House for sale with 2 facades - Ardenne (Region) (page 6)

Immeuble commercial idéalement sis au cœur de la ville de Beauraing. Celui-ci comprend une surface aménagée de 150m² repartie sur 4 niveaux ! Actuellement, exploité à titre Horeca, ce bien se présente en bon état et offre de nombreuses possibilités ! A découvrir absolument ! COMPOSITION : Sous-sol : Deux caves et sanitaires. Rez-de-chaussée : Surface commerciale de 37m². 1ier Etage : Espace de 37m² (act aménagé en cuisine + arrière cuisine). 2ième Etage : Pièce de séjour et salle de bains. Extérieur : 1 Chambre (act. séparée en 2 petites ch.). Want to know more?

Découvrez cette jolie maison à Marloie, idéalement située à proximité des commodités et de la gare. Avec ses atouts uniques et son emplacement de choix, cette propriété saura vous séduire. Sur un vaste terrain de 729 m², cette maison spacieuse vous offre des espaces de vie idéaux. À l'intérieur, vous trouverez trois chambres confortables, parfaites pour accueillir votre famille ou vos invités. De plus, un bureau vous offre l'espace idéal pour travailler depuis chez vous, en toute tranquillité. La toute nouvelle salle de bain ajoute une touche de modernité à cette charmante demeure, tandis que l'installation électrique conforme garantit votre sécurité et votre confort au quotidien. Envie d'espace supplémentaire ? Le grenier aménageable de près de 40 m² offre un potentiel illimité pour créer la pièce de vos rêves, que ce soit une chambre supplémentaire, un espace de loisirs ou un bureau. Et ce n'est pas tout ! Avec un entrepôt de 90 m² au sol, vous disposerez de l'espace nécessaire pour entreposer vos biens en toute simplicité. Ne laissez pas passer cette occasion unique de devenir propriétaire d'une résidence bénéficiant de nombreux atouts à Marloie. PRIX: 249.000€ (sous réserve d'acceptation des propriétaires) Want to know more?

Cette imposante bâtisse est située sur la place du village, non loin du parvis de l'église. Un de ses atouts : elle bénéficie d'un jardin orienté plein sud et accessible également par une rue parallèle ! Rez-de-chaussée : hall d'entrée, cuisine avec accès au jardin, séjour spacieux avec cheminée ouverte et bar ancien, salle de douche, wc, grand garage, remise. Premier étage : hall de nuit, 4 belles chambres, salle de bain. Deuxième étage : hall spacieux et 9 pièces à rénover (voir photos 25 à 29). En sous-sol : cave. Le jardin, accessible par une rue parallèle et situé en zone d'habitat à caractère rural au plan de secteur, pourrait accueillir (moyennant autorisation urbanistique) une petite construction telle qu'un garage ou un petit entrepôt. Want to know more?

In Rochefort, discover this remarkable stone row house, completely renovated with a sense of detail and creativity that immediately sets it apart. Its contemporary style, thought through right down to the finishing touches, creates a unique ambience where modern materials - including glass tiles and light panels - blend perfectly with the charm of the original building. This is a rare property, ready to move into with no work required. The ground floor features a pleasant living room extended by a fully-equipped open-plan kitchen; there's plenty of storage space, and direct access to the rear courtyard, where you'll also find a practical shed. On the 1st floor, you'll find a cosy living room and a well-appointed shower room. The 2nd level features 2 good-sized bedrooms. The 3rd floor reveals a vast bedroom of over 20 m², ideal as a multi-purpose space. The overall quality of the property is confirmed by its technical features: compliant electricity, town gas central heating (new boiler), tiled cellar, electrically-equipped shed and very good levels of insulation with an EPB C rating. The property is currently rented for 900 euros per month. The location is a major asset: in the immediate vicinity of schools, shops and transport, this house is perfectly suited to a comfortable daily life even without a car. An exceptional opportunity for those looking for a modern, well-kept home in a great location! Want to know more?

Venez découvrir cette charmante maison en pierre située dans le centre d'Houffalize sur une parcelle d'environ 3 ares. Elle se compose au rez-de-chaussée d'un hall d'entrée, d'un salon, d'une salle à manger, d'une cuisine, d'un garage et d'une annexe. Le premier étage se compose d'un hall de nuit, de deux chambres, d'une salle de bain et d'un WC indépendant. Petite cave avec la chaudière au mazout. PEB classe F. Châssis en PVC double vitrage. Want to know more?

