Discover this charming and fully renovated apartment available for rent in the peaceful neighborhood of Loverval. Situated on the 4th floor of a well-managed building, accessible via an elevator that stops at the third floor, this property offers comfort, convenience, and practicality. The apartment features a spacious living room with a fully equipped kitchen, making it ideal for modern living. It includes a comfortable bedroom, a bathroom, and a pantry/laundry area, providing a functional layout designed to meet the needs of contemporary tenants. Additionally, residents benefit from a private cellar, perfect for additional storage, as well as a dedicated garage space, ensuring secure parking. The total living area encompasses approximately 55 square meters, with high-quality double-glazed windows offering good insulation, while the gas heating system guarantees reliable warmth during colder months. The financial details of this rental are straightforward: the monthly rent amounts to €635, with an additional provision of €140 for charges that cover heating, elevator maintenance, and general property upkeep. These charges are estimated and are subject to an annual true expense adjustment based on actual consumption and costs. Each utility—water, electricity, and gas—has its own meters, allowing for accurate billing based on individual usage. This apartment is suited exclusively for tenants who can demonstrate seriousness and solvency; pets are not permitted, ensuring quiet enjoyment for all residents. The leasing arrangement is structured with a 9-year lease (with 3-6-9 renewal options) signed through authentic notarized documentation, including a detailed move-in report. A security deposit equivalent to two months’ rent (€1,270) is required, offering peace of mind for the landlord and ensuring commitment from the tenant. Located in Loverval, this property offers a serene environment while remaining accessible to local amenities and services. The building benefits from the presence of an external concierge service during weekdays, adding an extra layer of security and convenience. The apartment’s strategic position makes it an attractive option for professionals or individuals seeking a tranquil yet well-connected residence. For those interested in viewing or obtaining further information, it is recommended to contact via email at ### or by phone at ### Seize this opportunity to live in a comfortable, fully renovated apartment that combines practicality with peaceful surroundings. Contact now to arrange a visit and secure this delightful home in Loverval. Want to know more?
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On the Chaussée d'Ixelles, a stunning apartment in perfect condition, with a total surface area of approximately 136 m², in a beautiful period building. It comprises an entrance hall with a utility room and a WC, a spacious and bright living room (approximately 35.75 m²) opening onto a fully equipped American-style kitchen (SMEG) with a central island, a large bedroom (approximately 32.75 m²), and a bathroom with a shower. A balcony is located at the front. A cellar is included, and a parking space in the building can be rented for an additional €100/month. Features include a secure door, high ceilings (4.60 m), and elegant moldings. Monthly charges: €160 (provision for the maintenance of common areas). Energy Performance Certificate (EPC) rating: C. Don't miss this opportunity! Want to know more?
Opposite the Boitsfort Hippodrome and near Avenue Franklin Roosevelt, this superb modern apartment offers approximately 141 m² of living space in a beautiful building constructed in 2005. It comprises a spacious entrance hall (approximately 10.25 m²) with a guest WC, a large and bright living room (approximately 44.75 m²), a fully equipped kitchen (approximately 9.65 m²), a hallway, two attractive bedrooms (approximately 17.35 m² and 13.90 m²), an en-suite bathroom for the master bedroom, a separate shower room, and a second guest WC. A lovely south-facing terrace (approximately 16.75 m²) is accessible from the living room, and a large balcony (approximately 3 m²) is accessible from the second bedroom. Cellar included and an indoor parking space with an electric charging station available for an additional €100/month on the second basement level of the building. The apartment boasts high-quality finishes, double-glazed windows, and parquet flooring. Monthly charges: €125 (provision for the maintenance of common areas). Energy Performance Certificate (EPC) rating: C-. Don't miss out, contact Vaneau Lecobel today! Want to know more?
Opposite the Boitsfort Hippodrome and near Avenue Franklin Roosevelt, this superb modern apartment offers approximately 141 m² of living space in a beautiful building constructed in 2005. It comprises a spacious entrance hall (approximately 10.25 m²) with a guest WC, a large and bright living room (approximately 44.75 m²), a fully equipped kitchen (approximately 9.65 m²), a hallway, two attractive bedrooms (approximately 17.35 m² and 13.90 m²), an en-suite bathroom for the master bedroom, a separate shower room, and a second guest WC. A lovely south-facing terrace (approximately 16.75 m²) is accessible from the living room, and a large balcony (approximately 3 m²) is accessible from the second bedroom. Cellar included and an indoor parking space with an electric charging station available for an additional €100/month on the second basement level of the building. The apartment boasts high-quality finishes, double-glazed windows, and parquet flooring. Monthly charges: €125 (provision for the maintenance of common areas). Energy Performance Certificate (EPC) rating: C-. Don't miss out, contact Vaneau Lecobel today! Want to know more?
