À vendre à Boiseilles, dans un quartier résidentiel calme et verdoyant, cette maison entièrement rénovée avec soin est implantée sur une parcelle de 7 ares 86 centiares. Le bien offre un cadre de vie agréable, alliant confort moderne. Il se compose de deux chambres, d’un vaste jardin arboré et aménagé, d’une terrasse conviviale ainsi que d’un abri de jardin pratique.Le rez-de-chaussée comprend un hall d’entrée accueillant, une cuisine super équipée avec un coin salle à manger, ainsi qu’un salon chaleureux équipé d’un poêle à bois. À l’étage, vous découvrirez une chambre lumineuse, une salle de bain spacieuse avec baignoire, douche ainsi qu’un WC séparé. À l’extérieur, le jardin constitue un véritable espace de détente, parfaitement entretenu. D’un point de vue technique, la maison bénéficie d’un certificat PEB de catégorie C, de châssis en PVC double vitrage, d’un système de chauffage par le sol alimenté par une chaudière à pellets, ainsi que d’une installation électrique conforme aux normes en vigueur. Faire offre à partir de 245.000 € (sous réserve d’acceptation des propriétaires). Pour plus d’informations ou pour organiser une visite, n’hésitez pas à contacter l’agence. Want to know more?
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Vos Agences Condrogest Dinant vous présente au centre du charmant village d’Yvoir cette maison, intérieurement entièrement rénovée récemment, qui vous séduira par son style moderne, épuré et sa luminosité exceptionnelle. La rénovation de qualité a mis l’accent sur l’isolation et la performance énergétique, garantissant un habitat agréable et économique. L’un des atouts majeurs de la maison est sa superbe terrasse de 60 m² orientée plein sud, idéale pour profiter du soleil toute la journée, recevoir des invités ou se détendre en toute tranquillité. La maison dispose également d’un spacieux garage ainsi que de remises pratiques offrant de nombreux espaces de rangement, ou la possibilité de transformation pour la création d'un petit logement locatif. Son emplacement est particulièrement recherché : en plein centre du village, à proximité immédiate des commerces de proximité, écoles et services, et à seulement quelques minutes de l’hôpital de Mont-Godinne. Proche de la gare, offrant une excellente accessibilité pour vos déplacements vers Dinant - Namur et Bruxelles. Composition: - Rez-de-chaussée: hall d'entrée, 2 chambres et salle de bain ; - Etage: hall de jour, salon, salle à manger, cuisine super équipée, buanderie, chambre et salle de douche privative. Remarques: garage de 35m² (parfait pour y créer un espace professionnel) - 2 remises - chaufferie - châssis PVC double vitrage - chauffage central mazout. Faire offre à partir de 349.000€ Want to know more?
Vos Agences Condrogest Dinant vous propose cet immeuble unique et se trouvant en bord de Meuse. A proximité immédiate de la frontière française, cet immeuble est un ancien hôtel. Construit sur trois niveaux, il offre de beaux volumes et de multiples possibilités d’aménagement en maison unifamiliale comprenant 4 à 6 chambres, mais également, sous réserve d’accord communal, en plusieurs unités de logement. L’un des grands atouts de la propriété est sa vaste terrasse extérieure de 95m², parfaitement exposée, ensoleillée et idéale pour profiter de la vue dégagée et du calme environnant. Le bien nécessite d’importants travaux de rénovation mais son style, son emplacement privilégié et son potentiel en font une belle opportunité pour un projet résidentiel ou mixte. Composition: - Rez-de-chaussée: Salon, salle à manger, 1 chambre, vaste terrasse de 95m² ; - 1er étage: hall de nuit, 4 chambres, dressing ; - 2e étage: 4 greniers aménageable de 86m² au total ; - Sous-sol: 4 caves de 76m² au total. Want to know more?