Charmante habitation idéalement située à deux pas du centre de Beauraing et de l’ensemble des facilités : commerces, écoles, transports en commun, etc. La maison a déjà fait l’objet de plusieurs améliorations, notamment une installation électrique conforme et des châssis PVC triple vitrage. Quelques travaux de modernisation resteront toutefois à prévoir afin d’en exploiter pleinement le potentiel et d’y apporter tout le confort contemporain. Le bien bénéficie également d’un agréable jardin avec accès par l’arrière ainsi que de facilités de stationnement à proximité. Une belle opportunité, idéale tant pour un premier achat que pour un investissement immobilier. FAIRE OFFRE A PARTIR DE 130.000€ Cette annonce ne constitue pas une offre, mais seulement un appel à négociation lancé aux candidats acquéreurs. COMPOSITION : Rez-de-chaussée : Salle à manger avec cuisine, salle de douche, véranda et chaufferie. 1ier Etage : 3 Chambres en enfilade. 2ième Etage : Grenier facilement aménageable. Extérieur : Terrasse et jardin clôturé. Want to know more?

Discover this charming residence for sale located at Rue de la Faloise 16 in the picturesque town of Neufchâteau. Priced at €195,000, this property presents a wonderful opportunity for buyers seeking a comfortable and practical home in a peaceful setting. Although currently under option, it offers an excellent foundation for future owners to personalize and adapt to their needs. The residence features a well-balanced layout with three bedrooms and one bathroom, providing ample space for families or individuals looking for a cozy and functional living environment. With a total indoor area spread across two floors and a total plot of 228 m², this property combines convenience and efficiency. Built with practicality in mind, this home is equipped with oil heating (Mazout), ensuring reliable warmth during the colder months. The interior includes two toilets and a complete bathroom, all designed to accommodate daily living comfortably. The property does not feature a lift, which is typical for residences of this type and size in the area. It benefits from good natural light exposure, with the front façade oriented northwest, and features two façades that enhance its aesthetic appeal and functionality. The building has been maintained to a standard that aligns with normal market expectations, with an energy consumption profile of 307 kWh/m² per year, as indicated by its EPC certificate. Additionally, the electrical installation comes with a valid certificate, ensuring safety and compliance. Situated in Neufchâteau, an area known for its tranquil atmosphere and natural beauty, this property offers a quiet lifestyle while remaining accessible to local amenities and essential services. The town’s infrastructure provides convenient water connections and other basic utilities. Despite the absence of a garden or terrace, the sizeable plot allows potential for future expansions or landscaping enhancements if desired. Its location makes it ideal for those seeking a peaceful residence in the Belgian countryside, with the added reassurance of a well-maintained property with no overstromingsrisico (flood risk). Contact us today to learn more or arrange a viewing of this promising property in Neufchâteau. Want to know more?

Discover this charming residence for sale in the picturesque village of Humain, offering a perfect blend of comfort and practicality. Priced at €212,500, this well-maintained home presents an excellent opportunity for first-time buyers or investors alike. The property has been renovated in 2018, ensuring modern standards and comfort. It features a total living area of 89 m², with a spacious living room of 34 m² and two bedrooms, making it suitable for a variety of lifestyles. The house is equipped with one bathroom, two toilets, and electric heating, providing efficient comfort throughout the year. The property includes a garage, adding convenience for vehicle storage, and the outdoor space boasts a garden oriented towards the southeast, ideal for relaxing or entertaining. Located in Humain, the residence benefits from a serene village setting while remaining accessible to local amenities. The house is situated on a plot of 108 m² and features a façade with southeastern orientation, which fills the interior with natural light. Its layout across three levels maximizes space and functionality, with a welcoming entrance hall on the ground floor leading to the garage. The first floor hosts a large living area with an open kitchen that provides access to the garden—perfect for enjoying outdoor meals or gardening activities. The second floor comprises a hallway, two bedrooms, and a bathroom, creating a comfortable private space. The property is connected to water services and has been certified for electrical safety, including an energy performance certificate (EPC) with a primary energy consumption of 402 kWh/m²/year. It is not situated within an overrun or flood-prone area, ensuring peace of mind for future occupants. This residence’s peaceful village environment offers an idyllic setting for those seeking tranquility and nature, while still having easy access to local infrastructure. The house’s modern renovations and thoughtful layout make it an attractive choice for a new home or investment property. With its combination of practicality and charm, this real estate opportunity in Humain is not to be missed. Contact us today at ### or call ### to arrange a viewing or request further information. Take advantage of this exceptional offer and make this delightful house your new address! Want to know more?