Opposite the Boitsfort Hippodrome and near Avenue Franklin Roosevelt, this superb modern apartment offers approximately 141 m² of living space in a beautiful building constructed in 2005. It comprises a spacious entrance hall (approximately 10.25 m²) with a guest WC, a large and bright living room (approximately 44.75 m²), a fully equipped kitchen (approximately 9.65 m²), a hallway, two attractive bedrooms (approximately 17.35 m² and 13.90 m²), an en-suite bathroom for the master bedroom, a separate shower room, and a second guest WC. A lovely south-facing terrace (approximately 16.75 m²) is accessible from the living room, and a large balcony (approximately 3 m²) is accessible from the second bedroom. Cellar included and an indoor parking space with an electric charging station available for an additional €100/month on the second basement level of the building. The apartment boasts high-quality finishes, double-glazed windows, and parquet flooring. Monthly charges: €125 (provision for the maintenance of common areas). Energy Performance Certificate (EPC) rating: C-. Don't miss out, contact Vaneau Lecobel today! Want to know more?
This charming apartment for rent in Fleurus offers an excellent opportunity for comfortable city living within a secure, modern building. Located at 144 Chaussée de Charleroi, this property is situated in the heart of Fleurus, providing easy access to all local amenities and services. The building itself is recent, emphasizing contemporary construction standards and security, making it an ideal choice for tenants seeking peace of mind and convenience. The residence is positioned on the third floor, accessible via an elevator, and features a thoughtfully designed layout that maximizes space and functionality. The apartment spans approximately 72 square meters of living area, providing ample room for everyday living in a well-planned environment. This apartment comprises two bedrooms, a dedicated office or dressing area, a bright living room with an equipped kitchenette, a modern shower room, a separate toilet, and a private cellar. The kitchen is fully fitted with essential appliances such as a stove, hood, oven, refrigerator, and a designated space for a dishwasher, facilitating modern, hassle-free cooking and meal preparation. The heating system runs on gas central heating, ensuring warmth during the colder months, while monthly charges of 90 € cover the maintenance of common areas and utilities. Water, gas, and electricity are metered individually, giving tenants control over their consumption. The property benefits from double-glazed windows with two facades, enhancing insulation and energy efficiency. Located in the vibrant city of Fleurus, this apartment benefits from excellent connectivity and local services, making it an ideal choice for professionals or small families seeking a comfortable, low-maintenance home. The proximity to key amenities ensures that daily needs are easily met without long commutes. The property is available from May 1, 2026, offering attractive leasing terms at a rental price of €800 per month. With an energy performance of class E and an energy consumption of 408 kWh/m² per year, this residence combines modern comfort with reasonable energy efficiency. Interested tenants are encouraged to contact us for further information or to schedule a viewing of this appealing property in Fleurus. Want to know more?
Between the Châtelain district and Place Brugmann, a superb apartment with a total surface area of approximately 86 m² on the top floor of a beautiful, high-end building. It comprises an entrance hall, a lovely living/dining room (approximately 35 m²), a fully equipped open-plan kitchen, a hallway, two attractive bedrooms (approximately 12 m² and 10 m²), a bathroom, a shower room, and a laundry area. High-quality finishes, ample storage, new insulation, double glazing, and a dual-flow ventilation system. Monthly charges: €80 (provision for the maintenance of common areas). Energy Performance Certificate (EPC) rating: C-. Don't miss this opportunity! Want to know more?