Vos Agences Condrogest Dinant vous propose ce ravissant bungalow, situé sur les hauteurs d'Hastière, dans le domaine Les Gaux. L'habitation conviendra parfaitement pour une seconde résidence et/ou résidence principale (domiciliation acceptée, condition à la commune) mais aussi être à usage d'un logement touristique (sous réserve d'accord de la commune). Très bonne situation, tant pour son environnement que pour sa proximité avec les activités touristiques, nombreuses dans la région: randonnées pédestres ou à vélo le long de la Meuse, sports nautiques, balades en bateau, sites naturels et patrimoniaux à visiter… Une destination idéale pour les amoureux de la nature et du tourisme vert. Composition: - Rez-de-chaussée: pièce à vivre avec coin cuisine, 1 chambre, salle de bain ; - Etage: grande chambre en mezzanine. Remarques: chauffage avec feu ouvert - châssis PVC double vitrage - chauffe-eau électrique - terrasse de 21 m² - emplacement de parking privatif. Want to know more?
Discover the exceptional opportunity to acquire a brand-new, energy-efficient residence in the tranquil setting of Bastogne, located at Lutremange 3 E. Priced at €395,000, this contemporary property exemplifies modern comfort and sustainability, boasting an impressive build with high-quality materials and innovative features. Built in 2025 and currently not rented, this home is ideal for discerning buyers seeking a spacious, functional living space in a peaceful environment. With a total living area of approximately 210 square meters spread over a single floor and set on a generous plot of 1021 m², the residence offers ample space for family life and outdoor enjoyment. The house features four well-sized bedrooms, providing comfortable accommodation for family members or guests. The interior layout includes a welcoming entrance hall, a separate toilet, and a vast, luminous living area of around 70 m² that seamlessly combines the kitchen and living spaces—an open-plan design that invites natural light and social interaction. A dedicated laundry room and boiler area enhance everyday convenience. The bathroom is thoughtfully situated to serve the bedrooms, all accessible via a central hall. The use of premium materials from Grandjean, combined with triple-glazed PVC windows and a state-of-the-art heat pump for underfloor heating, underscores the focus on energy efficiency and low running costs. Mechanical ventilation with double flux systems, rainwater harvesting, and a micro sewage treatment station further reinforce the property's commitment to sustainability. Nestled in a quiet street with no through traffic, this residence enjoys excellent exposure to sunlight, particularly with its south-facing facade that maximizes natural light and warmth. The location offers a peaceful ambiance while remaining accessible to essential services and amenities in Bastogne. The property benefits from a scenic view and a well-maintained garden that can be personalized further. With its high energy performance rating (primary energy consumption of only 44 kWh/m²/year) and compliance certificates, this home represents a rare opportunity for buyers looking for a new build with top-tier features. The sale is subject to TVA at 21%, emphasizing the property’s new construction status and first occupation. If you are interested in embracing a modern lifestyle within a sustainable and beautifully situated home in Bastogne, this property is ready to meet your needs. Contact us today to arrange a viewing or for more information about this unique opportunity at Lutremange 3 E. This is an excellent chance to invest in quality living in a serene environment—don’t miss out! Want to know more?
Venez découvrir cette maison avec permis pour démolition et reconstruction à Bièvre. Proche de toutes commodités mais sur une ruelle en retrait et sans issue, ce projet s'inscrit sur un terrain de plus de 37 ares! Le permis a été octroyé afin d'y reconstruire une maison ou gîte qui comprendra; une grande pièce de vie avec cuisine ouverte, salle à manger et un grand salon avec feu ouvert. Vous disposerez également de 3 chambres avec salle de bains, d'un dortoir avec salle de bain séparée, d'une buanderie avec chambre froide et d'une grande terrasse. Côté technique, châssis alu double vitrage, pompe à chaleur, isolation poussée sont prévus. Want to know more?
ERA BLUX is pleased to present this superb character home, ideally located in Sommerain, a peaceful village just five minutes from the center of Houffalize. With its generous volumes and bright living spaces, this property offers a warm and authentic atmosphere. You will be charmed by its impressive ceiling heights, period moldings, and beautiful solid wood flooring. The house features five bedrooms, with the possibility of adding a sixth on the ground floor. Its garden and inner courtyard provide a true haven of peace. The convertible attic offers great potential to expand the living space according to your needs. Renovation work is required to restore its full charm. There is also the possibility of acquiring a building plot of over 20 ares as an additional option. The owner reserves the right to prioritize an offer for the entire lot. 📞 Interested? Contact us now at ### for more information or to arrange a visit! Want to know more?