Discover this charming residence located in the peaceful village of Humain, a wonderful opportunity for both first-time buyers and investors alike. Priced at €213,500, this well-maintained home combines modern renovations with functional living spaces, offering an attractive package for those seeking comfort and practicality. Built over three floors, this property boasts a total living area of 89 m², with a 34 m² spacious living room that provides a bright and welcoming atmosphere. The house features two bedrooms, making it ideal for small families or couples looking for additional space. The kitchen is fully equipped, facilitating everyday life, while the bathroom includes modern amenities. The property also benefits from a separate WC, electric heating, and a certified electrical installation, ensuring safety and efficiency. The house’s exterior is equally appealing, with a garden oriented southeast, perfect for enjoying sunshine throughout the day. The property is situated on a 109 m² plot of land, which includes a garage for one vehicle, offering convenient parking options. The house’s architectural design comprises two facades and two levels, with additional features such as water connection and compliance with energy standards evident in the EPC rating of 398 kWh/m²/year. The property's excellent condition is further confirmed by its recent electrical certification and the absence of flood risk, making it a secure choice for prospective buyers. Located in Humain, this residence enjoys all the benefits of a tranquil village setting while remaining accessible to local amenities. Its proximity to essential services and the natural beauty of the surrounding environment make it an attractive place to live. Whether you are looking to settle down or seeking an investment property with rental income potential—currently estimated at €872 per month—this home presents a compelling option. Don’t miss out on this opportunity; contact us today to arrange a viewing or for more detailed information. Our team is ready to assist you in making this property your new home. Want to know more?

Discover this charming residence for sale in the idyllic village of Humain, an excellent opportunity for those seeking a comfortable and well-maintained home in a peaceful setting. Priced at €212,500, this property offers a combination of modern updates and practical features, making it an attractive choice for first-time buyers or investors alike. The house has been thoughtfully renovated in 2018, ensuring modern comfort and reliability, with a compliance certificate for the electrical installation and an EPC rating of 477 kWh/m²/year, valid until February 16, 2034. Its convenient layout, bright living spaces, and outdoor garden with southeast orientation make this property especially appealing. The residence spans three floors over a total living area of 89 m². On the ground floor, you will find a spacious entrance hall leading to a large garage, providing ample storage or parking space for your vehicle. Ascending to the first floor, there's a generous 35 m² living room with a fully equipped kitchen that opens directly onto a south-east facing garden—an ideal outdoor area for relaxing or entertaining guests. The second floor features a hall of night, two bedrooms, and a bathroom, offering comfortable accommodation for family or visitors. The property also includes two toilets, electric heating, and water connection, ensuring all essential amenities are covered. Located at Rue d'Aye 4 A in Humain, this house benefits from its quiet yet accessible setting. The village environment ensures tranquility while still providing necessary conveniences. The house is not situated in a flood-prone area, adding to its appeal as a safe and secure investment. With a total ground surface of 130 m² and a single garage, this property combines practicality with comfort. If you are interested in this attractive residence, contact us today to arrange a visit or obtain further information. This is a rare opportunity to acquire a renovated home in the heart of Humain at a competitive price—don't miss out! Want to know more?

This charming residence is located in the desirable area of Spa, specifically in the peaceful neighborhood of Nivezé. Situated at Promenade d'Orléans 35, the property offers a tranquil setting while remaining conveniently accessible. The house sits on a spacious 1,870 m² plot of land, featuring a well-maintained garden and a south-west facing terrace of approximately 30 m², ideal for outdoor relaxation and gatherings. The interior of the home comprises 122 m² of living space spread over two floors. On the ground level, you will find an open and inviting living room, a fully equipped kitchen with modern appliances including a vitro cooktop, oven, microwave, dishwasher, and refrigerator, as well as a garage with an adjoining laundry area and WC. The upper floors include three bedrooms, a bathroom with a bathtub, and additional storage space such as a dressing room and attic. The property benefits from double glazing and central heating fueled by oil, ensuring comfort throughout the year. Externally, the property features a large, flat garden and a private terrace suitable for outdoor entertaining. The garage provides secure parking for one vehicle. The residence also has access to water connections and is connected to sewage infrastructure, with the potential for future improvements. Its energy performance is rated as EPC E, with a valid certificate until June 2035. This property combines comfort, practicality, and a quiet yet accessible location in Spa. Want to know more?