Discover this spacious and well-located apartment for rent in the heart of Charleroi, a city renowned for its vibrant urban atmosphere and excellent connectivity. Situated at rue de la Science 4, this property offers a comfortable living space with a total habitable area of approximately 80 square meters, perfectly suited for individuals or families seeking proximity to essential amenities and public transport. The apartment is positioned on the second floor of a secure building equipped with an elevator, providing easy access and added convenience. Its strategic location ensures quick access to the train station, local shops, schools, and various other services, making daily life effortless and enjoyable. This apartment boasts an intelligently designed layout that maximizes natural light and comfort. Upon entering through a secure door, residents are greeted by a welcoming entrance hall leading into a luminous living room spanning approximately 35 square meters. The living space is bright and airy, ideal for relaxing or entertaining guests. The modern kitchen is fully equipped with a stove, hood, refrigerator, and oven, seamlessly integrated with the living area to promote an open-concept ambiance. The property features two bedrooms of 10 and 13 square meters respectively, providing ample space for rest or work from home. A separate toilet and a bathroom complete the interior layout. The apartment also includes a private cellar in the basement for storage and a dedicated parking spot outside, ensuring convenience for residents with vehicles. Recent updates include new PVC double-glazed windows, contributing to energy efficiency and sound insulation. The property is equipped with central heating, and the building benefits from recent energy performance improvements, with an EPC rating of C (reference number 20200108015678). The monthly rent is set at €800, exclusive of charges. An additional monthly provision of €180 covers communal expenses such as elevator maintenance, electricity, cleaning of common areas, and other shared services. Utilities like water and electricity are billed separately through individual meters, offering clarity and control over consumption. Available immediately, this apartment presents an excellent rental opportunity in Charleroi for those looking to enjoy a central location with modern amenities. For further information or to arrange a viewing, contact us today to experience this attractive property firsthand. Want to know more?
Discover this charming apartment available for rent in the vibrant city of Antwerp, located specifically at Gloriantlaan 34 in the sought-after district of Antwerp (zip code 2050). Priced at €1,000 per month, this well-appointed property offers an ideal living space for those seeking comfort and convenience in one of Belgium’s most dynamic cities. The apartment is situated on the third and top floor of a small, low-rise building, accessible via a lift, making it suitable for residents who appreciate ease of mobility. Built in 1967 and recently renovated in 2017, this residence seamlessly combines modern updates with classic architectural features. The apartment encompasses approximately 80 square meters of living space, thoughtfully designed to optimize light and space. It features a bright living room with a tiled floor spanning about 47 m², which provides a welcoming area for relaxation and entertaining. The open-plan kitchen adjoins the living space, fully equipped with high-quality appliances including an oven, cooktop, dishwasher, extractor fan, refrigerator, freezer, and a double sink—an ideal setup for culinary enthusiasts. The property boasts two bedrooms measuring approximately 17.5 m² and 10.5 m² respectively; the larger bedroom includes an integrated dressing area, offering ample storage and organization options. The bathroom is equipped with an in-loop shower, a stylish lavaboomel, and a toilet, all finished with premium materials to ensure durability and aesthetic appeal. This property also offers several attractive features that enhance daily comfort. Notably, air conditioning is installed, adding to the pleasant indoor climate during warmer months. Additional conveniences include a cellar storage unit and energy-efficient features reflected in its EPC value of 209 kWh/m² per annum. The monthly charges amount to €200 and cover water, heating via gas, condominium management (syndicus), elevator maintenance, and general building upkeep—providing a hassle-free living experience. Whether you are seeking a convenient city-center residence or an investment opportunity, this apartment’s central location ensures access to Antwerp’s numerous amenities, transport links, shopping districts, and cultural sites. This apartment at Gloriantlaan 34 offers immediate availability for tenants ready to move in without delay. With its strategic positioning in Antwerp’s lively environment and a combination of modern comforts and spacious interiors, it represents an excellent choice for professionals, couples, or small families looking for quality rental accommodation in Belgium’s second-largest city. For those interested in viewing or requesting additional information, we invite you to contact us to arrange a visit and explore all that this attractive property has to offer. Want to know more?
