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Nestled in the heart of Hoegaarden, this investment property presents a unique opportunity for developers. Located at Stoopkensstraat 18, this project ground is fully licensed for the construction of six modern apartments, making it an ideal choice for those looking to invest in a burgeoning residential area. The plot spans 646 m² and includes essential utility connections such as gas, electricity, and water, ensuring a smooth transition for future development. The property features nine above-ground parking spaces and a bicycle storage area, enhancing the convenience and appeal to potential residents. Situated in a peaceful, green environment, the location offers the perfect balance between the charm of Hoegaarden and the accessibility to urban amenities. With approved plans already in place, this site is primed for development, allowing for a streamlined project process. Priced at €700,000, this property offers a ready-to-go project for developers seeking a promising investment. The area is zoned for residential use, further streamlining any development efforts. For more information or to express interest in this outstanding opportunity, you can reach out via ### or ### . Want to know more?

Centrally located apartment project with garages and parking spaces. Permit obtained for construction of 6 one- or two-bedroom apartments. Part of the building already exists and will require renovation, the other part is to be built. The project is located on a plot of almost 11 ares. Information and visits on request. Offers starting at 350,000€ subject to acceptance by sellers Want to know more?

In a small building without elevator, spacious 87m² apartment with individual meters, comprising a fitted kitchen, a living room, two bedrooms, an office, a shower room and a 43m² convertible attic. Private parking available. Double-glazed aluminum frames, propane gas boiler. Want to know more?

Complete presentation with plans and dynamic video: ### Investment property – Center of Jodoigne Rare opportunity! Ideally located investment property in the heart of Jodoigne, consisting of 15 rented units, offering excellent profitability. In compliance with urban planning and fire safety standards. Double-glazed wooden frames, individual electric meters, central heating (gas and oil) with calorimeters. Pleasant communal garden. Must be explored without delay! Energy performance certificate ranging from B to G depending on the units. Want to know more?

Discover an exceptional investment opportunity in the heart of Sint-Truiden with this versatile property located at Luikersteenweg 9. Priced at €249,000, this well-situated real estate asset features two distinct residential units, offering immediate rental income and substantial potential for enhancement. The building, constructed in 1934, comprises a duplex/triplex apartment on the upper floors currently leased out, ensuring a steady cash flow from day one. The ground-floor unit, although needing some refurbishment, presents a wealth of possibilities for investors or owner-occupiers looking to customize their living space. With a total living area that includes two bedrooms, a spacious living room with an open kitchen, a bathroom with shower facilities, and additional storage options, this property is as practical as it is promising. The upper-level duplex/triplex apartment benefits from its modern EPC label B (158 kWh/m²/year) and features a bright living room with open kitchen access, a comfortable bedroom, a bathroom equipped with a bath-shower combination and double sink, and an attic for extra storage. Both apartments enjoy outdoor terraces—measuring around 19 m²—perfect for relaxing or entertaining. The property also includes a cellar of approximately 28 m², a south-west facing garden providing outdoor space and natural light, and multiple amenities such as gas heating, double glazing, water, electricity, and gas connections. The ground-floor apartment's EPC label E indicates room for improvement, which could further increase the property's value and appeal. Situated in a prime urban setting, this property benefits from its proximity to all essential amenities—shopping centers, schools, cafes, restaurants, and public transportation—making it highly attractive for tenants or future homeowners alike. Its location within a residential zoning area ensures peace and privacy while maintaining easy access to the vibrant city center of Sint-Truiden. Whether you're seeking a lucrative rental investment or an adaptable property to develop, this asset offers significant potential. Contact Niels at ### today to arrange a viewing or for further information about this promising opportunity in one of Flanders' most charming cities. Want to know more?

This property is a fully renovated student accommodation located at Diestsevest 117 in Leuven. The building has a rich history, formerly serving as the residence of the Montfort monks, and has now been transformed into modern, furnished student rooms and studios. The units vary in size from 12 to 30 square meters, with each having its own private bathroom, making it an ideal setup for students seeking comfort and convenience. The building offers communal amenities such as spacious kitchens with dining areas, a relaxation lounge, and a garden, creating a welcoming environment for residents. In addition, there is a bicycle storage area for added practicality. The property features a lift for ease of access to the different floors. Heating is provided by gas, and the building is compliant with current electrical and asbestos safety standards. The apartment on offer is situated on the first floor, providing a private space of 14 square meters with a bathroom included. Located close to Leuven's station, this property benefits from excellent transportation links and proximity to the city center. This makes it a practical choice for students or investors looking for rental potential in a vibrant university city. The property is currently not rented out and is available for immediate transfer, with an expected delivery date of September 15, 2025. It is sold under registration rights, offering a straightforward purchase process. Want to know more?