Nestled in the charming town of Houffalize, this inviting residence at Bois des Moines 20 offers a harmonious blend of comfort and convenience. Priced at 180,000 €, the property spans three floors and is ideally situated near the town center, offering easy access to local amenities. The ground floor welcomes you with an entrance hall and a practical laundry room, ensuring functionality. The first floor boasts a spacious living area that seamlessly connects to a fully equipped kitchen, alongside a shower room and a separate toilet for added comfort. The second floor presents two well-proportioned bedrooms, providing ample space for relaxation. A highlight of this home is its impressive 30 m² terrace, perfect for enjoying outdoor activities or hosting gatherings. This terrace also offers access to the garden, making it an ideal spot for those who appreciate nature and tranquility. The property is enhanced by modern features such as double-glazed PVC frames and electric heating through accumulators, while hot water is efficiently supplied by a thermodynamic boiler. Constructed with artificial slate roofing, the house ensures durability and aesthetic appeal. The individual meters for electricity and water offer convenience and control over utility expenses. Additionally, buyers may benefit from a reduced registration fee of 3% upon meeting certain conditions. With an EPC rating of 312 kWh/m²/year and a compliant electrical installation certificate, this property guarantees peace of mind in terms of energy efficiency and safety. For more details or to arrange a visit, please contact ### Want to know more?

L’agence SKYIMMO vous propose cette agréable maison entièrement rénovée en 2022, située au calme dans une rue sans issue à Spa, tout en restant à proximité immédiate de toutes les commodités (magasins, centre de Spa, écoles, transports et axes routiers). Ce bien offre un cadre de vie paisible et confortable, idéal pour un couple avec un enfant ou comme investissement locatif, en location longue ou courte durée. La maison se compose comme suit : Rez-de-chaussée Espace de vie ouvert comprenant le salon, la salle à manger et la cuisine pour une superficie totale de 35 m², offrant un volume lumineux et convivial. 1er étage Hall de nuit desservant deux chambres de 12 m² et 9 m², ainsi qu’une salle de bains avec WC. Sous-sol Cave pratique pour le rangement. Aspects techniques Maison entièrement rénovée en 2022, électricité conforme, très bonne isolation, chauffage central au gaz de ville, châssis PVC double vitrage. Porte d’entrée rustique vintage conservée pour préserver le charme de la maison, entièrement rénovée et équipée de double vitrage. Cette maison se distingue par son calme, sa rénovation récente et sa configuration fonctionnelle, offrant un excellent potentiel tant pour une occupation personnelle que pour un investissement locatif à Spa. PEB : C - E. spec. 252 kWh/m2.an - E. totale 31 635 kWh/an - Numéro 20260121000426 📞 Infos & visites : ### 📧 ### 🌐 ### GROUP SKYIMMO – Votre partenaire de confiance dans l’immobilier. Want to know more?

Infos & Visits: Benoit - ### - ### | Exceptional location on the Croisette in the heart of the city center, facing the Meuse, By the Way offers this magnificent building with a characterful façade of approx. 245m² spread over 4 levels with courtyard/garden. Sold as a closed shell (CASCO), the property has already undergone numerous renovation works: complete façade restoration, new roof, new window frames. Offered with a full architectural project for a 9-room hotel layout, for which an urban planning permit was issued by the City of Dinant in 2013, the building is composed as follows: A first space of ± 60 m² on the ground floor with direct access to the Croisette, perfect for creating a small independent shop or studio. On the 1st floor, a spacious and bright area of ± 80 m² with a view of the Meuse and garden at the back. ± 70 m² area on the 2nd floor. 3rd floor: superb attic space of ± 70 m², with original exposed roof structure. A rare and exclusive opportunity in the heart of Dinant, offering a blank canvas to be fitted out according to your tastes and plans. Suitable for various real estate projects: single-family home, tourist accommodation, hotel operation, or HORECA establishment. | All info via the following link: ### | Infos & Visits: Benoit - ### - ### Want to know more?