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OPTION Vos Agences Condrogest Ciney vous présente cette charmante maison deux chambres idéalement située en plein cœur de Ciney, à proximité de toutes les facilités (écoles, gare, commerces,...). Ce bien se trouve dans un bon état général et pourra à la fois convenir comme premier achat ou investissement. Il s'agit d'un bien rare à venir découvrir dès que possible. Composition: - Sous-sol: cave / buanderie ; - Rez-de-chaussée: séjour ouvert sur la cuisine ; - 1er étage: hall de nuit, une chambre et une salle de bain ; - 2e étage: spacieuse chambre avec coin bureau. Remarques : nouveaux châssis PVC double vitrage et chauffage via poêle à pellets Prix: 155.000€ (sous réserve d'acceptation par la propriétaire) Want to know more?
- OPTION - Maison 4 façades offrant une vue magnifique et bénéficiant d'une situation prisée au Plateau du Soleil, à moins de 5 kilomètres du centre de Durbuy. Ce bâtiment en excellent état d'entretien, construit en 2007, est situé dans un environnement calme et verdoyant, idéal pour une première ou seconde résidence. Le bien se compose comme suit : Rez-de-chaussée : hall d’entrée, chambre avec mezzanine, salle de bain, WC individuel, vaste séjour ouvert comprenant salon, salle à manger et cuisine équipée, spacieuse terrasse en partie couverte ; Rez-de-jardin : garage, débarras, hall de nuit, 2 chambres, salle de bains. Extérieurs : plusieurs places de parking et grand jardin. Equipements : chauffage central mazout, châssis bois double vitrage. Possibilité d’acquérir également le terrain à bâtir voisin d'une superficie de 23 ares 50 centiares au prix de 125.000 €. Infos et visites : ### ### - ### ### Want to know more?
Discover this charming stone-built, two-facade residence for sale in the picturesque village of Felenne. Priced at €225,000, this property offers a unique opportunity for renovation and personalization. Situated at Rue de Colivrenne 3, the house spans a total surface area of 5 ares and 40 centiares (540 m²), providing ample outdoor space that includes a garden and a garage. Its traditional stone façade exudes rustic charm, while the interior layout features a basement cellar, a ground floor with an entrance hall, a spacious living room, dining area, kitchen, laundry room, and old sanitary facilities. Additionally, there is an atelier, a dependence, and a garage on the ground level. The first floor comprises four bedrooms and a large hayloft that can be converted into additional living space or storage. The attic is also suitable for development, offering further potential to expand the living area according to your needs. This property is presented in its current condition as requiring renovation, making it ideal for those looking to craft a bespoke home tailored to their preferences. The heating system is based on an outdated fuel oil central heating system that is currently out of service, and the electrical wiring needs to be brought up to standard. The house features traditional double-glazed windows which may need replacing or upgrading as part of the renovation process. The building’s structure and layout provide numerous possibilities for customization, whether transforming it into a modern family residence or preserving its rustic charm for a countryside retreat. The total plot size of 540 m² allows for outdoor activities, gardening, or expanding the existing structures if desired. Located in Felenne, this property benefits from a tranquil setting while remaining accessible to local amenities and scenic countryside. The area is characterized by its peaceful rural environment, perfect for those seeking privacy and nature. The property is available for viewing upon appointment through the notarial office of Laurent in Beauraing. It is not currently rented and will be available upon signing of the deed. The sale excludes VAT and the cadastral income is €518. This home presents a fantastic opportunity for investors or owner-occupiers who wish to create a personalized residence in a charming Belgian village. For further details or to schedule a visit, interested buyers are encouraged to contact the notarial office directly to explore this promising project in detail. Want to know more?