Discover a remarkable investment opportunity in the heart of Sint-Truiden with this fully renovated building offering excellent rental income prospects. Located at Stationsstraat 57, this property was completely refurbished in 2024 using high-quality materials, ensuring durability and modern appeal. The building comprises three independent apartments, all currently leased, providing a stable and attractive gross yield of 3%. The property is ideally situated just steps from the train station, offering convenient access for residents, and is within walking distance of various amenities such as schools, shops, and restaurants. This prime location enhances its appeal for tenants seeking comfort and accessibility in this vibrant city. The property boasts a well-thought-out layout spread across multiple floors. On the ground floor, there is a bicycle storage area and a spacious apartment with an en-suite bathroom and terrace, perfect for tenants seeking outdoor space. The first-floor apartment features a single bedroom with an additional terrace, ideal for singles or couples. The second and third floors are occupied by a duplex apartment with two bedrooms, providing flexibility for larger households or rental diversification. The building also includes a cellar for additional storage, adding to its practical appeal. With three bathrooms and three toilets distributed throughout the units, the property ensures comfort and convenience for all tenants. The gas heating system supports efficient energy use, complementing the modern electrical installation certified with an EPC reference of EP15513. This investment property is presented in impeccable condition, with all three units currently rented and available immediately. With a price of €749,000, excluding VAT, it represents a sound choice for investors seeking a stable income stream coupled with appreciation potential in a strategic location. The building's two facades enhance its architectural presence while being situated outside flood-prone areas ensures peace of mind regarding environmental risks. If you are interested in acquiring a turnkey rental investment in Sint-Truiden, do not hesitate to contact our office for further details and to arrange a viewing. This opportunity combines high-quality renovation, strategic location, and reliable income—making it an ideal addition to any real estate portfolio. Want to know more?

Discover a promising investment opportunity in the heart of Hannut with this versatile property offering. Located at Rue de Landen 12, this property is listed at €520,000, presenting a substantial chance for investors seeking both residential and commercial potential. The property comprises two spacious apartments, each measuring approximately 75 m², thoughtfully designed to include a living room, dining area, kitchen, bedroom, and bathroom. These units provide practical and adaptable layouts ideal for rental income or future renovation projects. The ground floor features a large commercial space spanning 411 m², offering excellent prospects for retail, office use, or other commercial ventures. Although the apartments require some renovation or refreshment to unlock their full potential, their configuration allows for flexible customization according to specific needs or preferences. Situated within close proximity to local shops, schools, and major roads, this property benefits from an advantageous central location in Hannut, making it highly accessible and attractive for tenants or future occupants. The total built surface area is 471 m², with a plot size of 452 m², providing ample outdoor space and building capacity. The property was constructed around 1900 and benefits from modern amenities such as gas heating, water, electricity, and gas connections. It is not located in a flood-prone zone, ensuring security and peace of mind for future investments. This property’s energy performance certificate (EPC) class G indicates room for efficiency improvements, yet its substantial size and adaptable layout present significant potential for value addition. The property’s structural features include two facades with a combined width of 9 meters and a southeast orientation that allows for natural light to flood the interiors. The total lot extends over 61 meters in depth, offering generous outdoor space on a sizeable plot. The building’s historical aspect combined with its central location makes it an attractive candidate for refurbishment or development. With a strong foundation dating back to 1900, this estate offers both charm and the flexibility needed for various investment strategies. The property is available for acquisition with the possibility of making an offer starting at €520,000, subject to the seller’s acceptance. For further details or to schedule a viewing, interested parties can contact Arnaud at ### or visit ### Whether you are looking to expand your portfolio or develop a custom project in Hannut, this property provides a solid foundation with significant potential for growth and personalized adaptation. Don’t miss this opportunity to invest in a centrally located estate with versatile uses—get in touch today to explore how this property can meet your investment criteria. Want to know more?