Discover a unique investment opportunity with this charming stone house located in the desirable area of Winenne. Priced at €29,000, this property presents an excellent chance for renovation enthusiasts or investors seeking to create a personalized home or renovation project. Situated on a 141 m² plot, the house features two façades and includes two bedrooms, making it a versatile space for various creative transformations. Its compact yet functional layout allows for numerous possibilities, and the property’s existing structure provides a solid foundation for customization. This residence has been affected by a fire, and as such, it requires complete renovation. The house is sold in its current condition, without an electrical report or energy performance certificate (PEB). Despite these circumstances, the property’s potential is considerable, thanks to its small garden that is well oriented, offering opportunities for outdoor enjoyment and landscaping. The house’s location in Winenne ensures a tranquil setting, while still being accessible for daily necessities. The fact that the property is currently not rented and available at the time of signing the deed simplifies the purchase process for interested buyers. Located at Rue des Volontaires de Guerre 4 in Winenne, this property is offered by a notary office in Beauraing, with all inquiries and visits arranged through the study of Notary Laurent. For those looking to invest in a project with substantial potential at an affordable price, this property provides the perfect starting point. Whether you are a seasoned renovator or a first-time buyer eager to craft your own home, this residence in Winenne invites you to explore its possibilities and make an offer to realize its full potential. Contact the notary today to arrange a viewing and take the first step toward transforming this promising property into your new home or investment. Want to know more?

Au cœur de Saint-Hubert, ville emblématique de l’Ardenne belge, ce bâtiment de caractère est actuellement exploité en gîte plein de charme. Alliant authenticité et confort, il séduit par ses espaces conviviaux et son atmosphère chaleureuse, idéale pour accueillir les visiteurs en quête de nature et de tranquillité. Saint-Hubert, capitale européenne de la chasse et renommée pour sa basilique, ses forêts majestueuses et ses nombreux sentiers de randonnée et VTT, attire une clientèle touristique tout au long de l’année. Les commerces, restaurants et services de la ville sont accessibles à pied, offrant un cadre pratique et vivant. Le stationnement est simple et pratique grâce à un garage privatif situé dans l’immeuble, un atout rare pour un bien en centre-ville. Ce bien constitue une opportunité rare, que ce soit pour poursuivre l’exploitation en gîte ou pour développer un projet touristique ou résidentiel (selon autorisations). Son emplacement central, combiné à l’attractivité touristique de la région, en fait un investissement idéal pour les amateurs de l’Ardenne ou les porteurs de projet. Venez découvrir un lieu où charme, authenticité et potentiel se rencontrent, au cœur d’une des villes les plus prisées de la région. Want to know more?

Charming village house located in Beauraing, offering a pleasant and generous living environment with approx. 259 m² of living space on 2 levels and a usable attic. From the moment you enter, the character of the old house blends with modern comforts: a vast, luminous living room with fireplace, a dining room opening onto a contemporary red and checkerboard kitchen, and large windows that flood the rooms with natural light.4 generous bedrooms and a functional bathroom complete the private space on the first floor; some rooms feature exposed beams and period details that add warmth and character. The spaciousness of the house is further enhanced by a spacious basement and attic offering a host of conversion possibilities to suit your projects. Outside, the 1,200 m² garden invites you to relax and enjoy outdoor activities: lawn areas, vegetable garden, orchard and terraced dining areas, as well as an outbuilding and a good-sized garage to optimize your daily life. The roof is fitted with solar panels for modern comfort and energy savings. Ideal for a family looking for space, potential and a peaceful rural setting, yet close to shops, schools and main roads. This house of character offers a true art of living, between heritage and modernity, ready to welcome your desires. Want to know more?