Discover an exceptional opportunity in Sovet with this charming stone-built residence, offering a harmonious blend of character and potential. Priced at €295,000, this property is situated at Rue d'Estinia 6, within a tranquil village setting just 5 kilometers from Ciney. The house presents a generous layout that caters to both comfort and practicality. On the ground floor, you will find a welcoming living and dining area, a cozy sitting room, and an additional water closet, creating an inviting atmosphere for everyday living. Ascending to the first floor, the residence features three well-sized bedrooms, a dedicated office space, and a second bathroom, providing ample space for family members or guests. The property is complemented by two cellars in the basement, an attic on the second floor, and an outdoor garage, ensuring practical storage solutions and parking convenience. Outside, the estate extends to include an old barn and a hayloft, offering additional space that can be adapted to various uses or renovation projects. The location benefits from proximity to essential amenities such as primary schools, local shops, and train stations in Ciney, making it an attractive option for those seeking a peaceful rural lifestyle with easy access to urban facilities. This residence is ideal for buyers looking for a property with authentic charm and substantial renovation or extension potential. The existing structure provides a solid foundation for further development, whether to modernize the interiors or enhance the outdoor spaces. The property’s orientation toward the northwest ensures pleasant natural light exposure, while its countryside surroundings promise tranquility and privacy. The house is currently not rented and is available for immediate occupancy, making it a straightforward acquisition for discerning buyers. The technical details include an energy performance certificate with a primary energy consumption of 513 kWh/m²/year, confirming the need for potential energy efficiency upgrades. The cadastral income is set at €507, and the sale is made without VAT, offering a transparent transaction process. If you are interested in exploring this unique property in Sovet, do not hesitate to contact us for further information or to schedule a viewing. This is a rare opportunity to acquire a versatile country house with substantial space, authentic features, and excellent location benefits. Whether you are seeking a family home or a renovation project, this residence offers endless possibilities to create your ideal countryside retreat. Act now to make this charming property yours and start imagining your future in this peaceful village setting close to all essential services and scenic surroundings. Want to know more?
Discover this exceptional new-built residence located in the tranquil setting of Vencimont, offering a superb combination of modern comfort and breathtaking views. Priced at €333,000, this charming property stands out with its generous living space, picturesque surroundings, and thoughtfully designed features. Set on a spacious plot of 5.45 ares, the house benefits from an excellent orientation that maximizes natural light and provides an inviting atmosphere throughout. The property is equipped with photovoltaic panels, emphasizing energy efficiency and sustainability, and is situated in a quiet street that enhances privacy and peace of mind. The house’s impeccable condition makes it an ideal choice for buyers seeking a move-in ready home in a serene environment. The residence boasts a well-organized layout spread across multiple levels. The ground floor features an entrance hall with a guest WC, leading into a luminous and expansive living area fitted with a fully equipped kitchen. Large panoramic window doors open onto the terrace, seamlessly blending indoor comfort with outdoor enjoyment — perfect for relaxing or entertaining guests. Adjacent to the living space is the garage, providing convenient parking directly accessible from within the house. Moving upstairs, a hallway guides you to three attractive bedrooms, including a master suite complete with a dressing area — ideal for creating a personalized retreat. The bathroom on this level includes a bathtub, shower, washbasin, and WC, catering to all daily needs with ease. The lower level comprises cellars spanning beneath the entire property, offering ample storage for belongings and additional functionality. Vencimont’s location offers a peaceful rural environment while remaining accessible to local amenities and natural attractions. The property’s position on a quiet street enhances privacy, making it particularly appealing for those seeking tranquility without sacrificing convenience. The surrounding landscape provides ample opportunities for outdoor activities, and the spacious garden with terrace invites residents to enjoy outdoor living at its finest. The house is available immediately upon signing the deed, making it an excellent opportunity for families or individuals looking to settle in this charming Belgian town. With its combination of modern features, energy-efficient installations, and scenic setting, this residence represents an outstanding investment in quality living. For those interested in exploring this remarkable property further, contacting us for a viewing is highly recommended to experience firsthand the unique blend of comfort and nature that Vencimont has to offer. Want to know more?
Vos Agences Condrogest Beauraing vous présente cette superbe maison entièrement rénovée avec goût, conjuguant le charme de l’ancien (charpentes apparentes) et les performances énergétiques modernes (PEB A). Baignée de lumière et offrant de beaux volumes, cette habitation se distingue par son confort et sa fonctionnalité. Elle dispose d’un spacieux garage de x m², d’un espace buanderie / rangement de x m² ainsi que d’une cour en gravier pratique et peu contraignante à entretenir. Les finitions sont soignées et le bien est prêt à accueillir ses nouveaux occupants. Ce bien polyvalent conviendra parfaitement à un premier achat (possibilité de bénéficier des droits d’enregistrement réduits à 3 % sous conditions), à une résidence secondaire (peu d’entretien, espace sécurisé pour motos, vélos, etc.) ou à un indépendant souhaitant exercer une activité au rez-de-chaussée, avec une cour extérieure adaptée au stockage de matériel, par exemple. Composition : - Rez-de-chaussée : buanderie, garage et cour extérieure ; - 1er étage : vaste living ouvert avec cuisine (non-fournie), WC indépendant et terrasse ; - 2e étage : hall de nuit, 3 chambres et salle de bain. Remarques : 9 panneaux photovoltaïques - PEB A - grand garage avec 2 portes sectionnelles motorisées - cuisine à installer par les acquéreurs, pour laisser libre cours à leur inspiration - précâblage pour l'ajout d'une borne électrique Expropriation Plan: No / Heritage List: No / Pending legal proceedings: No / Site of untapped activity: No Want to know more?