Right in the center of Leuven, near the Sluispark, Gasthuisberg and the trendy Vaartkom, we are pleased to offer for sale this multifunctional property with city court. This surprisingly spacious property offers numerous possibilities and is, among other things, extremely suitable for co-housing. Situated on a 165 m² plot and with a frontage width of no less than 8.20 meters, this property, with a useful living space of 356 m², comprises on the ground floor a spacious entrance hall, a first bedroom or office space, a bright living room with adjoining multipurpose room and first bathroom. The garden level has a fitted kitchen with again several multipurpose rooms and access to the perfectly oriented city garden. Higher up on the first and second floor there are 3 full-size bedrooms each with their own sink and a bathroom with shower. On the third floor there is another bedroom and a separate toilet. The large living area and presence of several bathrooms and bedrooms make this property suitable for those looking for light and space located in the center of Leuven, but also for those looking for a co-housing project. Provided that a favorable environmental permit is obtained, it is possible to turn this family home into a multi-family dwelling. In short, a multifunctional house in a prime location with easy access to the surrounding roads. An opportunity! Want to know more?

Discover an exceptional investment opportunity in the heart of Leuven with this beautifully renovated ground-floor apartment, offering a perfect blend of modern comfort and high-quality craftsmanship. Priced at €349,000, this property stands out for its recent comprehensive renovation, which has transformed the building back to its bare structure and finished it with premium materials, ensuring durability and aesthetic appeal. Its spacious layout is accentuated by impressive 4-meter-high ceilings, providing an extraordinary sense of space and light that elevates the living experience. The apartment comprises a bright living area, a fully equipped kitchen, a bedroom with access to a generous 15 m² terrace, a bathroom, a hallway with a separate toilet, and additional storage space in the corridor. A large cellar in the underground level further enhances its practicality. Located at Tiensevest 88 in Leuven, this residence benefits from an excellent setting within a well-established residential area. Leuven's vibrant city life, cultural amenities, and excellent connectivity make this property an ideal choice for those seeking a convenient yet tranquil living environment. The building is compliant with modern standards, featuring double-glazed windows, gas central heating, and certified electrical installations. The apartment is also EPC B-label certified, asbestos-safe, and not susceptible to flooding, ensuring peace of mind for future owners. The property is currently not rented, making it a straightforward acquisition for investors or owner-occupiers looking to customize their living space in a dynamic city. If you are interested in exploring this unique Leuven apartment further, professional contact options are readily available. You can reach out via email at ### or by phone at ### for a viewing appointment or more details. Additional documentation such as EPC certificates, soil reports, and other property-related information can be found on the dedicated webpage of the listing. This property offers not only a remarkable living or investment opportunity but also the potential to become part of Leuven’s vibrant community, with ease of access to local amenities and excellent transport links. Don’t miss out on this chance to secure a modern, fully renovated apartment in one of Belgium’s most lively cities—schedule your visit today. Want to know more?

Discover a remarkable investment opportunity in the charming town of Geer, with this exceptional property offered at €279,000. This unique estate comprises two interconnected houses, providing versatile options for various uses such as a professional practice, a rental investment, or a spacious family residence. Located conveniently within reach of local amenities, this property combines practicality with potential, making it an attractive choice for discerning buyers seeking both comfort and flexibility. The first house is a delightful bungalow that offers approximately 62m² of living space according to the EPC. It features two bedrooms, a bright living room of around 28m², an open-plan kitchen equipped with an electric stove, oven, hood, and sink, as well as a bathroom with a bathtub, lavabo, and WC. This house also benefits from a garden, terraces, lateral passageway, and a garage. It is equipped with PVC and wood double-glazed windows, manual shutters in places, and heating is provided by oil central heating. The second house is a spacious semi-detached property of approximately 216m² that offers extensive living arrangements across multiple levels. It includes a basement with three cellars and an 18m² garage, a ground floor with an entrance hall, a large living room of about 30m², and a semi-equipped kitchen. Upstairs are two bedrooms with built-in wardrobes, a bathroom with shower and washbasin, and additionally a large bedroom with dressing area on the second floor. The property boasts multiple terraces, a garden, two garages, and ample parking space, all set on a generous land area of 894m². Situated in Geer, this estate benefits from its strategic location ideal for both residential comfort and investment purposes. The total property energy performance certificate (EPC) ratings are F for the larger house and G for the bungalow, with primary energy consumptions of 483 and 1041 kWh/m² per year respectively. The entire estate is heated centrally by oil, and the buildings feature three-sided facades with outdoor terraces totaling 37m². The total annual energy consumption is approximately 64,513 kWh for the bungalow and 104,265 kWh for the larger house. With a total property tax (R.C.) of €1,144, comprising €401 for the bungalow and €743 for the larger house, this estate offers substantial value for investors or buyers seeking a flexible property in Geer. Don’t miss out on this exceptional opportunity to acquire a property with significant potential in Geer. Whether you are looking to develop it further or utilize it as a multi-purpose residence or commercial space, this estate adapts to your needs. Contact us today to arrange a viewing or to obtain further information about this promising investment property. This is a rare chance to secure a large, versatile property in an appealing location—act now to make this opportunity yours. Want to know more?