Discover this beautifully renovated residence located at rue des remparts 74 in Bastogne, offering an exceptional opportunity for both private occupancy and investment. Priced at €283,000, this charming house combines modern comfort with a strategic location just steps from the hyper-centre of Bastogne and its many amenities. The property benefits from recent extensive renovations, including a new roof, façade rendering, double-glazed window installations, and a complete interior overhaul, ensuring a high standard of comfort and compliance with current standards. This well-maintained home presents approximately 130 m² of total indoor space, with 100 m² of living area that is bright and functional, perfectly suited to meet contemporary living needs. The property features three generously proportioned bedrooms, offering ample space for families or individuals seeking extra room. The fully equipped kitchen spans 15 m², providing a practical and modern culinary space, while the interior layout has been carefully designed to maximize usability and comfort. The house is currently leased at €1,100 per month, yielding an annual return of approximately 3.9%, which makes it an attractive and stable investment in a sought-after sector. The energy performance certificate (EPC) indicates a primary energy consumption of 193 kWh/m²/year, reflecting the property's energy profile and providing transparency for prospective buyers or tenants. With a total ground area of 96 m² and two façades, this residence combines convenient outdoor space with urban accessibility. Bastogne itself is renowned for its rich history, vibrant community, and strategic location within Belgium. This property’s proximity to the hyper-centre means residents can enjoy easy access to shops, services, and cultural attractions. The neighborhood benefits from a calm yet lively atmosphere, ideal for those seeking the balance between tranquility and convenience. The property’s availability is immediate upon signing of the deed, and it is sold without VAT. For investors or families looking for a fully renovated home in Bastogne with excellent rental potential or a comfortable private residence, this offer warrants serious consideration. To learn more or to schedule a viewing, please contact us at your earliest convenience. Want to know more?

Introducing a charming opportunity to acquire a residence in the picturesque town of Marche-en-Famenne, located specifically at Rue des Montenées 5. Priced at €190,000, this property offers an excellent blend of potential and character, making it an attractive choice for those seeking a home with ample space and outdoor amenities. Situated in a tranquil setting yet close to essential services and transportation links, this home provides a comfortable lifestyle within easy reach of local shops, including a Spar, bakery, butcher, and pharmacy, as well as public transport options such as the Marloie train station and bus stops. This property features approximately 150 square meters of living space spread over three levels, offering a versatile layout that can be customized to suit individual tastes and needs. The ground floor includes an entrance hall, a welcoming living room, an open-plan kitchen connected to the dining area, and another lounge space. Also on this level are a bathroom with both shower and bathtub, a laundry room, and a garage capable of accommodating one vehicle. The first floor comprises three bedrooms measuring 17.5 m², 18 m², and 11 m² respectively, along with a central hallway that connects these rooms. Upstairs, the attic has been converted into a fourth bedroom of 25 m², providing additional private space for family or guests. A small cellar adds storage capacity beneath the house, while outside, residents can enjoy a terrace of about 15 m² overlooking a gently sloping garden oriented toward the west, perfect for outdoor entertaining or gardening enthusiasts. The exterior features include a garden spanning approximately 200 m², a terrace, and parking facilities with two outdoor parking spaces plus the garage inside. The property sits on a total land area of 463 m² with a frontage of 12 meters, ensuring ample outdoor space and privacy. Built in 1920 and in need of renovation, the house also boasts double-glazed windows for improved insulation and is heated by wood, contributing to its rustic charm and energy profile. The property is currently unoccupied and available immediately upon completion of renovations. Its location in Marche-en-Famenne offers the tranquility of rural life combined with easy access to urban conveniences. This is an excellent opportunity for buyers looking to invest in a substantial home with significant renovation potential in a desirable Belgian town. For more information or to schedule a viewing, please contact us directly. Want to know more?

Juliet immo presents this former joinery for renovation located in Mellier, offering great potential for professionals or investors. This property offers 360 m² of floor space and 350 m² of attic space, and sits on a generous 898 m² plot. There are considerable possibilities for reconfiguration, whether for commercial, craft or storage activities. The interior reveals a large workspace that can accommodate a liberal profession or a storage area for vehicles. Not all machines and supplies on site are available for sale with this property. Upstairs, the first attic represents a very attractive space, with its wooden framework and high ceilings, offering perfect space for future apartments, subject to town planning regulations. The property also features a second small attic for storage, consisting of an old stone oven. The property also includes a private garage, offering convenient access for parking and storage. Outside, the property has lush green grounds offering a peaceful living environment. This former joinery represents an exceptional opportunity to transform and adapt these vast spaces to your specific needs. Contact us now at ### . All information provided by the agency is for information purposes only and is not contractual. It does not engage the responsibility of the agency and does not exempt future buyers from carrying out their own research. Want to know more?