Discover this charming apartment for rent in the vibrant city of Antwerp, offering a perfect combination of comfort and authentic character. Situated on the second floor of a well-maintained building, this spacious and light-filled residence provides an ideal living space in a central yet tranquil location. The apartment boasts a total living area of approximately 90 m², featuring two bedrooms, a bathroom, and a cozy living and dining area that benefits from natural sunlight. The original 1940s fireplace adds a touch of historic charm, creating a warm and inviting ambiance. The kitchen is equipped with modern appliances, including a dishwasher, fridge, freezer, new electric stove, oven, and hood, with convenient connections for a washing machine. A small balcony at the rear offers outdoor space to enjoy during pleasant weather. The layout includes an entrance hall with built-in wardrobe storage, two bedrooms measuring 8 m² and 14 m² respectively—one at the front and the other at the back of the apartment—providing flexible living or working options. The bathroom features a combined bathtub and shower with a shower screen, complemented by a separate toilet for added convenience. Additional features include a cellar storage space and a modest terrace of 3 m², providing outdoor access without extensive maintenance. Monthly charges of €70 cover maintenance of common areas and water consumption, with gas and electricity metered separately for transparency and control. Available from May 16th, 2026, this property offers an excellent opportunity to enjoy city living in a lively part of Antwerp. Located at Jodenstraat 12 B 2V in the 2000 postal code area, this apartment benefits from being in a dynamic neighborhood close to Antwerp’s iconic streets such as Huidevettersstraat. Residents will enjoy easy access to shopping, dining, cultural attractions, and public transportation options within walking distance. Whether you're seeking a comfortable city residence or an investment opportunity, this apartment ticks many boxes. With a competitive rental price of €950 per month, including charges for water and common maintenance, it represents an attractive proposition for discerning tenants. To learn more or schedule a viewing, contact your real estate professional today and take the next step toward making this charming Antwerp apartment your new home. Want to know more?
Discover this stylish and modern furnished one-bedroom apartment located in the vibrant district of 't Zuid in Antwerp. Perfectly suited for those seeking a contemporary urban lifestyle, this property offers a comfortable and elegant living space within a newly constructed building. Situated on the third floor, the apartment benefits from abundant natural light thanks to large windows that seamlessly connect the living area to a 4 m² terrace, ideal for relaxing or entertaining guests. The interior features a sleek open-plan kitchen equipped with modern appliances including a combination oven, refrigerator, cooktop, hood, and dishwasher. The luminous living room, complemented by high-quality flooring, creates a welcoming atmosphere. The apartment’s furnishings are contemporary and tasteful, adding to its overall appeal. The sleeping area comprises a spacious bedroom fitted with a double bed and a large dressing area, providing ample storage space. Adjacent to the bedroom is a modern bathroom with a shower and sink, designed for comfort and convenience. Additional features include a storage room with a washing machine, a separate toilet, and the inclusion of energy-efficient elements such as underfloor heating, two solar panels, and ventilation system D. These upgrades contribute to an excellent EPC score of A (98 kWh/m² per year), ensuring low energy consumption and reduced utility costs. The apartment is further enhanced by features like high-quality parquet flooring throughout the living and sleeping areas, creating a warm and luxurious ambiance. Located in Antwerp’s bustling 't Zuid neighborhood, this property provides exceptional access to amenities such as shops, schools, public transportation, parking facilities, trendy restaurants, and cozy cafés—all within walking distance. The recent development of the Zuidpark nearby offers a peaceful green space for outdoor activities and relaxation. The building also includes practical communal facilities such as a bicycle storage area and a cellar. With an all-inclusive monthly rent of €1,150—including all utilities measured separately—this apartment is ready for immediate occupancy and is particularly suitable for expats or professionals seeking a turnkey solution in one of Antwerp’s most sought-after locations. Contact us today to arrange a viewing or to learn more about this exceptional rental opportunity. Want to know more?
Maxime Real Estate presents this beautiful 2-bedroom apartment with garden and terrace. Excellent location between the town hall and the Parc Georges Henri, within walking distance of public transport, shops, schools, the Poseidon Sports Complex, and major access roads. This fully renovated apartment of +/-97 m² (according to energy certificate) is composed as follows: Entrance hall with cloakroom and separate toilet, bright living-dining room of approximately 31 m² with access to a SOUTH-facing garden and adjoining terrace, fully equipped open kitchen, night hall, two beautiful bedrooms of approximately 14 m² and 10 m², bathroom with walk-in shower and double washbasin, laundry room, and private cellar. Additional information: double glazing, reinforced security door, gas heating, service charges provision of €60/month (common areas, water), immediately available. Would you like more information or to schedule a visit? Contact Maxime Real Estate at ### or ### The information and surface areas provided are purely indicative and non-contractual. Want to know more?