Discover a prime investment opportunity in the vibrant heart of Scherpenheuvel-Zichem with this well-maintained property located at Brouwerijstraat 4. Priced at €545,000, this multi-unit building offers a compelling chance for savvy investors seeking solid returns in a strategic location. Built in 1910, the property features a total of five separate units, all currently rented, which together generate a monthly gross income of €2,838.17. With a projected gross yield between 5 and 6%, this asset promises attractive returns and an efficient management structure, as three of the units are managed by a social rental agency, providing ease of ownership and tenant stability. The property's layout includes a range of living spaces: on the first floor, a one-bedroom apartment with a separate storage room; on the second floor, two one-bedroom apartments; and on the third floor, two studios also accompanied by a storage area. This diversity in unit types enhances the property's appeal to a broad tenant base and maximizes income potential. The building is situated in a highly accessible and central location, offering excellent connectivity to neighboring cities such as Diest, Aarschot, and Leuven. All essential amenities—including shops, public transport options, and schools—are within short walking distance, which adds to the attractiveness for tenants and ensures a steady demand. The façade is scheduled for renovation in early July 2025, further enhancing the property's value and curb appeal. Additionally, the property benefits from modern certifications, including a primary energy consumption certificate indicating an energy use of 182 kWh/m²/year and an electrical installation certificate compliant with regulatory standards. The total land area measures 159 m², with a buildable footprint of 123 m² and a south-east-facing façade with two exposure sides, offering potential for future modifications or extensions if desired. Investors looking for a reliable income stream will appreciate the immediate availability of this property, which requires no waiting period to start generating revenue. Its location within a designated living area with cultural value and its absence from flood-prone zones make it a secure choice in terms of urban planning and environmental considerations. Whether you are an experienced portfolio builder or looking to diversify your real estate investments, this property offers both stability and growth potential. For those interested in expanding their real estate holdings in Belgium or seeking a smart addition to their investment portfolio, this Scherpenheuvel-Zichem property warrants serious consideration. Contact us today to schedule a viewing or to receive more detailed information about this excellent opportunity. Want to know more?

Discover an exceptional investment opportunity in the heart of Aarschot with this versatile property located at Pastoor Dergentlaan 33. Priced at €750,000, this investment property offers a compelling prospect for discerning investors seeking a centrally situated asset with immediate income potential. Built in 1974 and situated on a spacious 428 m² plot, this property comprises three apartments, each providing unique living spaces that are currently rented out, ensuring steady rental income from day one. The property is classified as 'to renovate,' presenting a chance to enhance its value further and tailor the units to specific tenant needs or your investment strategy. The ground-floor apartment features a charming terrace and contains two bedrooms—one with a lavabo and another with an adjoining bathroom—alongside a luminous living room, an eat-in kitchen, and an inviting entrance hall. The first-floor apartment also offers two bedrooms, a spacious living area, a separate kitchen, a bathroom, storage space, and an additional terrace, making it attractive for tenants seeking comfortable living arrangements. The second-floor apartment mirrors these features with two bedrooms, a living room, kitchen, bathroom, storage, and a smaller terrace. All three units are currently leased, providing immediate rental income that underpins the property's investment appeal. Notably, the properties have combined energy performance certificates with labels D and F, and while the electrical installation certificate does not meet current standards, this presents opportunities for future upgrades. Located in the vibrant center of Aarschot, this property benefits from excellent accessibility and proximity to essential amenities. The area boasts shops, restaurants, schools, and public transport links that offer seamless commuting options within Aarschot and to neighboring cities such as Leuven, Diest, and Brussels. The central positioning ensures high tenant demand and a stable occupancy rate, making this investment an attractive choice for those looking to capitalize on Aarschot's dynamic urban environment. With immediate availability and no ongoing building restrictions, this property stands out as a prime candidate for expansion or renovation projects aimed at increasing its rental yield and overall value. Whether you are an experienced investor or looking to establish a solid real estate portfolio in Belgium, this opportunity warrants your attention—contact us today to explore how this property can fit into your strategic plans. Want to know more?

