage with a sectional door measuring 4.05 x 6.28 meters, offering secure parking and additional storage. The driveway allows for several outside parking spaces, while the landscaped garden and terrace provide ample outdoor space for relaxation and leisure activities. The house features double-glazed wooden windows for enhanced insulation and energy efficiency, complemented by oil-fired central heating. Built in 1979, the property has been maintained to ensure comfort and functionality. Ideally located close to all necessary amenities, public transportation options, and main roads, this home offers excellent accessibility to explore Halle and its surroundings. The property is available immediately upon signing the deed, with no current tenants occupying it. Contact us today to arrange a viewing and make this lovely family home yours in Halle. Want to know more?

Immo Groot Leeuw proudly presents this stunning manor house, nestled in a green oasis. Tucked away in a quiet street between open fields and a regional road, this 356 m² home offers a rare combination of peace and excellent accessibility to Brussels and the Ring.Originally built in 1948 in French manor style, the villa boasts 7 spacious bedrooms and 2 bathrooms, set on a generous plot of 20a97ca. The high-quality materials throughout the home retain beautiful authentic elements, all of which have been meticulously maintained.Accessible via a wide driveway, the ground floor features an elegant entrance hall leading to a bright living room, lounge, dining room, and a recently renovated fully equipped kitchen with direct access to the terrace and the stunning garden with pond. A separate entrance leads to the workshop, double garage, and two storage rooms.On the first floor, you’ll find 5 large bedrooms (each at least 16 m²) and 2 fully equipped bathrooms with both bath and shower. Each room enjoys complete privacy thanks to the surrounding greenery.The second floor includes two service rooms and attic spaces that can easily be converted into additional rooms.Finally, the property offers approximately 100 m² of cellar space — perfect for storage in a vibrant family home.Let yourself be charmed by the unique warmth and character of this exceptional home in a beautiful setting!Do you love high ceilings, authentic features, greenery, and a strategic location? Contact us at ### or ### for more information or to schedule a visit! Want to know more?

WEZEMBEEK-OPPEM, ideally located not far from the British School and Place Dumon, new luxury VILLA of 268 m² (3bed/1bath/1shower) with a TERRACE of 27 m² and a GARDEN, allowing you to move into the heart of a green, quiet, family-friendly residential area, while remaining close to Brussels, the main roads (R0, E40, E411) and all amenities (shops, schools, bus, tram). Spread over 3 levels, the ground floor comprises an entrance hall with cloakroom area, a utility/laundry room and a large garage. The garden level comprises a hall with guest WC, a beautiful 55.5 m² living room opening onto the south-east-facing terrace and garden, a super-equipped open-plan kitchen and a study area. On the top floor, a night hall, a 19 m² master bedroom with dressing area and en suite shower room (double washbasin, shower, WC), two other bedrooms (14.7 and 16.6 m²), a bathroom (washbasin, bath) and a separate WC. The villa features contemporary, elegant architecture, high-quality interior finishes and the latest technologies in terms of energy performance (optimum insulation, heat pump, photovoltaic panels, underfloor heating). It has an enclosed GARAGE with direct access to the house, as well as an outdoor parking space. Sale of the land subject to 12% registration duty and the buildings subject to 21% VAT. PEB A. Discover it at L&P! Want to know more?

Alsemberg, bordering Sint-Genesius-Rode. A beautiful classic villa on the edge of a field behind the Boesdaalhoeve. High-quality finishes and a stunning natural setting. Built on a 13-acre plot with privacy, this property offers a total living area of ​​410 m². The living areas open onto a beautiful garden with space for a swimming pool. On the ground floor, there is a spacious 74 m² living room with a fireplace, a fitted kitchen, and a lovely south-facing terrace. A bedroom with a bathroom, ideal for an extra room or a separate office, is also located on the groundfloor. Upstairs, the house offers five bedrooms (18, 18, 24, 26, and 30 m²), a spacious bathroom, and a storage room in the attic. EPC rating: E: if the electric radiators are replaced with gas heating, the EPC would receive a C rating (a simulation has been done). The property features a recently insulated roof, a double garage with a laundry room, and two parking spaces in front of the house. Numerous built-in wardrobes and an alarm system are also included. Close to the center of Rhode, the train station, shops, schools, public transportation, and an ideal starting point for nature walks. For a visit, SCOTTY'S is available at ### or ### . Don't forget to leave your phone number. Thank you. Want to know more?

A home becomes a real home when you maintain it like a true house father/mother. And that is certainly the case here, and then some. These lovely owners have maintained their villa extremely well; the home shines from front to back and from top to bottom. Also ideal for a slightly larger family / blended family / live-in parents. The location: extremely easy connection to Eppegem center - Zemst - Grimbergen - Mechelen. Layout: bright and spacious entrance hall - spacious living room (42m²) adjoining the beautiful kitchen with breakfast nook (18m²) - storage room - toilet - bathroom (shower + toilet + washbasin + connection for washing machine) - bedroom of 15m² - office 22m². Your growing kids will be even happier than they already are; the marble staircase leads them to the upper floor: 3 spacious bedrooms (28m² - 14m² - 25m²) and a bathroom of 8m² (shower + washbasin + toilet). Private parking for 2 to 3 cars on the driveway. The owners have spared no effort or expense to make their gem shine...the photos speak for themselves... Welcome to Eppegem. Want to know more?