Discover this charming apartment available for rent in Izegem, offering an excellent combination of modern comfort and convenient location. Situated on the second floor of a quiet residential building, this property features a well-designed layout and a range of appealing amenities that make it an ideal choice for tenants seeking comfort and functionality. The apartment is accessible via a lift, providing easy access to the living space, which includes a spacious living room and a modern kitchen. One of the highlights is the large terrace connected to the kitchen, perfect for outdoor relaxation or entertaining guests. Additionally, there is a storage/utility room, a separate toilet, and a bathroom, all designed with practicality in mind. The property also boasts a dressing area that leads to another sizable terrace, offering additional outdoor space. The apartment comprises one bedroom, making it suitable for singles, couples, or small families. The building offers practical features such as a communal bicycle storage area and an underground, secured parking space, enhancing everyday convenience and security for residents. The apartment benefits from a high energy efficiency rating, with a primary energy consumption of 76 kWh/m²/year, supported by an EPC certification. The property is currently vacant and will be available from July 1, 2026, providing ample time for tenants to plan their move. The rental price is €750 per month, with additional charges of €55 per month covering common costs. This transparent pricing structure ensures clarity for prospective tenants seeking a well-maintained and modern residence in Izegem. The location in Izegem offers a peaceful environment while remaining accessible to local amenities, transportation options, and services essential for daily life. Whether you are looking for a comfortable home with outdoor spaces or a convenient base close to the city’s facilities, this apartment ticks many boxes. To explore this opportunity further or to schedule a viewing, interested parties are encouraged to contact us through the designated contact form. Our team will respond promptly once visits are scheduled, ensuring a smooth and professional rental process. Don’t miss the chance to make this attractive apartment your new home in Izegem. Want to know more?
📌 Viewing requests can ONLY be made via the online link on our website: ### Urban Concept presents this bright 1-bedroom duplex in very good condition. Ideally located near the center of Walhain, Gembloux, and all amenities (shops, public transport, main roads (N4 - E411), schools, green spaces, UCLouvain). Situated on the 1st floor of a small, quiet residence, the apartment is laid out as follows: a spacious entrance hall (common area), a large living/dining room (32 sqm), and a modern, fully equipped open-plan kitchen. Upstairs, you will find a generously sized bedroom with built-in storage and a renovated shower room with toilet. Technical features: EPC rating “D”, compliant electrical installation, wooden double-glazed windows, collective oil-fired central heating. Charges: €100/month (flat rate) including heating, cold and hot water. Lease term: 3 years. Move-in inspection carried out by an expert with shared costs. Rental guarantee: 2 months (€1,460). This description is provided for information purposes only and is non-contractual, subject to errors and/or omissions. 📌 Viewing requests can ONLY be made via the online link on our website: ### Want to know more?
SCHAERBEEK (MEISER/CHAZAL neighborhood) -- Excellent location on a very quiet residential street between the Meiser and Chazal tram stations, close to Josaphat Park, shops, and all amenities. EXPERTISSIMMO presents a superb renovated 3-bedroom apartment of +/- 143m2 located on the 6th floor of a beautiful luxury building. It is composed as follows: Entrance hall with separate toilet - Bright and spacious 44m² living room - Beautiful new fully equipped kitchen (hob, extractor hood, oven, refrigerator, freezer, dishwasher, microwave and washing machine space - Hallway with numerous built-in cupboards - Bathroom with second toilet - 2 large bedrooms of +/- 14m2 each with access to the rear terrace - Third bedroom adjoining the living room of +/- 13m2 with beautiful new shower room and access to the front balcony - Private cellar and parking space in the basement. Apartment in excellent condition, first occupancy after renovation! Available immediately. Energy performance rating: C. Rent: €1,750 + €250 provision for charges (heating, hot water and communal areas). Possibility of renting indoor parking for 150€. DON'T DELAY, COME AND VIEW IT TODAY! VIRTUAL TOUR LINK: ### Want to know more?