Bathim is delighted to present an exceptional real estate project in the heart of charming Ramillies, in Walloon Brabant. Nestled in a peaceful cul-de-sac, less than 500 metres from shops and amenities and close to major roads, this former farmhouse with its grain workshop benefits from an approved permit for conversion into nine modern homes combining rural charm and contemporary comfort. The property includes two beautiful duplex apartments: – No. 1 (ground and first floor) offers 2 bedrooms, 2 shower rooms, a separate toilet, a bright living area, two private outdoor spaces, direct access to the shared courtyard and vegetable garden, and two private parking spaces. – No. 2 (first and second floor) features 3 bedrooms, 2 shower rooms, a separate toilet, and a spacious, light-filled living room opening onto a lovely southwest-facing terrace. Each unit has its own cellar, bike storage and waste area. A peaceful rural setting, a serene atmosphere, and a project with strong value-added and investment potential. For more information or to arrange a visit, please contact Jérôme – ### – ### Want to know more?

Discover an exceptional investment opportunity situated in the heart of Leuven at Mechelsestraat 46. This historic property, built in 1850, presents a prime location that cannot be matched, being directly in the bustling shopping street of Leuven’s city center. The property comprises multiple rental units, all currently leased and in good condition, making it an ideal choice for investors seeking a lucrative addition to their portfolio. The building boasts a distinctive wide façade with two prominent building frontages and features a ground-floor retail space of approximately 36m² complete with a cellar, providing versatile commercial potential. Above the retail space, on the first floor, is a residential apartment of around 37m², while the second floor houses a duplex apartment of approximately 62m² with one bedroom. Both residential units are well-maintained and benefit from double glazing, contributing to energy efficiency. With a total surface area and layout designed to attract tenants or future occupants, this property combines historical charm with practical functionality. Location-wise, the property enjoys an unbeatable position within Leuven’s vibrant city center, close to key landmarks such as the Vismarkt and Grote Markt, placing residents and tenants in the midst of Leuven’s lively cultural and social environment. The neighborhood benefits from excellent accessibility and proximity to various amenities, supporting a dynamic urban lifestyle. The building is part of a designated woongebied with cultural value, emphasizing its importance within Leuven’s architectural heritage. Energy-wise, the property has an EPC label F for the commercial space and D and F labels for the residential units, with heating via accumulation systems and double-glazed windows enhancing overall energy performance. The property’s total ground area measures approximately 43m², with two exposed facades and a width of 9 meters, adding character and street presence. Priced at €725,000, this investment property offers significant potential within Leuven’s thriving real estate market. The asking price reflects its strategically advantageous location, historical significance, and diverse rental opportunities. The property is connected to essential utilities such as water and electricity, with certificates available for electrical installations and energy consumption. Whether you are an experienced investor or looking to expand your portfolio in one of Belgium’s most attractive university cities, this property invites your interest. For further information or to arrange a visit, please contact us directly—this opportunity is ready for discerning investors to seize. Don’t miss your chance to acquire a distinguished piece of Leuven’s urban fabric with excellent rental prospects and a prominent location that guarantees visibility and accessibility. Want to know more?