Discover this exceptional residence for sale in Rochefort, a charming town nestled in the heart of Belgium. Priced at €439,000, this property presents an incredible opportunity for those seeking a spacious and versatile home in a tranquil setting. This traditional 1946-built house combines classic architecture with modern amenities, offering a total living area of approximately 186 m². Situated on a generous plot of around 2,125 m², the property boasts four façades, oriented to the south, ensuring plenty of natural light throughout the day. The residence features three comfortable bedrooms measuring 18 m², 15 m², and 16 m² respectively, providing ample space for family members or guests. The interior layout includes a welcoming hall, a bright living room, and a well-sized kitchen of 21 m², perfect for family cooking and entertaining. The property also benefits from two bathrooms—one of 4 m²—along with a laundry room. Notable features include a pellet stove and a wood fireplace, double-glazed windows, and a certified electrical installation, ensuring both comfort and safety. The property’s exterior is equally impressive, with a south-facing terrace of 19 m² that invites outdoor gatherings and relaxation. The land includes a fenced garden, ideal for children or pets, and ample space for outdoor activities. Additionally, there are two well-maintained garages totaling 29 m² and two separate boxes that can serve various purposes such as storage or workshops. An existing barn-like space and a cellar of 20 m² provide further functional options. The residence has been thoughtfully equipped with modern comforts such as air conditioning and photovoltaic panels, enhancing energy efficiency. Its location in Rochefort offers the tranquility of a small town with convenient access to local amenities and outdoor pursuits. The property’s energy performance is rated D with a primary energy consumption of 324 kWh/m² per year, complemented by certification confirming compliance with electrical safety standards. This unique property is ideal for families or entrepreneurs looking for a versatile home with potential for various configurations—from private residence to professional space or studio. Given the extensive land and multiple outbuildings, there is scope for further customization or development. Rochefort itself provides a charming environment rich in history and natural beauty, making it an attractive place to settle. Interested buyers are encouraged to contact the agent at ### for further information or to arrange a viewing. Don’t miss this opportunity to acquire a spacious, character-filled property with numerous possibilities in the picturesque setting of Rochefort. Want to know more?
ERA B-LUX presents this spacious, bright house, ideally located in the peaceful village of Orgeo, in the commune of Bertrix. It benefits from a privileged location, within easy reach of Bertrix's amenities and the N89 motorway. You'll love its south-westerly aspect, its large plot of 15 ares 57 centiares, and its generous volumes offering a host of layout possibilities. Comprising: kitchen, lounge, dining room with bar area, separate toilet, 2 shower rooms, boiler room, 3 bedrooms, one of which is en suite, an attic that could easily be converted into several additional rooms (ideal for extending the living space or creating an office, games room or additional bedrooms), cellars, a lovely garden and an outbuilding with workshop areas and a garage. Sale subject to registration fees. The price indicated is subject to acceptance by the owner. Information provided for information only and is not contractually binding. Want to know more?
Easyhome is pleased to present this exceptional property, built on a plot of over 23 ares, ideally located in one of the most sought-after neighborhoods of the Condroz capital, Ciney. This recent construction (2013) will charm you with its refined architecture and high-quality materials. It offers a total surface area of 660 m², including 5 bedrooms, 3 bathrooms, a bright kitchen, and spacious living areas. In addition, there are several versatile rooms such as a large gym, two laundry rooms, and an office, providing all the comfort needed for daily life. The basement, currently fitted as a professional kitchen — which can be included in the sale subject to negotiation — will impress you with its significant development potential, capable of meeting a wide range of needs. A spacious garage completes the property. Enjoying a prime location, the property also benefits from excellent geographical accessibility: the nearby E411 and N4 allow easy access to Namur, Brussels, and Luxembourg. Ciney train station, just 5 minutes away, connects to almost the entire country. We are offering this exceptional property at a price of €1,095,000, subject to the owners’ acceptance. Want to know more?