Studio à louer disponible immédiatement Charmant studio en duplex situé rue de Grivegnée, à Grivegnée, à seulement 10 minutes du centre-ville de Liège. Idéalement situé, le logement bénéficie d’un accès facile aux transports en commun (arrêts de bus à proximité) et se trouve proche de toutes les commodités : supermarchés, restaurants, pharmacie et hôpital. Le studio, d’une superficie de 40 m², est réparti sur deux niveaux : • Rez-de-chaussée : grande pièce de vie lumineuse comprenant une cuisine équipée, une machine à laver, une table haute, un coin salon et un espace nuit avec lit. • Sous-sol (-1) : espace comprenant la salle de bain et les toilettes. Le loyer comprend : • Accès WIFI • Électricité (chauffage électrique) • Eau • Charges locatives Disponible immédiatement ! Idéal pour une personne seule, un étudiant ou un professionnel en déplacement.. Infos, candidature locative ### Want to know more?
J&J Properties offers you this beautiful 91 m² apartment (PEB value) with terraces. The apartment is composed as follows: an entrance hall, a living/dining room with a fully equipped open kitchen and access to the terrace, an 18 m² bedroom with terrace, a second 12 m² bedroom, a bathroom, a separate toilet, and a laundry room with connection for a washing machine. A parking space completes the property (mandatory, +100€/month) The charges amount to 150€/month and include common charges, heating, and hot water. From a technical point of view: double glazing, cellar, bicycle storage room, and garbage room. The brightness and the terraces are the major assets of this apartment. A must-see without delay! For more information: ### REF J&J: 7637780 Want to know more?
Experience comfortable urban living in this centrally located duplex apartment in Deinze, offering a perfect blend of convenience and modern amenities. Priced at €820 per month, this well-appointed residence provides an attractive opportunity for tenants seeking a spacious and functional home. The property is situated at Toekomststraat 34, in the vibrant city of Deinze, with easy access to local amenities including schools, shops, and the station, making daily commutes and errands remarkably straightforward. Its strategic location ensures a lifestyle centered around accessibility and community, ideal for those who value connectivity and a lively neighborhood environment. This duplex spans a generous 102 square meters of living space, thoughtfully designed to accommodate comfort and practicality. It features two bedrooms, providing ample space for residents or families, alongside a modern bathroom that meets everyday needs efficiently. The apartment includes one indoor parking space, a valuable feature in urban settings, and a private terrace that extends living outdoors, perfect for relaxing or entertaining guests. While it is not classified as a low-energy home, the property maintains a reasonable energy footprint with a specific primary energy consumption of 243 kWh/m² per year. Although equipped with standard heating, it does not include air conditioning or an electric charging station, but these aspects can be considered based on individual preferences. Located in the heart of Deinze, this residence offers more than just a home; it provides a lifestyle of convenience and accessibility. The proximity to essential services and transportation links makes this property particularly appealing for professionals, couples, or small families seeking a comfortable living space within reach of the city’s key points. The rental terms include a security deposit of €2,460 and maintenance costs of only €1 per month, making it an economical choice for tenants. Interested parties are encouraged to contact us for further details or to schedule a viewing, as this opportunity combines practicality with comfort in one of Deinze’s most desirable areas. Want to know more?
In a new-build (2026) meeting the latest energy and comfort standards, a superb luxury studio on the first floor, just a stone’s throw from the Woluwe Shopping Centre and public transport. It comprises: - Entrance hall of approx. 2.4 m² (parquet flooring) - Separate toilet with washbasin (tiled) - Living area of approx. 31.5 m² - Fully fitted open-plan kitchen of approx. 3.5 m² (ceramic hob, extractor hood, oven, fridge, small freezer and dishwasher) (tiled) - Shower room - Utility room of approx. 1.65 m² - Cellar of approx. 2.3 m² (no. 24) - Bicycle storage Additional information - 1st floor (out of 4) with lift - Monthly service charge of €60 (communal areas) - Energy performance rating: A - Available immediately - Triple glazing - Powder-coated aluminium window frames - Individual gas boiler - Central thermostat - Mechanical ventilation system - Rails fitted - Light fittings fitted Want to know more?
Location: Ideally located in the center of Grobbendonk with all amenities within walking distance. Layout: The apartment is divided with a spacious living room and open kitchen, separate toilet, storage room, 2 bedrooms, bathroom and terrace. Underground garage and spacious basement storage available Description: This apartment is located on the second floor. The kitchen is fully equipped with oven, ceramic hob and refrigerator, At the back there is a terrace. Elevator available. Underground garage and spacious basement storage available. EPC: 96 kWh/m² Fixed costs: €50/month available from: 01/07/2026 Want to know more?