Discover a fantastic investment opportunity in the vibrant city of Leuven with this fully renovated property located at Diestsevest 117. Priced at €210,000, this property offers a compelling mix of functional spaces and attractive features tailored to meet the needs of students and tenants alike. The site boasts a rich history, having previously served as the residence of the Montfortian Fathers, and has now been revitalized into a modern complex with fully furnished rooms and studios designed for comfort and convenience. The building comprises various types of accommodations, including furnished student rooms with private bathrooms ranging from 15 to 24 square meters, furnished studios between 27 and 30 square meters, and additional furnished SWO rooms measuring approximately 12 to 14 square meters. These spaces are thoughtfully arranged to maximize comfort, functionality, and privacy, making it an appealing choice for both student housing and rental investments. The communal areas within the building are equally impressive, featuring spacious kitchens with dining areas, relaxing lounges, and a garden that fosters a sense of community and outdoor enjoyment. Bicycle storage is also available, providing practical amenities for tenants. The property benefits from modern energy standards, including double-glazed windows, gas heating, and a certified electrical installation compliant with current regulations. The building’s exterior displays a well-maintained facade across three walls, situated on the first floor of a two-story structure within a residential area designated for living purposes. The property is ready for immediate use by its new owners, with a planned delivery date of November 15, 2025, and is being sold without VAT under registration rights. Leuven’s dynamic environment and excellent infrastructure make this property an ideal addition to any real estate portfolio. Its strategic location near transportation hubs ensures ease of access, while the surrounding residential zone offers a peaceful yet lively atmosphere. Whether you are looking to expand your portfolio with a high-yield rental property or seeking a stable investment in one of Belgium’s most thriving university cities, this opportunity should not be missed. For further details or to schedule a visit, interested buyers can contact the agent directly via email or phone. Take the chance to secure this versatile property and benefit from Leuven’s ongoing growth and popularity as an educational hub. Want to know more?

Right in the historical center of Leuven, located in one of the oldest and nicest streets, we are honored to offer for sale this to renovate yield property consisting of 3 licensed entities. This solid house from the 19th century with a ground surface of 103 m² has a useful living space of no less than 253 m² and comprises on the ground floor a first licensed entity consisting of a living room with dining area, a kitchen, bedroom, bathroom and cozy city coo. The mezzanine floor has a laundry room, a separate toilet and a bathroom. The second floor has a triplex room and a licensed entity consisting of a sleeping and living area and a kitchen with dining area. Furthermore, the second floor also includes 2 full-fledged rooms. Higher up on the third floor and also the highest floor, there is a third licensed entity consisting of a spacious living room, a kitchen with bathroom and a mezzanine. Last but not least, there is a practical cellar in this property. With the necessary renovation works, you can transform this multifunctional property consisting of 3 licensed entities into a stable real estate investment with upward potential In short, this small and characterful yielding property with a stately facade in the middle of the historic center is definitely worth a visit. A true godsend. Want to know more?

Discover a unique investment opportunity in the heart of Leuven with this versatile property located at Tiensestraat 200. Priced at €450,000, this property is an exceptional blend of commercial and residential spaces, offering significant potential for investors or entrepreneurs seeking a prominent address within the city. The property benefits from a strategic location on the corner of Tiensestraat and Windmolenstraat, a bustling area well-known for its vibrant atmosphere and high foot traffic, making it an ideal setting for retail, office, or mixed-use purposes. The property comprises a retail space of approximately 47 square meters with three large display windows that flood the interior with natural light. This space is equipped with modern climate control via an air-to-air heat pump, ensuring comfort throughout the year. Behind the retail area is a renovated apartment that currently functions as office space, featuring a living area, an equipped kitchen, and one to two bedrooms that can be adapted to various needs. The apartment also includes a separate toilet and bathroom, with all necessary connections in place but awaiting final finishing. Additional storage is available in the form of cellars totaling around 62 square meters, including a 15-square-meter storage room. The entire property benefits from a total usable floor area of approximately 176 square meters, as indicated by the EPC, which classifies the energy efficiency as label C. Heating is provided by a modern, condensing gas boiler installed in 2023, ensuring efficient energy use. Leuven's vibrant urban environment offers numerous benefits for residents and visitors alike, with an active city center, excellent amenities, and easy access to public transportation. The property's zoning as a residential area (Woongebied) further enhances its appeal, allowing for diverse development possibilities. Its structural features—double-glazed windows and recent upgrades—secure its suitability for various uses. Whether for continued commercial activity or potential conversion into residential units, this property presents a compelling investment in Leuven's dynamic real estate market. For interested parties, a non-binding appointment can be arranged by contacting us at ### or via email at ### . Don’t miss this opportunity to own a prime piece of Leuven’s real estate landscape—reach out today for more information or to schedule a viewing. Want to know more?