Discover this charming residence for sale in Tenneville, an exceptional opportunity to acquire a property with great potential in a peaceful setting. Priced at €200,000, this home offers a fantastic base for renovation and customization. Located at Route de Mièrchamps 41, this property combines traditional charm with practical features, making it an appealing choice for those seeking a project or a family home in the serene landscape of Tenneville. This house features three bedrooms and one bathroom, situated on a generous plot of approximately 1,410 square meters. Built in 1918, the property is currently in need of renovation, providing a blank canvas for buyers to bring their vision to life. The building’s structure includes three façades and a west-facing front, offering ample natural light and a pleasant orientation. Inside, the layout comprises an entrance hall, a living room, dining area, kitchen, laundry room, and a terrace, with additional space in the basement for a double garage and storage. The property benefits from oil central heating and double-glazed windows with wooden and PVC frames, ensuring comfort and energy efficiency. The energy performance certificate indicates an EPC rating of "D," with an energy consumption of 282 kWh/m²/year, reflective of the current state of the home and its renovation potential. Tenneville is renowned for its tranquil environment, with the property situated on a large plot that includes a beautiful garden. The location offers easy access to local amenities and outdoor activities, with the property being outside flood-prone areas and featuring water connections. The house faces west, which enhances its appeal by allowing for lovely sunsets and outdoor enjoyment. The price is a negotiable basis, emphasizing flexibility for serious buyers. This residence presents an excellent opportunity to develop a personalized family home or investment property in a picturesque Belgian setting. For those interested in transforming this promising structure into their ideal home, further inquiries and visits are highly recommended to explore the full potential of this unique offering in Tenneville. Want to know more?
Discover a charming and practical bungalow nestled within the picturesque Sunclass Durbuy holiday park, a true gem for those seeking tranquility and natural beauty. Priced at €90,000, this delightful property is located in the beloved city of Durbuy, a renowned destination for its scenic landscapes and serene ambiance. The bungalow, with a total living area of 74 m², offers a cozy yet functional layout that perfectly balances comfort and utility. Constructed in 1970, this home has been thoughtfully maintained, featuring a warm and inviting interior that includes three bedrooms and a well-appointed bathroom with a shower. The property is fully furnished, ensuring immediate comfort for new owners or tenants alike. The Living area seamlessly connects to a dining space and a kitchenette, providing an ideal setting for relaxed gatherings or family meals. Heating is supplied via gas, offering efficient warmth during the cooler months, and the property benefits from a certificate of conformity for its electrical installation, confirming compliance with safety standards. Beyond the interiors, the bungalow boasts an attractive south-facing orientation, maximizing sunlight exposure and creating a bright, welcoming atmosphere. Outside, you will enjoy a renovated terrace (renovated in 2022) that offers a perfect spot for outdoor leisure, barbecues, or simply enjoying the view of the surrounding nature. The outdoor space connects harmoniously with the lush environment of the park, allowing residents to relax and unwind amidst the natural beauty of Durbuy. The property’s external features include four façades and two levels, with water and gas connections readily available, ensuring convenience and ease of maintenance. Located within a well-maintained holiday park, this bungalow provides a unique opportunity for both investment and personal use, whether as a holiday retreat or a permanent residence in one of Belgium’s most enchanting areas. Durbuy is famed for its idyllic setting and access to outdoor activities, making it an attractive location for nature lovers and those seeking peace away from urban hustle. The park’s tranquil environment combined with the property’s practical layout makes it an appealing choice for individuals or families looking to embrace a lifestyle close to nature while enjoying modern comforts. With the added advantage of being situated in an established holiday community, this bungalow offers significant potential for rental income or personal enjoyment. For interested buyers or investors, this property presents an excellent opportunity to acquire a charming home in Durbuy at an accessible price point. To learn more or arrange a viewing, please contact us today to explore this inviting property further and take the first step toward owning your own piece of Belgium’s scenic countryside. Want to know more?
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